I feel really bad for the UK police ATM

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Yes, I know that the poor people in Israel and Palestine have it far worse, and we in the UK are lucky. However...

Does anyone else feel bad for the police on the ground who are having to manage an impossible situation with these weekly Isr-Pal protests?

Every interaction seems to be filmed, and every word they speak taken out of context.

If they arrest people, they're too heavy handed. If they let people do as they please, they're accused of allowing racism.

What do people realistically expect them to do?

@Shodan I ama grateful to your husband and other decent officers

I do feel sorry for the Police, they have a a thankless task.

Some of the comments on here are vile and make me think this country is truly fucked if this is the norm now. I hope those of you who have expressed such negativity would not bother them if you were burgled, threatened, etc

Who the hell would feel sorry for a police force that is so riven with misogyny that they managed to break up so many Pro female women's protests without a blink of an eye, are never on the ball when transactivists are violent at any female only association, didn't do anything when statues were being toppled at BLM matches, arrest underage girls with autism for stating that a lesbian copper looked like her lesbian nana and now stand rocksteady when Pro Palestinian supporters throw fireworks at them.
When the police who have been shit at following the basic tenets of policing to the point that serious crimes are minimised to the point that one can reasonably expect no police to turn up if burgled, but expect a knock on the door for stating biological truth....the police deserve no pity.
The police have chosen to politicise themselves by following the Left wing accord of the Heirarchy Of Oppression. Women and Jews are at the bottom of that .
Our police and judiciary are the laughing stock of the developed world.
Which police force out here in creation stands letting idiots throw fireworks at them due to letting themselves be stifled by political correctness and expects to harness any respect even a basic level of respect from the most virulent snto police types who at least admit that a decent society needs an institution that fairly enforces law and order?
Rough Justice is going to make a big return to this country as the police cannot even be depended on to defend themselves, much less the citizens.

If the police don't get a bit of "act right" about them on Remembrance Sunday, we'll be looking back in ten years time pinpointing that error as the catalyst for why there is so much schtuck and depending on which side people are or have been designated to be on, who is more under manners than who.
Sunday is the test to remind London's police and people that we are to the UK as is Paris to France, but that reputation does not have to be seen to be true in front of the world.

Must be expensive! I saw two police vans from other constabularies on Saturday evening parked between Piccadilly and Trafalgar Square. The Heddlu Maria then sped past us going home on Sunday morning so they were put up somewhere too. The other van was from Lancashire. Wanted to say they were far from home but they didn't look happy so just walked past.

No, HTH

Yes why not let people injure others and
destroy their property. Sounds like a fantastic idea…

No I wouldn't bother them if I was burgled etc. unless to get a crime number and that is precisely the problem. Their detection rate is laughable, they don't even bother investigating alot of crime and the criminals know it. I do not blame the officers at the bottom, it's their leadership and politicians who are the problem.

The police have so many horrible and dangerous jobs, but this one is straightforward: manage a democratic right within the law.

IMO they have blurred the lines by being seen to support marches: rainbow face paint while in uniform, FFS. Fine be genial, friendly and polite with members of the public when things are calm but their shenanigans around Pride (also a political demonstration) has led people to think the police either ‘support’ a cause… or they don’t. What is required is that they do their job.

I do not blame the officers at the bottom, it's their leadership and politicians who are the problem.

This is actually very heartening to read. A lot of people seem to be unable to understand the difference and the blanket 'all police are corrupt' trope is as irritating as it is stupid. (Although it does usually give you an idea of the type of person that spouts it, so I guess it has its uses.)

And I agree- it is the leadership and politicians. No matter how many good police officers there are in the ranks, they are always held back by the ineffective, short-sighted policies implemented by those in authority who have no clue what it's like 'on the ground'.

I do but agree the system needs massive overhaul. Looking at a video of french police breaking up Palestine protesters they are much more authoritative, effective organised etc.

Lots of people resign when they can no longer support the ethos of their organisation. Those “on the ground” clearly don’t feel that strongly about it or they would vote with their feet. They don’t. Because they enjoy terrorising and banging their own political drums whilst leaving homeowners terrified because it’s easier to arrest someone with a Palestinian flag than it is to investigate a burglary.

Zero time for anyone of any rank within that cesspool.

*Lots of people resign when they can no longer support the ethos of their organisation. Those “on the ground” clearly don’t feel that strongly about it or they would vote with their feet. They don’t. Because they enjoy terrorising and banging their own political drums whilst leaving homeowners terrified because it’s easier to arrest someone with a Palestinian flag than it is to investigate a burglary.

Zero time for anyone of any rank within that cesspool.*

So you would prefer those good officers to leave, clearing the way for those with dubious morals? What a strange position to hold.

DP feels that he has a duty to stay and help the public, even in the face of such bigotry. I'm proud of him for that. It says a lot for his strength of character, that he will stay and do this even when others belittle his efforts.

People generally resign and move a position to in the same sector or to a job in a different sector using transferable skills. It’s not that straight forward with the police. Where do you move to? I have a friend who is a police officer who is basically waiting for retirement because her other employment options are very limited unless she takes a minimum wage job. She absolutely does not terrorise anyone. Her day to day job doesn’t involve policing the streets (or investigating burglaries) but she gets dragged in to police demos and other public events and her days off are often cancelled at the last minute.

The whole model of policing now is wrong. My grandad was in the Met from the 1920s to 50s. I used to love hearing his stories, he used to patrol everyday building relationships with the community, deterring crime and knew who all the villains were. There were local police stations now sold off. Now the police are reactive, based miles away and the only time anyone sees them is when they drive past in police cars. As usual the authorities binned a perfectly good effective system and brought in a bad one.

Neither do I blame the police officers themselves - I have two friends who are retired POs and I know how difficult their job can be and how they are frustrated by their leaders. If they are getting fireworks etc fired at them they need to don their riot gear/get water cannons/get the army in etc and put a quick stop to it. I can't believe what they are putting up with tbh.

Neither would I want to live in a society without a police force - but they have lost their focus over recent years and have become too political, too disconnected from normal people and trying to please/appease a lot of fringe interests instead of solving crimes. I even saw one on social media telling a person that they had to move because if the protesters attacked him it would be his fault for provoking them - total victim blaming/excusing violence instead of protecting the public.

That said, where I live we have a great local force who are still doing the local bobby type of job so no complaints there.

I mean, this chap doesn’t literally have to do this does he. No one is forcing him. But he’s doing it all the same. Disgraceful.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Britain/s/iOyfrIlUAB

A lot of people seem unable to understand that ‘the police’ does not mean every single police officer, but ‘the institution’ of policing, whereby bad policing is enabled by the leadership and upheld by politicians.

I think they do an enormously difficult job, putting themselves at risk of violence every time they go on shift (as do all emergency services workers, sadly) and I am immensely grateful that there are people willing to do that to make the country a safer place.

I am, however, critical of the Met Police as an organisation. They do not police everyone equally. Police forces are so terrified of being accused of Islamophobia and that impacts on how they police. I’m not ok with that.