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People of Rochdale concerned about the NHS, education, policing and cost of living......

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mids2019 · 01/03/2024 06:23

However their new MP says this for Gaza'.

How can our politics becomes so skewed that voters are not thinking about the multiple issues on the domestic front which effect their daily lives where an MP can have direct influence?

Our MPs represent our people to advocate for them on areas where they are in a position to influence. To elect an MP based on a single foreign policy issue where there was limited UK influence just seems like a wasted vote.

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Misthios · 01/03/2024 12:57

The only thing George Galloway concentrates on is George Galloway. He doesn't give two hoots about representing that particular constituency and dealing with mundane stuff like NHS or education.

Februaryfeels · 01/03/2024 13:12

I'm actually questioning what is more disgusting

Voting for Galloway, friend of very dodgy "leaders" and contrarian

Or

Thinking because he "calls for a ceasefire" makes him some sort of morally superior warrior

Fucks sake

ginasevern · 01/03/2024 13:20

Perhaps once Galloway has valiantly sorted out a ceasefire Gaza, he'd like to tackle women's rights there. Under Hamas the lack of women's rights are some of the worst in the whole of the Middle East. Nobody's talking about that though are they.

Baileyscream · 01/03/2024 13:37

I think it's embarrassing for Rochdale and for UK politics. Galloway isn't some moral symbol. He just wants to be an MP snd will jump on any band wagon to get there.

Now the crown has finished Netflix could dramatise Rochdale's history. There is a enough material for a good few seasons. They should ofcourse include the Co-op movement and Rochdale's involvement in anti-slavery too (we do have some history to be proud of).

Scirocco · 01/03/2024 14:02

Humdingerydoo · 01/03/2024 12:42

"I will not vote for someone whose presence in Parliament will make my family and my DC's generation less safe."

That's fine, but Galloway is someone who will make Jewish families and our children's generation of Jews even less safe than they already are. I know Jews aren't your personal responsibility, but I can honestly say that I would never vote for an Islamophobic rape apologist. The idea, therefore, of people actively voting in an antisemitic rape apologist is a completely outrageous one to me.

You can't fight Islamophobia by actively increasing and encouraging antisemitism.

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And I wouldn't have voted for Galloway either. Never said I would have.

I also wouldn't vote for a candidate who I considered to be anti-semitic. That doesn't make my family or my DC's generation safer either.

My family is mixed race, multi-cultural and multi-faith. I'm guessing your children and mine are probably the same generation. We don't make their generation any safer by voting in people who support hate of any form.

qunari · 01/03/2024 14:08

Scirocco · 01/03/2024 12:29

And that's fine for it to be low down your list of priorities, but it's not low down for some other people.

For me, it ranks pretty highly.

A person's position on the conflict and humanitarian crisis tells me a lot about that person's values.

A person's position on Islamophobia tells me a lot about whether they're likely to try to make this country safer for my family and my DC's generation.

I will not vote for someone who supports or passively condones the deaths of my friends and colleagues. I will not vote for someone whose presence in Parliament will make my family and my DC's generation less safe.

Different people care about different things. I know someone for whom fox-hunting was the major deciding factor for their vote in a by-election. What we're seeing here suggests that a not-insignificant number of voters do want to see a change in position on the conflict and humanitarian crisis, as well as a feeling that local issues are ignored by the major parties in Westminster (look at how well the independent candidate did).

The seat will most likely go Labour again in the GE.

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If a person votes for someone who likes to kiss the arse of Putin, what does that say about their values?

Scirocco · 01/03/2024 14:09

qunari · 01/03/2024 14:08

If a person votes for someone who likes to kiss the arse of Putin, what does that say about their values?

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Quite a bit.

Scirocco · 01/03/2024 14:18

Also says a lot when a person enjoys snuggling up to the Putins and Assads of the world.

Galloway is bound to know this is a protest vote. And it doesn't hold much weight at the moment. The real question is how the major parties can adjust their own approaches to re-connect with large chunks of the electorate. A significant group of people voted for the independent candidate, and those people's choices could be crucial in marginal seats.

Humdingerydoo · 01/03/2024 14:58

Scirocco · 01/03/2024 14:02

And I wouldn't have voted for Galloway either. Never said I would have.

I also wouldn't vote for a candidate who I considered to be anti-semitic. That doesn't make my family or my DC's generation safer either.

My family is mixed race, multi-cultural and multi-faith. I'm guessing your children and mine are probably the same generation. We don't make their generation any safer by voting in people who support hate of any form.

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I agree with you about no one being any safer when people like Galloway get voted in. Which is why I don't understand why he is getting so much love from people online.

I really never meant to imply that you're a fan of his, by the way. I'm sorry if you felt that's what I was saying.

Not only are our children most likely the same generation, my family is also a big mix of cultures and religions. It's almost like we have more in common than we have differences... 😊

Soreteatowel · 01/03/2024 15:00

Voters in Rochdale didn't really have a choice. They were a hardly going to address those issues by voting Tory. They probably would have voted in the antisemitic Labour candidate...

Humdingerydoo · 01/03/2024 15:07

Soreteatowel · 01/03/2024 15:00

Voters in Rochdale didn't really have a choice. They were a hardly going to address those issues by voting Tory. They probably would have voted in the antisemitic Labour candidate...

Even the other antisemite would have been preferable as at least he wasn't running on a purely anti-Israel platform. At least the other antisemite also cares about other things that actually affect his constituency.

I mean, they're both awful options and I wouldn't have voted for either one of them. But if I had to choose one, it wouldn't have been Galloway.

Soreteatowel · 01/03/2024 15:09

Humdingerydoo · 01/03/2024 15:07

Even the other antisemite would have been preferable as at least he wasn't running on a purely anti-Israel platform. At least the other antisemite also cares about other things that actually affect his constituency.

I mean, they're both awful options and I wouldn't have voted for either one of them. But if I had to choose one, it wouldn't have been Galloway.

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He might have been, but Labour did have Amy choice but to remove him.You could argue they should have seen it sooner, but it was too late to have another candidate stand.

Soreteatowel · 01/03/2024 15:10

Labour didn't have any choice..

BowConcentration · 01/03/2024 16:05

As a Muslim, I would not have voted for him in a million years. He is creepy, prejudiced, possibly dangerous and only cares about himself. As much of a Palestinian supporter as I am, my gut feeling is that people may have voted for him with hate in their hearts, which is not healthy for any community.

Let us hope he doesn’t get elected next time and that he won’t do much damage to the community in the meantime.

Oh if only we had a decent, principled and strong Labour Party. I feel lost really.

Thestruggler · 01/03/2024 20:01

I think BowConcentration has nailed it.

BeretInParis · 01/03/2024 20:10

Humdingerydoo · 01/03/2024 12:20

There were other candidates opposed to the war. The other candidates who are against the war would all have been better options because they at least care about other things than just Gaza. They would have also wanted to make things better for the people they represent. Galloway doesn't. He doesn't give a flying fuck about them.

People voted for Galloway because he's an antisemite, and now other people are celebrating that an antisemite has been voted in. So that's fun.

This with bells on.

BeretInParis · 01/03/2024 20:17

BowConcentration · 01/03/2024 16:05

As a Muslim, I would not have voted for him in a million years. He is creepy, prejudiced, possibly dangerous and only cares about himself. As much of a Palestinian supporter as I am, my gut feeling is that people may have voted for him with hate in their hearts, which is not healthy for any community.

Let us hope he doesn’t get elected next time and that he won’t do much damage to the community in the meantime.

Oh if only we had a decent, principled and strong Labour Party. I feel lost really.

This too.

I believe many who voted for Galloway voted for him because they're anti Zionist Jew-haters. Not all, but many. Galloway is an unapologetic anti Zionist Jew-hater. Like attracts like.

And I'm not saying people can't criticise the Israeli government. There's plenty to critique. I'm saying that Galloway fundamentally believes Israel shouldn't exist and he is antisemitic.

stomachamelon · 02/03/2024 09:42

Ah George Galloway....

People of Rochdale concerned about the NHS, education, policing and cost of living......
MushMonster · 02/03/2024 09:48

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MushMonster · 02/03/2024 09:49

I actually like this speech more?
Not that I ptefer Boris over Sunak. To me, they are the same problem.

MushMonster · 02/03/2024 10:05

Sorry, I was meant to post that on the thread about Sunak's announcement. I will report it.

quantumbutterfly · 02/03/2024 10:21

Baileyscream · 01/03/2024 13:37

I think it's embarrassing for Rochdale and for UK politics. Galloway isn't some moral symbol. He just wants to be an MP snd will jump on any band wagon to get there.

Now the crown has finished Netflix could dramatise Rochdale's history. There is a enough material for a good few seasons. They should ofcourse include the Co-op movement and Rochdale's involvement in anti-slavery too (we do have some history to be proud of).

The Rochdale pioneers are a proud part of UK history.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/manchester/hi/people_and_places/history/newsid_8838000/8838778.stm

This result not so much.

BBC - How Rochdale Pioneers changed commerce forever

http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/manchester/hi/people_and_places/history/newsid_8838000/8838778.stm

Baileyscream · 02/03/2024 10:29

@quantumbutterfly I know, I like many despise the result. I from Rochdale and just felt the need to put something good about the town. It hasn't always been this bad.

The wards are split very badly with some households that are two to three miles from the centre and have a Rochdale postal address coming under Heywood and Middleton. Many residents in Castleton, Bamford and Norden (areas of Rochdale) are frustrated that they didn't get a say. I'm from one of these and I'm relieved we have a different MP. These areas are more likely to vote and to vote differently than Labour or GG due to the demographic. Heywood and Middleton is under the Torys. Hopefully Dave Tully will stand again.

quantumbutterfly · 02/03/2024 10:46

So many people are politically homeless in the UK, when an extremist like Galloway gets in the danger becomes more evident.

The Rochdale pioneers were an example of disparate people working together to meet their needs, they should be an inspiration.

The opposite of divide and conquer that seems so prevalent now.