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Accupunture.

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paperchase1 · 31/01/2010 19:52

Just wondered if any of you had tried accupuncture and become pregnant following it?

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FeedTheBeast · 08/02/2010 19:13

torshihunter in the north east go and see oriental health Laura who owns the practice is a friend of mine, but going on maternity leave soon, her colleauge will be able to help.

British Acupuncture Council (BAC) practitioners are great, but check they have done the extra training in fertility, and have a specialist interest in it as it is a very complex subject and needs an accurate chinese medicine diagnosis to result in successful treatment outcome. Association of Traditional Chinese medicine (ATCM-UK) are also ok, mostly Chinese practitioners, whereas BAC are mostly British.

HTH

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FeedTheBeast · 08/02/2010 19:35

Colleague. sorry for sp mistakes oops.

The question of it is all placebo, or just due to relaxing is interesting. I won't go into all the details behind the TCM theory and treatment principles, but relaxing is a very important aspect which cannot be overlooked, as at the most basic level, when the body is stressed (even if you are not aware of just how stressed you are- which is often the case!) sex hormones are suppressed as a non essential body process and an almost permanent state of 'fight or flight' ooccurs instead. This, as you can imagine, makes conception very difficult. I am by no means saying that it is the only contributary factor, or the only aspect that practitioners work on, but it is not to be dismissed as an irrelevant side effect of the treatment.

FeedTheBeast

oh and reference to the prevailing ethnic origins of members of the reulatory bodies in my previous post was for info only - (i mean i'm in the ATCM and British, not Chinese) it should have no real bearing on anything really- was just saying. Most important thing is a specialist interest in fertility.

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instantfamily · 08/02/2010 20:34

Doesn't it depend on why you are unable to conceive? My chinese doctor sent me to a western fertility doctor because no amount of acupuncture or TCM would have helped me to become pregnant.

I would agree that if it helps you to relax it is great but it may not get you to ovulate or whatever your problem may be.

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bethylou · 08/02/2010 20:43

TTC DS1 for 7 months. Got impatient and went for acupuncture and was pregnant after 4 (weekly) sessions. After DS1 was born, I was unable to wee for a month due to the birth. Went for acupuncture and weed within 36 hours of the first session! I am a convert. In June had a post-viral thing and went for a 'balancing session' to ty and sort myself out. Found out 4 weeks later that I was pregnant and we weren't even hoping to try again till the following month!! It's good stuff!

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iggi999 · 08/02/2010 20:45

Thanks to Tothesea for local knowledge, have made an appointment to see someone - no space though for a month!
FeedTheBeast, you said PPF herbs were pricey, what are the non prepared ones called then? (I'm not sure if you typed what you meant to, IYSWIM!)

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FeedTheBeast · 08/02/2010 21:38

instant family it does definatly depend upon the reason you cannot concieve to begin with. I did not mean to imply that the relaxation benefits were all it takes, only that relaxation was not an inconsequential side effect. Obtaining an accurate diagnosis in terms of Chinese Medicine and Orthodox medicine is imperative, which is why I have been emphasising the importance of only seeing a practitioner who has specialised in this field. Unlike many other holistic therapies, practitiones of chinese medicine receive thorough training in anatomy, pathology, pharmacology etc, etc, and can (and usually do) work alongside orthodox medical treatment.

iggi
PPF are ready made standardised formula in little pills which are usually around £5-£8 per pack (often last 1 week)They cannot be adapted. Powdered herbs (add to hot water) or 'raw' herbs which you boil to make a tea are more powerful and very effective (if a little bitter sometimes) can be prescribed to suit you perfectly (addition or subtraction of different herbs from the formula and in different quantities) and can cost around £12-15 per week minimum. These can be made into pills as well, for a little extra £.

It is possible to use a combination of PPF and powdered herbs, and the formulas used will be changed according to the stage of your cycle. ie, days 1-4, then 5-12, then ovulation, then luteal phase 15-28 (depending on the individual and their cycle obv.) PPF are still effective but cannot be personalised in the same way as raw or powdered herbs, but if cost is an issue they are a good option.

If you are about to start IVF cycle then you will prob not be offered herbs, but if you aren't, or are trying to prepare your body for IVF in future then you may be offered them. A typical minimum course of fertility treatment is 3 months (due to length of time for follicle to develop from antral cells 120 days), although happily some people conceive much sooner than this.

does that make any more sense lol??

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iggi999 · 08/02/2010 21:43

Thank you very much for taking the time to write all that for me, FTB. 'tis another world to me, knew nothing about it!
Conception probably isn't my difficulty, more hoping the next one will decide to stick around - hoping accupuncture could be beneficial with that too, and (if all is successful) helping me have a less crap pregnancy (sickness,carpal tunnel etc etc) than last time round!

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FeedTheBeast · 08/02/2010 21:50

this book has a terrible title but it explains wonderfully the TCM view of fertility treatments in laymans terms and has lots of self help ie questionnaires to get your TCM diagnosis, foods to eat or avoid for your 'syndrome', (ie deficinent, blood stagnation, etc)

I recommend it to my patients who find it very useful.

this site has lots of clinical research on acu for fertility, clinic is based in Oz but the founder is a leader in the field.

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FeedTheBeast · 08/02/2010 21:52

Your welcome! happy to waffle on about this subject for hours but i try and restrain myself

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iggi999 · 08/02/2010 21:52

Cool. (Something for me to research in the quiet bits at work tomorrow!!)

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Bumpless · 08/02/2010 23:02

Been having acupuncture for over a year with very skilled and insightful fertility specialist. Unfortunately hasn't got me pregnant, but it's definitely held me together during 3 IVF cycles and helped me recover after each failure, sometimes quite dramatically. I think she's almost as frustrated as me that we're still not there!

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chocolatejunkie · 09/02/2010 09:04

I got pregnant with DD after 3 or 4 sessions of acupuncture after 13 months of TTC with no success. I found it really relaxing as by that point I was getting really stressed about being unable to conceive and felt noticeably more chilled out after each session. But I think there is much more to it than just relaxation.

My waters broke 6 hours after a treatment to get labour moving. And during labour I used acupressure points described on this brilliant website acupuncture.rhizome.net.nz/ which worked really well up until the point we discovered DD was an undiagnosed breech baby and I was whisked off for a CS.

I'm having more treatments now as after 5 months TTC with one early miscarrige and hoping I get a similar result. I would echo that it's worth finding someone who specialises in fertility.

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AxisofEvil · 09/02/2010 11:53

I tried one session but decided it wasn't really for me. I didn't really click with the acupuncturist though (came highly recommended on here so others clearly liked him) so might consider trying again with someone else if we don't get anywhere.

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excitedfirsttimer · 09/02/2010 12:16

I fell pregnant after one session of accupuncture, so for me I an convinced it worked, we had been trying for 1 year

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Loujalou · 09/02/2010 12:36

Can anyone recommend someone in Hertfordshire as I would like to give it ago after 10 months of trying. Thanks

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excitedfirsttimer · 09/02/2010 12:48

sorry the lady I saw was in london, try this website
www.acupuncture.org.uk/about-us/find-an-acupuncturist.html

I just looked for one near where I lived, then looked at their website, the lady I went to specialised on fertility and had a lot of positve testimonials on her website from people with happy bouncing babies so I though it was worth a try and I am now 8 weeks pregnant, I still can't belive it!

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Bumpless · 09/02/2010 13:59

Loujalou I'm in Herts and my therapist is near Hitchin - any good for you? can't recommend her highly enough - don't be put off by my scambled eggs! She's called Julie Tant and she's accredited by Zita West. not sure if I'm allowed to put her number on here!

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Loujalou · 09/02/2010 14:01

I will google her. You are probably not too far from me then. I might give her a go.

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Loujalou · 09/02/2010 14:02

I was going to try someone at Ginger in St Albans. Not sure if anyone has given her a go? That or the Verulam clinic...

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AbiAbi · 09/02/2010 14:30

Seshi - thanks so much, will give her a call now! Thanks

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thefatladyscreams · 09/02/2010 14:34

Loujalou - not sure where you are but I can highly recommend Lily Liu at Accupuncture and Herbs. She works out of Hemel, Tring and Berkhamsted and is a fertility expert plus so understanding and supportive. Let me know if you need any more details.

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TiredTiredTired · 09/02/2010 18:21

I didn't use it to get pregnant, but once you are pg and if you're suffering from tiredness and morning sickness, I can totally recommend having a few sessions - it sorted me right out!

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nuttysquirrel · 09/02/2010 20:56

I became pregnant, after trying for 2 and a half years trying, after one session of acupuncture. I recommended a friend to the same practitioner, who had had two miscarriages in succession, and she now has a little boy. She recommended four friends & work colleagues who had all been having problems (various issues) they all became pregnant and had children. Errr so yes I do think it works!

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gumblossom · 10/02/2010 04:01

Yes, at the age of 41, ttc 7 months and got pregnant. I am sure the acupuncture helped. I know it made a big difference to my period - I had to take pain meds, but with regular acupuncture the pain and cramping went away. It was worth it just for that! It also helped alleviate the stress of ttc.

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chandellina · 10/02/2010 08:38

i love alternative treatments but it didn't work for me (tried it for about 8 months, with two different people, with and without IVF simultaneously).

It didn't help much with other things though either, such as my broken sleep at the time. Basically it seemed to have no effect on me, but I think even acupuncturists acknowledge there is a small minority of people it just doesn't seem to help.

FWIW, i had reflexology a few times (before all the acupuncture and IVF malarky) and fell pregnant right away but then miscarried.

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