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Conflict in the Middle East

Did your MP vote for a ceasefire?

89 replies

BoohooWoohoo · 16/11/2023 09:25

https://votes.parliament.uk/votes/commons/division/1666

Aye = ceasefire
No = no ceasefire

My MP is a Tory so toed the party line and said no 😡

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BoohooWoohoo · 16/11/2023 11:37

EsmaCannonball · 16/11/2023 11:34

The fact that Labour three-line whipped its MP's into voting against a ceasefire gives you an insight into real public opinion on this issue. Despite all the marches and protests, Labour polling must have shown that siding against Israel is a vote-loser.

I wonder if it's a desperate attempt to try and shake the anti-semitism that the extreme left of the party had no shame in demonstrating under Corbyn even though most people are smart enough to know that criticising the Israeli government isn't anti-semitism.

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EsmaCannonball · 16/11/2023 11:55

I don't think Labour is going to have problems winning the next general election because of cost of living, etc., They do want to shake off the anti-Semitic image but they also know along with that image came the taint of sympathising with jihadism. For a lot of voters this isn't just going to be about the Middle East but is going to be about national security, law and order and liberal democratic values. If a bomb goes off on the tube or another MP is murdered, Labour doesn't want to be seen as the party that stood with the people cosplaying as Hamas.

BeggyMitchell · 16/11/2023 12:00

Sausagenbacon · 16/11/2023 09:43

No (labour). Makes me much more likely to vote for her.

Same.

murasaki · 16/11/2023 12:18

No, Labour.

Oliotya · 16/11/2023 12:19

Conservative - abstained. Spineless as always.

stormy4319trevor · 16/11/2023 12:29

EsmaCannonball · 16/11/2023 11:34

The fact that Labour three-line whipped its MP's into voting against a ceasefire gives you an insight into real public opinion on this issue. Despite all the marches and protests, Labour polling must have shown that siding against Israel is a vote-loser.

I agree that Starmer seems sure it's best to side with Israel's government. On an individual level, I think MP's might also be considering the demographics of their constituencies, the outcome of next election and where they want to be in any reshuffles.

Sausagenbacon · 16/11/2023 12:48

When jess phillips has voted for it you definitely know it's a load of virtue signall8ng bollocks

ilovesooty · 16/11/2023 12:52

Yes I assume so. He resigned from the front bench over it last week.

I like Jess Philips.

2band1g2020 · 16/11/2023 13:14

Yes, Labour. And then he resigned too apparently.

MrTiddlesTheCat · 16/11/2023 13:32

Noelectricheating · 16/11/2023 10:08

Did any Tory MP's vote for a ceasefire or did they all vote against a ceasefire?

My tory MP didn't bother showing up. Same as usual. He's standing down at the next election. We won't notice any difference.

FKATondelayo · 16/11/2023 13:39

No. Tory.

Good for him. What a colossal waste of time. What would have been the effect of a 'Yes' vote passing? None whatsoever apart from giving certain MPs a cosy glow of smug superiority. The parliamentary equivalent of changing your FB image to a 'Ceasefire now' logo.

Plexie · 16/11/2023 13:40

Where does it say what the proposed amendment was? There was a vote on an SNP amendment after the Labour one but I can't remember the wording of either. And no idea what the other two were about.

stormy4319trevor · 16/11/2023 14:00

Is it right that Starmer said he would sack anyone voting for a ceasefire? If so, has he done that?

Houseplanter · 16/11/2023 14:03

What difference does it make? I mean how will the outcome of this vote change anything?! Why does what our MPs think make the slightest difference to how terrorists behave?!

lancaster · 16/11/2023 14:05

Yes. SNP

Oganesson118 · 16/11/2023 16:27

My labour MP abstained and so did the labour MP of our neighbouring constituency.

TooOldForThisNonsense · 16/11/2023 16:52

stormy4319trevor · 16/11/2023 14:00

Is it right that Starmer said he would sack anyone voting for a ceasefire? If so, has he done that?

Yes. They were whipped to vote so if the front bench go against that they have to step down or be sacked.

stormy4319trevor · 16/11/2023 16:55

That's a fair few MPs going then. Many thanks.

BethDuttonsTwin · 16/11/2023 17:13

Yes - Labour. Disappointing but I will still vote for him in future as he is very present and works hard for the borough. Can’t agree on everything and I am not prone to tantrums and throwing the baby out with the bath water just because someone doesn’t agree with me.

ssd · 16/11/2023 23:13

Houseplanter · 16/11/2023 14:03

What difference does it make? I mean how will the outcome of this vote change anything?! Why does what our MPs think make the slightest difference to how terrorists behave?!

You're right, the IDF don't listen to anyone even the US.

MooFroo · 16/11/2023 23:15

fairymary87 · 16/11/2023 10:19

Shocking so many didn't call for a ceasefire. Would of been nice for the uk to fight for the innocent children being murdered each day!

Exactly! shame on them!
so scared of a PM who the people didn’t even vote in - it’s all a joke

Roste · 17/11/2023 07:48

Palestinian people in the U.K. must be feeling so despondent today as the U.K. parliament has openly declared its support of Palestinian genocide. Neither of the two main parties have any decency and I hope people remember this at the next election .
To those saying it wouldn’t have made a real difference. Yes, the Israeli government are beyond depraved at the moment and civilised response is to say no, to stand up and be counted. I can’t believe this country was so pivotal in defeating a European genocide in the last century yet openly encourages the descendants of the victims to enact another. What is clear, is that Palestinian lives are irrelevant to the UK parliament.

Sausagenbacon · 17/11/2023 09:16

To those saying it wouldn’t have made a real difference. Yes, the Israeli government are beyond depraved at the moment
What's so depressing about posts like this is the wilful amnesia

Noelectricheating · 17/11/2023 18:50

A labour MP that voted against the ceasefire has had her office vandalised with red paint all over it (BBC news).

Violence and hate speech is on the increase.

soundsys · 17/11/2023 18:55

Mine didn't vote. Labour MP in a constituency where you could pin a red rosette on a cabbage and it would win.