Us to build a port to deliver aid into Gaza

[EasterIssland]

I know this has been spoken in a few threads.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/07/biden-us-port-gaza-aid-delivery

Probably Gazans will be greatful for it. But if Biden stopped sending money and weapons they’d probably appreciate even more the aid that Biden is aiming to deliver

That's great news! Now, when are they going to stop supplying weapons to Israel? It's so two-faced, giving out aid in one hand, while dropping bombs with the other.

I've just come across this post on Instagram about the port and what they think it is really about.

www.instagram.com/p/C4O8K1OLBDq/?igsh=aHh3OXY0amZ0bzF2

Exactly!

Yes I’ve read this I’m hoping that they have said it’d be temporal so not long term getting the oil. Also , why is USA allowed to do this in some waters that don’t belong to them?

It's a hard one. I have a few conflicting feelings about it.

On one hand, if a port can be built to create a new safer route for aid, that could save a lot of lives. If there could then be agreements as part of a peace process for longer term maritime routes in and out of Gaza, that could be useful for rebuilding and creating new options for people living there to seek employment and access the wider world (despite having a coastline, the waters are tightly controlled by the Israeli government and there is no option for people to enter or leave that way or to use more than a very small strip of water for fishing etc) - in the longer term, access to other countries reachable by that route while maintaining a right to go back to Gaza could be a real game-changer for (for example) people in need of healthcare services not available in Gaza.

On the other hand... I understand that plans for ports and accessing oil and other resources in Gaza and via routes through Gaza were previously discussed by the Israeli government and with the US. And 'boots on the ground' can be a slippery slope, as we've seen - I could easily imagine a progression of "our soldiers are safeguarding the construction of this... now our soldiers are safeguarding the installation of this... now they're safeguarding the use of the port... now they're safeguarding the surrounding area too... and now they're safeguarding routes from the border to the port...". Trust in the US government is pretty low, and for good reason when you consider their track record in the Middle East.

So, I don't know. I hope it works. I really hope it does, and that if it has a role in 'the day after', that role is for the benefit of the innocent people rather than a hawkish and expansionist government.

It's a tricky one isn't. But as with all leaders, there are always hidden agendas disguised as good.

@EasterIssland I'm not really sure tbh.

another poster posted this in another thread

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/07/gaza-floating-port-aid-palestinians-impact

I'm exasperated at this; the aid agencies were warning people about starvation from December onwards. The USA have Bern far too generous towards Netanhayu in terms of time to sort out aid.

However...if this is done in lockstep with more aid trucks right now and a new distribution system so it gets to the starving and not just the clan fighters/hamas, it could work. Gaza will need an immense amount of aid and rebuilding, so a functioning deepwater port would be useful, both now and in the future.

The strongest, fittest men will grab the aid and sell on. Meanwhile some will continue to starve. They do t appear to share it out evenly just grab selfishly then show pictures of children starving. Can't trust them to share.

Anyone who was in Lebanon in 1983 will tell you what a bad idea this is. It's just another way for America to get sucked in to Israel's war and inherit Israel's mess.

When Russia stop arming Israel's enemies perhaps.

I've seen on social media that a group of masked Palestinian men have taken it upon themselves to police the selling of food products. I'm not sure whether they are the food from aid packages or if they are food that they have in shops already. But what's happening is vendors/people are selling goods at a very inflated price and people cannot afford them. So the masked men are trying to ensure they are sold at normal prices and if it isn't the goods are seized and sold at the normal rate.

Biden says Israel will secure new Gaza pier; Pentagon: It may take 2 months to build

https://www.timesofisrael.com/biden-says-israel-will-secure-new-gaza-pier-pentagon-it-may-take-2-months-to-build/amp/

what could go wrong

It will be about oil as a payoff but if there is a plus side it is that at least Biden isn't Trump and alongside Bannon/Russia/IDF and ERG.
What a mess. Why do men do this to us all?

The strongest, fittest men will grab the aid and sell on. Meanwhile some will continue to starve. They do t appear to share it out evenly just grab selfishly then show pictures of children starving. Can't trust them to share.

What the hell are you talking about? What is wrong with you?

The username of the person that has written it might give a clue

No government delivers aid without further gain for themselves.

They are called the Peoples Protection Force - they are both masked and armed and have been filmed patrolling the market in Rafah. It's not at all clear who they are - whether Hamas, a remnant of the Gazan police or local vigilantes

Food in the market is both black market stolen aid and legitimate commercially sourced food

Food inflation is currently running at 118% in Gaza - a pack of babies nappies costs $75-80 - the high inflation and stolen food are both indicators of insufficient food reaching Gaza

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68526503

What are the IDF going to do about this though? Not kill US soldiers? I think this is going to end up with the US army retaliating after they are bombed by a force that seems to have very little restraint.

Almost sounds like you want that to happen.

I'm relieved that aid will reach people I wonder if hamas will allow it to happen as it's the US doing it. What a dilemma, allow your people not to die by allowing your enemy to help them.

Are Russia helping? They seem very keen to be involved in other ways.

Is the port going to be built at the end of the road the Israel is building? www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68514821

IDK the plan is to build the temporary port at Rimal near Port Gaza [already destroyed by IDF some years ago] as the vessels using it need the deep water and most of Gaza's coastline is flat sandy beaches

Honestly, the US needs to stop this nonsense and just tell Israel that they have to let aid in. It's absolutely ridiculous a government starving innocent people to death and Biden pussy footing around like a fool. Its really simple. If there isn't enough food and medicine for all civillians in a week no more money, no more arms and no more trade. The rest of the world then needs to back this up. Swift, harsh sanctions that send a message to any other country that might try to call starving a civillian population self defence.