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SomeCatFromJapan · 21/11/2023 22:21

A man made a nice speech about it, too. Doesn't he sound sane and pleasant:

https://twitter.com/tim_meh87/status/1727030338256359655

https://twitter.com/tim_meh87/status/1727030338256359655

backtowinter · 21/11/2023 22:21

SomeCatFromJapan · 21/11/2023 22:16

Pity they didn't find it in themselves to condemn the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

BRICS innit

Happy enough with war crimes committed by their buddies 🤷🏻‍♀️

roarrfeckingroar · 21/11/2023 22:24

Disgusting

eester · 21/11/2023 22:26

roarrfeckingroar · 21/11/2023 22:24

Disgusting

Israeli govt behaviour? Yes it is. I fully agree. So does South Africa.

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SomeCatFromJapan · 21/11/2023 22:27

Happy enough with war crimes committed by their buddies

Yep. Which includes Hamas.

OuiOuiKitty · 21/11/2023 22:33

Parkingt111 · 21/11/2023 21:54

Famous words of Nelson Mandela
We know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians

For sure, nobody is free, until everybody is free. Good on South Africa. It really seems that countries that have felt oppression and injustice themselves are the countries that are standing up and saying enough.

Blanketsburg · 21/11/2023 22:37

OuiOuiKitty · 21/11/2023 22:33

For sure, nobody is free, until everybody is free. Good on South Africa. It really seems that countries that have felt oppression and injustice themselves are the countries that are standing up and saying enough.

Nothing but platitudes and buzzwords. What a simple and vacuous view of the world.

It does track, though, having read some accounts of farm attacks in SA. Makes sense they'd be cool with Hamas' butchery.

stormy4319trevor · 21/11/2023 22:38

@Blanketsburg Who is 'they'?

eester · 21/11/2023 22:40

South Africa certainly has its own issues with corruption, govt and so on. I am not making excuses for it in those terms. It has a complicated history and has a long way to go.

But the fact that it managed to resolve its own oppressive apartheid is no small feat. Thank goodness it did.

We need to reflect on this achievement and learn from the experience of the South Africans who went through this awful period and came out the other side. They have a lot to teach us, especially given what is going on now.

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Blanketsburg · 21/11/2023 22:41

stormy4319trevor · 21/11/2023 22:38

@Blanketsburg Who is 'they'?

Those voting to sever ties with Israel - the subject of the thread.

ssd · 21/11/2023 22:42

The usual posters crawling out the woodwork to condemn a country that has done the right thing and stood up for oppressed and displaced people with nowhere to go. Smearing anyone who doesn't promote apartheid and the genocide of these people.

Shame on you all. History will show this for what it is and you will never be able to cover it up. Never! Shame on you.

stormy4319trevor · 21/11/2023 22:43

bluebluegreen · 21/11/2023 21:23

Well, I read some news reports today that stated that South Arica was trying to back out of UN conventions so that they could return migrants to South Africa back to their country of origin. So maybe South Africa is not quite the brilliant country you thought it was.

I'm not a fan of Windrush or the Rwanda scheme, but I still think the UK is a great country. Not sure that government policies are a good reason to dismiss a country and its people altogether.

SomeCatFromJapan · 21/11/2023 22:44

The usual posters crawling out the woodwork to condemn a country that has done the right thing and stood up for oppressed and displaced people with nowhere to go

They've literally just withdrawn from the UN refugee convention!

stormy4319trevor · 21/11/2023 22:44

Blanketsburg · 21/11/2023 22:41

Those voting to sever ties with Israel - the subject of the thread.

OK, sorry - are they doing farm attacks?

SomeCatFromJapan · 21/11/2023 22:45

Not sure that government policies are a good reason to dismiss a country and its people altogether.

It's a wonderful country with wonderful people. The ANC not so much.

eester · 21/11/2023 22:47

Regardless of their own issues, UN convention etc, they've made the right call on this issue with the Israeli embassy, you know, the issue the OP was about.

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stormy4319trevor · 21/11/2023 22:48

SomeCatFromJapan · 21/11/2023 22:45

Not sure that government policies are a good reason to dismiss a country and its people altogether.

It's a wonderful country with wonderful people. The ANC not so much.

I don't know loads about it, but had relatives very committed to anti apartheid movement and I understand it was a brutal, oppressive system.

OuiOuiKitty · 21/11/2023 22:58

Blanketsburg · 21/11/2023 22:37

Nothing but platitudes and buzzwords. What a simple and vacuous view of the world.

It does track, though, having read some accounts of farm attacks in SA. Makes sense they'd be cool with Hamas' butchery.

Mmm, such barbarians yet they still have a more moral stance on genocide and ethnic cleansing than the UKs pathetic 'We hope you win.' Imagine living in a country where your pm thinks ethnic cleansing is some kind of sports match 😳

stormy4319trevor · 21/11/2023 23:02

It's depressing @OuiOuiKitty

Blanketsburg · 21/11/2023 23:03

stormy4319trevor · 21/11/2023 22:44

OK, sorry - are they doing farm attacks?

Them personally? No, of course not. But I tend to think the lawmakers and government of a country hold some responsibility for the levels of crime in that country.

Blanketsburg · 21/11/2023 23:06

OuiOuiKitty · 21/11/2023 22:58

Mmm, such barbarians yet they still have a more moral stance on genocide and ethnic cleansing than the UKs pathetic 'We hope you win.' Imagine living in a country where your pm thinks ethnic cleansing is some kind of sports match 😳

No idea what you're on about. More silly buzzwords. "More moral", indeed.

SomeCatFromJapan · 21/11/2023 23:08

Them personally? No, of course not. But I tend to think the lawmakers and government of a country hold some responsibility for the levels of crime in that country.

Crime? They can't even keep the lights on. But speaking of:
https://twitter.com/Abramjee/status/1726861657798742354

I don't know loads about it, but had relatives very committed to anti apartheid movement and I understand it was a brutal, oppressive system.

It was. The largely peaceful transition to democracy was nothing short of a miracle. The situation three decades later is a bitter disappointment after all that hope and optimism.

https://twitter.com/Abramjee/status/1726861657798742354

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OuiOuiKitty · 21/11/2023 23:14

Blanketsburg · 21/11/2023 23:06

No idea what you're on about. More silly buzzwords. "More moral", indeed.

😂