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Conflict in the Middle East

Letter from Scholars of Holocaust & Antisemitism

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Decisiontimenow · 22/11/2023 21:20

An Open Letter on the Misuse of Holocaust Memory
Omer Bartov, Christopher R. Browning, Jane Caplan, Debórah Dwork, Michael Rothberg, et al.

Appealing to the memory of the Holocaust obscures our understanding of the antisemitism Jews face today and dangerously misrepresents the causes of violence in Israel-Palestine.
November 20, 2023

We the undersigned are scholars of the Holocaust and antisemitism from different institutions. We write to express our dismay and disappointment at political leaders and notable public figures invoking Holocaust memory to explain the current crisis in Gaza and Israel.

Particular examples have ranged from Israeli Ambassador to the UN Gilad Erdan donning a yellow star featuring the words “Never Again” while addressing the UN General Assembly, to US President Joe Biden saying that Hamas had “engaged in barbarism that is as consequential as the Holocaust,” while Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told German Chancellor Olaf Scholz that “Hamas are the new Nazis.” US Representative Brian Mast, a Republican from Florida, speaking on the House floor, questioned the idea that there are “innocent Palestinian civilians,” claiming, “I don’t think we would so lightly throw around the term ‘innocent Nazi civilians’ during World War II.”

Antisemitism often increases at times of heightened crisis in Israel-Palestine, as do Islamophobia and anti-Arab racism. The unconscionable violence of the October 7 attacks and the ongoing aerial bombardment and invasion of Gaza are devastating, and are generating pain and fear among Jewish and Palestinian communities around the world. We reiterate that everyone has the right to feel safe wherever they live, and that addressing racism, antisemitism, and Islamophobia must be a priority.

It is understandable why many in the Jewish community recall the Holocaust and earlier pogroms when trying to comprehend what happened on October 7—the massacres, and the images that came out in the aftermath, have tapped into deep-seated collective memory of genocidal antisemitism, driven by all-too-recent Jewish history.

However, appealing to the memory of the Holocaust obscures our understanding of the antisemitism Jews face today, and dangerously misrepresents the causes of violence in Israel-Palestine. The Nazi genocide involved a state—and its willing civil society—attacking a tiny minority, which then escalated to a continent-wide genocide. Indeed, comparisons of the crisis unfolding in Israel-Palestine to Nazism and the Holocaust—above all when they come from political leaders and others who can sway public opinion—are intellectual and moral failings. At a moment when emotions are running high, political leaders have a responsibility to act calmly and avoid stoking the flames of distress and division. And, as academics, we have a duty to uphold the intellectual integrity of our profession and support others around the world in making sense of this moment.

Israeli leaders and others are using the Holocaust framing to portray Israel’s collective punishment of Gaza as a battle for civilization in the face of barbarism, thereby promoting racist narratives about Palestinians. This rhetoric encourages us to separate this current crisis from the context out of which it has arisen. Seventy-five years of displacement, fifty-six years of occupation, and sixteen years of the Gaza blockade have generated an ever-deteriorating spiral of violence that can only be arrested by a political solution. There is no military solution in Israel-Palestine, and deploying a Holocaust narrative in which an “evil” must be vanquished by force will only perpetuate an oppressive state of affairs that has already lasted far too long.

Insisting that “Hamas are the new Nazis”—while holding Palestinians collectively responsible for Hamas’s actions—attributes hardened, antisemitic motivations to those who defend Palestinian rights. It also positions the protection of Jewish people against the upholding of international human rights and laws, implying that the current assault on Gaza is a necessity. And invoking the Holocaust to dismiss demonstrators calling for a “free Palestine” fuels the repression of Palestinian human rights advocacy and the conflation of antisemitism with criticism of Israel.

In this climate of growing insecurity, we need clarity about antisemitism so that we can properly identify and combat it. We also need clear thinking as we grapple with and respond to what is unfolding in Gaza and the West Bank. And we need to be forthright in dealing with these simultaneous realities—of resurgent antisemitism and widespread killing in Gaza, as well as escalating expulsions in the West Bank—as we engage with the public discourse.

We encourage those who have so readily invoked comparisons to Nazi Germany to listen to the rhetoric coming from Israel’s political leadership. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told the Israeli parliament that “this is a struggle between the children of light and the children of darkness” (a tweet from his office with the same phrase was later deleted). Defense Minister Yoav Gallant proclaimed, “We are fighting human animals and we act accordingly.” Such comments, along with a widespread and frequently cited argument that there are no innocent Palestinians in Gaza, do indeed bring to mind echoes of historical mass violence. But those resonances should serve as an injunction against wide-scale killing, not as a call to extend it.

As academics we have a responsibility to use our words, and our expertise, with judgment and sensitivity—to try and dial down inciteful language that is liable to provoke further discord, and instead to prioritize speech and action aimed at preventing further loss of life. This is why when invoking the past, we must do so in ways that illuminate the present and do not distort it. This is the necessary basis for establishing peace and justice in Palestine and Israel. This is why we urge public figures, including the media, to stop using these kinds of comparisons.

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Summerhillsquare · 22/11/2023 22:14

Bravo 👏👏👏

The whatabouters will be along shortly to correct the scholars of course.

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Sussurations · 22/11/2023 22:32

Im not Jewish and I’m certainly no expert on the Holocaust.

My take on this is that yes, it’s incorrect and unhelpful to compare Hamas with the Nazi
party/government and inflammatory to make comparisons between civilians under oppressive regimes. However, I think the statement will be used by people who will interpret it in an un-nuanced and self-serving way to justify their own hateful views, against Jewish people and against those who talk about why Israel needs to exist.

Decisiontimenow · 22/11/2023 22:33

@Sussurations
I don’t have a take, just sharing what experts on the Holocaust and Antisemitism have written in an open letter.

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ScrollingLeaves · 22/11/2023 22:55

What an important letter. It explains complicated ideas with nuance, and injects reason where there are violent emotions.

Happyvalleyfan · 22/11/2023 22:59

Sussurations · 22/11/2023 22:32

Im not Jewish and I’m certainly no expert on the Holocaust.

My take on this is that yes, it’s incorrect and unhelpful to compare Hamas with the Nazi
party/government and inflammatory to make comparisons between civilians under oppressive regimes. However, I think the statement will be used by people who will interpret it in an un-nuanced and self-serving way to justify their own hateful views, against Jewish people and against those who talk about why Israel needs to exist.

Some might, but on the whole most people are just asking for the bombing of innocent civilians in Gaza to stop.

Mdg247 · 25/11/2023 19:55

You ‘don’t have a take’ but you’re ‘just sharing’ a selective list of opinions from those YOU would like to highlight. You went through the effort to type it all out, so you clearly do have a take and you wish to share it publicly.

Let’s just be honest, I don’t see the point in being covert about that fact?

I think (just IMO) this topic is largely irrelevant to the overall cause and if you want to support the rights of Palestinians, it’s a very worthy cause. I don’t see how the holocaust or that kind of rhetoric affects you personally in day to day life, nor generally negates the reality of what is happening.

furthermore, whether particular Israeli politicians use the holocaust to justify their actions or not, were it not the holocaust, it would be something else. The fact is, what’s happening is happening and whatever excuses are used don’t justify it. I’ve seen a huge variety of ‘reasons’ but they largely don’t affect my opinion, and they shouldn’t yours…

I feel this post is just trying to stir up tension.

Lilylula · 25/11/2023 20:00

I think it's a good, measured letter making important points that will protect both sides.

I don't see how the post is trying to stir up tension.

Mdg247 · 25/11/2023 20:15

It is widely unhelpful and specifically not helpful to both sides. There is nothing to say none of us should be making comparisons to the holocaust (as many pro Palestinian protestors actually do). It’s literally just to talk about how Jews may feel that October 7 envokes memories of the holocaust, but ‘not to worry guys!’ the Israeli government are deliberately indoctrinating Jews and Israelis with memories of the holocaust in regards to Hamas and their actions.

I think we all are aware that netanyahu and his cronies have no moral justification for the death of however many thousand Palestinians. So what’s the purpose of the thread? If you want to support both sides, denounce antisemitism when it is seen, and irregardless of what the Israeli government want to say, carry on supporting the innocent Palestinian civilians.

immigrant002 · 25/11/2023 20:32

Amazing words !!I find it despicable when people use the pain of halaucast survivors to excuse what the fascist israel government is currently doing !

Happyvalleyfan · 25/11/2023 20:56

Mdg247 · 25/11/2023 20:15

It is widely unhelpful and specifically not helpful to both sides. There is nothing to say none of us should be making comparisons to the holocaust (as many pro Palestinian protestors actually do). It’s literally just to talk about how Jews may feel that October 7 envokes memories of the holocaust, but ‘not to worry guys!’ the Israeli government are deliberately indoctrinating Jews and Israelis with memories of the holocaust in regards to Hamas and their actions.

I think we all are aware that netanyahu and his cronies have no moral justification for the death of however many thousand Palestinians. So what’s the purpose of the thread? If you want to support both sides, denounce antisemitism when it is seen, and irregardless of what the Israeli government want to say, carry on supporting the innocent Palestinian civilians.

That’s a very one sided interpretation of the use of the H word, which the letter is trying to combat?

Firstly - it’s used by both sides and not just “many pro Palestinian protestors.”

And whilst many of us can absolutely understand the fear that Israel’s felt on October the 7th, the use of the H word is NOT “literally just to talk about how Jews may feel that October 7 envokes memories of the holocaust” - it’s being by justify the slaughter of thousands of innocent Palestinians.

Mdg247 · 25/11/2023 21:14

You’ve clearly heard from what I’ve said what you want to hear. I don’t need you to spell out what the letter said, I’ve ready it, and maintain it’s largely unhelpful… and yes, one sided.

Happyvalleyfan · 25/11/2023 21:26

You feel the letter was one sided? That’s interesting as I thought it was empathetic to both sides.

Mdg247 · 25/11/2023 22:12

It’s not interesting. It is a fact. Where in that letter do you see it being anything other than one sided?

I don’t disagree with the point, as a Jew myself. I would not compare Hamas to the Nazis or what happened on October 7th to the holocaust. What I find one sided about it, is that is explicitly and only talks about the use of the holocaust as reason for the Israeli government to justify their actions. There is NO mention of the constant holocaust references from the other side of the fence. Many Jews who may have felt compelled to march on behalf of the Palestinians have been ostracised from those groups due to the constant reference to the holocaust in regards to Israel in Gaza. I am absolutely sick of the constant references to Israel being Nazis, and the war being another ‘Holocaust’ which is abundant and undeniable. You can find the placards amongst the majority of protest imagery. There is no comparison. Just as we don’t compare international genocides or wide scale massacres with each other, it is in poor taste and only shows a serious lack of critical thinking.

Not once does this article mention it, nor does it mention anything about using the correct rhetoric for BOTH sides of the conflict. What in this ‘letter’ do you think makes it anything other than one sided?

i am presuming it is only not one sided to you, because you’re looking for confirmation as to what you want to hear. You haven’t even thought for a moment about the other side of the fence or what dangerous rhetoric does to them.

For those of us who want to be fair in our approach without ANY use of inflammatory language or the need to create ANY kind of parallels, this post served absolutely no purpose. The OP’s ‘no purpose for posting just did’ comment is so ridiculously reflective is testament enough. You don’t post something ‘just because’ 😂

Decisiontimenow · 25/11/2023 22:13

@Mdg247
With the best will in the world I don’t understand what on earth you’re trying to say??!
But if it helps you somehow, I didn’t type a word of this, I copied and pasted an article to save people having to click on link (which I then posted, also above).
Also have to add how funny it is to read someone critique a Open Letter by these five experts on the Holocaust and antisemitism, celebrated academics who have dedicated their life’s work to these fields as “one sided”. I mean, the arrogance is staggering.
I genuinely didn’t have a take, I had nothing to add to what I read but seeing these important terms thrown around without any regard to their veracity, yes I’d rather defer to people who actually know what they are talking about, for all manner of reasons.

Mdg247 · Today 19:55

You ‘don’t have a take’ but you’re ‘just sharing’ a selective list of opinions from those YOU would like to highlight. You went through the effort to type it all out, so you clearly do have a take and you wish to share it publicly.

Let’s just be honest, I don’t see the point in being covert about that fact?

I think (just IMO) this topic is largely irrelevant to the overall cause and if you want to support the rights of Palestinians, it’s a very worthy cause. I don’t see how the holocaust or that kind of rhetoric affects you personally in day to day life, nor generally negates the reality of what is happening.

furthermore, whether particular Israeli politicians use the holocaust to justify their actions or not, were it not the holocaust, it would be something else. The fact is, what’s happening is happening and whatever excuses are used don’t justify it. I’ve seen a huge variety of ‘reasons’ but they largely don’t affect my opinion, and they shouldn’t yours…

I feel this post is just trying to stir up tension.

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BabaBarrio · 25/11/2023 22:26

I think @Mdg247 has a point that the letter is one-sided. Numerous ceasefire marches have had placards that say things like “Never Again is for Everyone” which are indirect allusions to the Holocaust and that is before you even start looking at antisemitic placards including one in London that put a Nazi swatiska inside an Israel flag, or one other I saw a photo off that added an Adolf Hitler moustache to Nethanyu’s face.

The reason the letter ends up being one sided is because the writers only focused on “political leaders and notable public figures” not the average citizen who may be protesting or tweeting or posting on mumsnet.

I’m not sure why they focussed only on “political leaders and notable public figures” but the absence of commenting on the average citizen misusing the Holocaust is a glaring, if unintended, consequence of writing letter that is to speak truth to power, while forgetting about people power.

Mdg247 · 25/11/2023 22:34

Thank you. This is exactly what I wanted to say but you’ve done so far more eloquently

BabaBarrio · 25/11/2023 22:34

I think though, it is a good letter and one the historians were right to publish because of the clear influence these people have on the regular citizens, “Indeed, comparisons of the crisis unfolding in Israel-Palestine to Nazism and the Holocaust—when they come from political leaders and others who can sway public opinion—are intellectual and moral failings. At a moment when emotions are running high, political leaders have a responsibility to act calmly and avoid stoking the flames of distress and division”

I think based on the above, they thought the regular citizen misusing the Holocaust on all sides was because leaders and notable public figures had been role modelling this behaviour and rhetoric and therefore their letter was to go to what they saw was the source of issue.

It is empathetic and contains nuance. It’s an important voice for them to have used as scholars of the Holocaust and Genocide.

BabaBarrio · 25/11/2023 22:36

But yeah, I think they presumed regular citizens are lemmings and just followed the lead of politicians and public figures when, in fact, there has been a lot of grass roots reactions to the horrors unfolding that they did have a blind spot for people power.

Mdg247 · 25/11/2023 22:36

Just because someone, or even a group of people are academics, doesn’t mean that their opinion encompasses all? There is no arrogance in my questioning of your intention.

Furthermore there was not one point that I have said it is incorrect (which you seem to have conveniently missed), more that it talks to only one aspect of the wider rhetoric surrounding this entire issue, therefore it is one sided and not balanced at all. Again, what is the point of it? What point are you trying to prove with it? I don’t understand?

BabaBarrio · 25/11/2023 22:41

That is true, they are one voice amongst many necessary expert type voices. While they are experts on genocide and the Holocaust, that doesn’t make them terrorism or war crime or conflict resolution or military strategy or humanitarian aid or hostage negotiation experts. So it’s a good letter in that they at least stayed in their area of expertise even if they forgot about the regular citizen who only has one vote and is individually powerless but as a group, quite powerful in driving international pressures.

Decisiontimenow · 25/11/2023 22:54

@Mdg247

I don’t want to be unkind but I don’t understand what you are trying to say / ask here?

Do you have a problem with me sharing an Open Letter, if so why? You wrote something weird about me typing out select opinions, and having a take but being “covert”… all very paranoid thinking (as well as incorrect!).
I already replied to you explaining why I shared it, though I don’t understand why I need to? What irks you so much?

I still don’t see this letter as one sided or unbalanced, or let me put it this way, how would you balance it? What am I missing?

@BabaBarrio
I understand what you are saying but you seem to be critiquing them for not writing a different kind of letter? That’s like saying a song is missing something because it’s not a different song…

We write to express our dismay and disappointment at political leaders and notable public figures invoking Holocaust memory to explain the current crisis in Gaza and Israel.

That’s a very specific and clear purpose and they go on to outline examples of such misuse as well as why it is problematic. I think it’s okay that one thing doesn’t cover everything. And I think it’s very good, don’t think I’ve anything else to add x

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Mdg247 · 25/11/2023 23:17

I guess my point to you is this, and I’m breaking it down for ease of clarity (for myself also)

  1. The Israeli government have just killed an excessive amount of Palestinians in the name of ‘retaliation’ against Hamas

  2. Amongst many other things, the Israeli government have used the war against Hamas to say ‘never again’ (Holocaust reference) to the murder of Jews.

  3. Of all the things, and the rhetoric we have seen from the Israeli government, Holocaust allusions are somewhat the least of everybody’s issues. Their references very clearly do not justify the level of assymetric warfare, and I don’t think anyone truly believes that it does? I guess I’m trying to say, what does this matter, why is it important what the Israeli government say? They’ve said lots of things and this is only one of them… therefore we know very clearly and it should be obvious that the Holocaust is not the reason for them to be ‘on guard’ against Hamas and excessively disparaging towards Palestinians in the process. I would argue that the issue here is much more about far right radicalism and expansionist mentality (basically religious extremism) which is one of the primary reasons settlements (for example) are widespread. For added context there have been huge scale uprisings against netanyahu for the past year, so I wouldn’t want to scaremonger people into thinking that the general Israeli public are pulleying whatever netanyahu is saying in their justification for this (if they can justify it, or want to.)

  4. For Jews who are experiencing the highest levels of antisemitism on record for a very long period of time (possibly since the holocaust if I’m honest) - all highlighting this topic does, is emphasise the very popular trope of Jews crying victim, which is a common theme right now. I’m not saying you did this purposefully, but I’m explaining that if there is a issue right now with the misuse of holocaust references, it is definitely more dismissible when we are talking about the Israeli government. The holocaust is being used most commonly, at this moment in time to make comparisons between Jews and the Nazis. Aside from the netanyahu comparisons (which is in bad taste but I care less about) the common discourse of this whole war is;

‘Palestinians let Jews in when they were thrown out of Europe and this is how they repay the Palestinians’

‘The oppressed have become the oppressors’

etc etc.

  1. What I am trying to explain is that, right now the rhetoric of the Israeli government has far less impact than the rhetoric of the general populace who are using certain references to silence Jews and Israeli (victims, of which there are, irregardless of their government).

I am also a scholar on this subject, my degree was on the conflict, and I have spent many years both assisting with charity work on behalf of Palestinians and similarly, involved with work against antisemitism in the U.K. and Europe.

I don’t think I can fully put into words how widespread this issue actually is, it is genuinely terrifying and I do not scare easily, but I would say that if we are going to discuss the holocaust in the context of this conflict, Israeli government officials making comparisons is far LESS of the problem right now for all of the above reasons.

Above all, I would prefer none of us bring up the holocaust at all in regards to any of this, as I am sure the majority of Jews and Israelis would too. It isn’t really relevant and is such minutia in regards to everything that the Israeli government are doing wrong.

BabaBarrio · 25/11/2023 23:17

To use the song example, it’s noticing a song has a great melody but no harmony. Single track. No depth.

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