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47 replies

mollymay · 07/07/2003 16:53

You probably think I'm mad but have any of you planned a pregnancy to avoid have a baby of a certain star sign?? I am ready to try for baby no.2 but don't want it to be born a certain star sign for personal reasons (I won't tell you which one cause I don't want to offend / upset anyone!!
Am I being stupid?!

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fio2 · 07/07/2003 16:56

no there are 3 scorpios in our house, and 1 libra. 3 scorpio tempers are enough for any household.

jojo21 · 07/07/2003 17:03

your not being stupid! my friend got pregnant because she wanted a baby with her starsign! big mistake 2 scorpios in the same house big no-no! i wanted a summer baby but now im 41+ week seems the baby won't come out till autumn!

beetroot · 07/07/2003 17:44

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janh · 07/07/2003 18:02

There are 4 Aries in our house - me being one of them - life is quite fiery! - and 3 birthdays to organise over 2 weeks.(I don't have birthdays any more!)

BUT the first was due under Pisces, the second under Aries and the third under Taurus. Four weeks isn't long enough to be precise in - if you want to miss something, aim for months away!

princesspeahead · 07/07/2003 18:34

I've avoided may babies as I can't face a taurus. Not because there is anything wrong with taurus per se (I should know, I am one!) but two tauruses fight like cats and dogs

SoupDragon · 07/07/2003 19:14

Star signs are a load of I have 2 Piscean children and apart from a love of water, they're completely different. DS2 should definitely have been an Aries child. I am Aries too and am completely non-firey.

The main reason I think star signs are a load of rubbish is that I was born 4 weeks early via induction. Are star signs based on when you were born or on your due date? I refuse to believe that some doctor's decision to induce my mother on a particular date had any bearing on my character!

Bobsmum · 07/07/2003 19:52

Just to add fuel to the fire. Horoscopes are a load of rubbish because the astrology they'te based on is completely outdated.

For example, when Ptolemy popularised astrology the sun rose in the Aries constellation between (what we would now call) 22 March and 20 April. Obviously that was nearly 2000 years ago. Things have changed because between March 22 and April 20, the sun now rises in the constellation of Pisces. Eventually it will rise in Aquarius.

Basically if you think you're an Aries, you're actually a pisces. A taurus is an Aries and so on.

Personally I think that the character traits given out by astrologers become self-fulfilling - people conveniently forget the ones that don't apply to them and latch on to the ones that apparently do.

SoupDragon · 07/07/2003 20:07

And that's another thing... I was always under the assumption that Aries started on 21st March. Not every horoscope agrees with this.

pie · 07/07/2003 20:08

Each to their own and all that, but personally this makes no sense to me!!

I mean you can aim for a certain star sign, and really not want a certain star sign, but say your baby was premature, would you bond less because you didn't like you the star sign? Do you think that ALL enter star sign here are the same and that parenting and individual relationships have no bearing or less significance than the star sign??

I'm not trying to make a judgement call on this, I just honestly don't understand that star signs can be part of how you plan for a baby when there are so many variables. Its a bit like aiming for one sex and then getting another. If it matters to you THAT much then how can you ever see the child as a person first and a star sign second??

Of course I may be reading into this wrong, and I honestly don't mean to say anything about anyone on this thread, just saying that I really don't get it!

fio2 · 07/07/2003 20:18

isnt this post very much tongue in cheek?

pie · 07/07/2003 20:25

Maybe it was!!! But I do know people in real life who have tried to conceive for similar reasons as mollymays so I guess I was taking it at face value. Especially as there were no smileys.

janh · 07/07/2003 20:31

soupie, 2 of mine were born 2/3 weeks early by Caesarian so I have always wondered that too.

However - bethatasitmay etc - consider your circle of friends - are they evenly spread throughout the year, birthday-wise, or does it happen that their birthdays are clustered? And if so are any of them the same as you? Just curious...

Also, re your DS's, they may have the same birth sign but their other "aspects" will be different and that affects their characters, especially the rising sign. I am not a superstitious person but definitely find something in astrological characteristics - not tongue in cheek at all - sorry!

Bobsmum - when I was at college (30 years ago) I had 2 "twins" in my class, I got one of those computer analysis things done and it was like them but not like me - now it is like me - maybe you grow into your sign!

(Now I will go away and put my head in a paper bag.)

fio2 · 07/07/2003 20:35

sorry pie I will have to remeber to put some smileys in in future

Bobsmum · 07/07/2003 21:29

janh - you said that maybe you grow into you sign - is that not then psychological rather than astrological?
Don't personality traits have far more to do with upbringing and family background rather than planetary bodies?

jasper · 07/07/2003 22:05

mollymay, stupid, no.
Daft, yes!
I have deliberately avoided looking up a chart to find out what starsigns my babies were born under.It's just so much baloney!
Good luck with getting pregnant.

SoupDragon · 07/07/2003 22:11

Personally I think there are lots of different personalities out there and lots of different traits attributed to starsigns so some are bound to match

Can anyone clarify whether it's your due date or birthdate? It simply makes no sense to me.

spacemonkey · 07/07/2003 22:16

Have to say it is completely silly to plan a pregnancy on the basis of the sign the sun will be in when the baby is due. If you're into astrology (and I don't mean newspaper horrorscopes) you'll know that the sign the sun is in is supposedly not all that evident in the personality, or not necessarily so anyway. As janh mentioned, it's supposed to be the ascending sign and the moon that are more obvious. But even that is simplifying matters to a ridiculous extent - people are incredibly complex beings, so planning a baby to be a certain star sign is just plain silly! IMHO

By the way, it's the moment you are actually born, not the due date that allegedly counts. So if you're induced, makes no difference, that is the moment you became a discrete identity in the world thus that is the moment the chart is cast.

Ghosty · 07/07/2003 23:11

What always does my head in is ... what if you are born in New Zealand at 12 midnight the 21st March but in the UK it is 12 noon 20th of March??? Are you Pisces or Aries???
I like the idea of horoscopes ... but really, we all know it is a load of tosh don't we?
I am supposedly a typical Pisces ... lover of water ... dreamy ... creative ...
But my brothers and my sister are all Gemini ... and according to my mum they are all typical ... but they are really really different in my opinion so what does it all mean??

spacemonkey · 07/07/2003 23:14

your birth chart is based on your geographical location ghosty, so it's whatever sign the sun was in where you were born

mollymay · 08/07/2003 10:08

Well that told me didn't it!

I knew that those people who think star signs are a load of old baloney would think I was daft!

Sorry not to have used smiley faces - I tend to use exclamation marks instead!!!

The question was tongue in cheek to a certain extent although I am not convinced that astrology is complete rubbish.

I have several relatives/friends of all a certain star sign and they all show very similar traits. One could argue that with the relatives it is because we come from the same family and share certain genes OR you could argue that it is because they share the same star sign.

I am a taurean. (and have to disagree with princesspeahead). My mum was a taurean and we had a wonderful relationship and rarely argued. My husband is also a taurean and we are very similar and don't argue any more than any other married couple. However, my character is quite passive and it just occurred to me that it might be easier to have another taurean child who was equally as passive!

As I am writing this I can hear you sceptics shouting that I may very well have a quieter child because it would share my/my husbands genes. And I agree. I have done a psychology degree and full understand the influence of nature/nuture.....BUT....what if...there is an element of truth in the starsigns...Wouldn't it make sense to seek a child nearer to your type of nature??!!

Please don't take all this too seriously. Obviously my first concern is the health and happiness of any child I may be blessed with but its food for thought isn't it....

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SoupDragon · 08/07/2003 12:04

Mollymay I hope you've not been offended!

pie · 08/07/2003 12:09

I too hope not to have offended you if it was all tongue in cheek!!! You can never tell sometimes when someone is being deadly serious or not I still think that those who are deadly serious (and I have meet a couple) are strange though.....

Bobsmum · 08/07/2003 12:17

Just out of curiosity then...

Can someone tell me how it is that completely unconnected stars which have no relation to each other, often millions of millions of miles apart, could possibly in anybody's mind have any bearing on the future of the minutiae of the lives of individual human beings on planet earth.

Constellations only appear to be linked together because of the position from which we view them. They do not affect our lives.

Bobsmum · 08/07/2003 12:17
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mollymay · 08/07/2003 13:02

I am not at all offended! I thank you for your opinions/views. It is after all, why I posted!!

Bobsmum - yes it seems far fetched and certainly we don't have any concrete evidence but without wanting to sound contraversial there are lot of things in life which are slightly surreal, i.e. religions..but it doesn't stop people believing in them does it......

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