The Hut of Gl/Doom... Please don't ask about our reproductive plans as a smack round the head with TCOYF often offends

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new thread.

for those who are having problems getting pg

or staying pg

or are simply fed up of being told to relax and having to smile and say "you never know"

Thanks ladies

Rainbow - I remember after my m/cs it was one of the few times I was pleased that my period had arrived and I was another stage along the process...

Lissie - how ironic re your skin! Got everything crossed for you (though not legs )

Argggg, I am still just spotting, af has not properly arrived yet. But the good news is I did loose some blood from my arm today , I had blood tests for recurrent miscarriage, so although we are fully expecting the tests to come back normal, decided that should get checked just in case. Did mean that dh had to get blood test too!!!! Dh had been away for the weekend and just got back, I want a shag for shags sake, but not sure whether I should, having had all the advise about avoiding sex while bleeding during m/c due to risk of infection etc, I would be safe wouldn't I?!! oh the things I discuss here!!!!

Hi rainbow. Very annoying that af is taking her time coming...

Good news about the tests - I had them in Jan for peace of mind, more than anything else and came back borderline for the killer cells test, so have been taking steroids from ov to af, though I think omega 3 is also supposed to help. I also take a junior asprin a day, as my consultant says while it isn't proven that it does anything, won't do me any harm.

Tricky one re the shag. DH is quite squeamish so it has never been something I've thought about. On the basis the spotting is AF I would have thought it would be ok?

hi all, rainbows, sounds like a good idea to get the tests done. as heebee says try the asprin, just in case. tbh i wouldn't have sex until you get a bfn. if only to be on the safe side.

good news here, had 2 mature follicles (1 on each side) and 2 immature ones on tubeless side. womb lining was 9mm (was only 6mm last month) so all systems go. dh got a start date for RAF - 11/02/10 woo hoo!!

Lissie - that's great news! Go for it

My private consultant who I see about the recurrent m/c spoken to my NHS consultant yesterday about me doubling my dose of tamoxifen and they both agree I should do it.

BUT I can't do it on the NHS (increased risk of multiple births and something about monitoring) so I have tightened my belt and agreed to do it privately. At least i won't be advised not to try if there are too many follicles!!!

thats good news! i was advised last month to abstain, did we? did we buggery!

Lissie - great to hear you got good news, hope that you are shagging well despite the mood swings.

Heebee - Hope that the increase in drugs does the job for you.

I think I have progressed onto light flow . Not sure but it is now red and a bit more. It seems mentally I was so prepared for a heavy af with painful cramps that this half-hearted af is not giving me the cathartic emotional end to the m/c that I was expecting. Oh well just more mental torture from my own body. But it is also happening exactly two years to the day to my first confirmed miscarriage.

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Rainbow - that so hard I hope af either ends or gets heavier soon.. My 2nd m/c happened exactly 1 year to the day that my dad died. I still don't understand why life is so cruel sometimes..

shrek my scans (both on clomid and tamoxifen) have been been between days 11-13 of my cycle (so 6-8 days after taking the tablets). I tend to go for day 13 as I ov anywhere between days 14 and 18

rainbows, thanks. the prob is that the last thing i want to do is have sex and working tonight, but CD13 scan tomorrow so must be done. hope that af arrives properly

shreks, i had my 1st tracking scan on CD10.

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Shreks - wish we could all think that it is quiet here because we are all in a positive frame of mind with ooddles of hope, but I suspect the opposite is true for all of us. Apathy is the feeling I have at the moment, haven't got the energy for anything else.

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just want to be gloomy for a bit so glad the hut is still going (or is glad pushing it? relieved anyway)

Sorry I did not see this message earlier, can we help with listening?

Thanks just wanted somewhere to hide out and drink myself stupid drown my sorrows. Feeling cross with myself that I let myself get my hopes up this month.

i take it everyone else is feeling shitty. why is everyone pg? seriously? everywhere i look i see bumps and newborns. in the meantime i have ds asking why he cant have a baby brother or sister. i feel like screaming because your mummy has a crappy body and fucks up being pg everytime.

im so tired.

It is true everyone else is pg, even my dh commented the other day saying it, and he being male would never normally notice pregnant women and babies.

I am eating like a pig and scoffing all the wrong foods and making myself fat. I know subconsciously it is because I want a fat pg belly. But it is not helping my chances of getting pg by going from overweight to nearly obese!

Lissie, sorry you are having such a lousy time of it at the moment. You are sounding very depressed about it all. Wish there was some way of helping other than just the virtual absinthe!

nomore - it is so hard to not get hopes up sometimes, our bodies like to fool us and taunt us.

All I can do here is listen while we drink.

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shreks, do you have another scan? how are you finding the clomid? i have been particularly psychotic this month! ikwym though about it being impossible to have the "right" sex. we dont have sex after ov anymore, just in case and so only really have a window of 10d, if one of us is ill, we're screwed!

rainbow its totally understandable to comfort eat.

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It is official - the world is pregnant. And last month was my due date.

I had my scan which showed that despite me taking double the dose of tamoxifen, I still only had 1 egg (a good size, but only 1 nonetheless). Also, it was on the left side which is the 2nd month in a row that the right side hasn't produced anything. So now I have to self-inject myself with something on days 3, 5, 7 and 9 to try and galvanise it into action. Also, my uterine lining was only 7mm so am on progesterone supplements. So the steroids are making me irritable and the progesterone is supposed to (as a side effect) get rid of pmt. My hormones have no idea whether they are coming or going.

Shrek - the clomid (or the tamoxifen which I'm on now) didn't change the day I ov'd - it stayed pretty much the same as it has always been (obviously no help to you!). Did you manage to do the deed before you went on holiday?

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Thank you!

I wouldn't rule out hope then - as I understand it they can last 72 hours so your day 13 attempt may have done the job!

I know what you mean about precision sex. As I'm going private at the moment (the NHS think I'm doing fine, but the private guy I was seeing about the m/cs thought I should double the dose, which I can't do on the NHS) gave me an injection which released the egg 24 hours later. It was nice to have that uncertainty taken away for once.. Didn't relieve the pressure though, which is more of the problem in our house! Do you remember having sex just for the fun of it?

god, sex rather than an attempt at procreation... i think i remember it... and being able to go to sleep after instead of sticking your bum in the air... i ov'd on CD17 last month but period was 6d late. v annoying, but clomid increases progesterone too, and i need the help on that side.

heebee, was it the HCG trigger you had? my left side is dominant too, unfortunately its tubeless but they wont discount any eggs from there because they can travel (yeah right) and this month 2 eggs from bad side released on CD14 while lovely big follie on good side was still there. am v annoyed.

shreks, my cons said i would be fertile from CD10-CD17 on clomid so sounds like you gave it a good shot, sperm can live up to 4d (the girlies anyway) so not lost at all!

at work today saw a pg woman with 2yo dd. woman slapped dd and called her a scrote. its so unfair i want to cry.