The Hut of Gl/Doom... Please don't ask about our reproductive plans as a smack round the head with TCOYF often offends

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new thread.

for those who are having problems getting pg

or staying pg

or are simply fed up of being told to relax and having to smile and say "you never know"

Just saw this on active convos and popped in to drop off vodka and mini eggs.

lissie, can't they give you a long dose of antibiotics to kill off the gbs or a low dose when you get a bfp ?

I'm not ttc, most definatly not. I've been told that if we did want another I'd be on antibiotics all the way through cos of having my 2 early. I had gbs last time and they told me I didn't need antibiotics in labour as the antibiotics I was taking cos of the prom would be keeping it under control.

Might be worth considering ?

Hello to everyone else xx

i have pleaded with my cons to prescribe AB's for me but his answer is that GBS is only a problem in labour (despite it getting into my uterus and lying there untreated for over a week) and when i last mc'd the symptoms were just like they were straight after having ds (high temp, flu-like symptoms, dizziness) but what do i know i even took in copies of research done in the US whereby women who'd suffered uterine GBS and subsequent rmc were given low dose ABs during pg and those pg's were successful.

it's not fair is it

Do you know which antibiotics they used in the states and at which dose ?

Are you not ttcing at the moment ?

It's a shame about your dh. How can they make him wait a year ?!

i dont know, will see if i can find it again. my gp wont prescribe ABs during pg without my cons's say so and he refuses. he also refuses to try progesterone. or steroids. instead i have to use heparin which im certain wont work AAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!

we arent really ttc at the mo, trying to decide what to do. im terrified of getting up the stick again. dh is gutted about the RAF, he has 2 interviews this week though so hopefully we will be ok.

how are you anyway?

You you ask for a refferal to prof regan ? You've been through enough to deserve one I think

I'm fine thanks. Life is ticking over nicely I'm getting married in may then we're going to turkey in June for our first family holiday I can't wait !

I can't blame you being worried about a bfp. Having multiple losses or pregnancy problems itcompletly ruins the whole experience. It's not fair

• queen - I wish I could bring you here to be with my GP. You would get everything you need with them. If your instincts are that it is the GBS that is the cause, then can't you find a GP who would be willing to prescribe you the a/b's? If not then if you do find yourself pg again soon, then try the old garlic clove thing. You might be avoided by loads of people, but if it worked to keep the gbs at bay a bit..... Sorry my ranting is not helping is it. so here is some more absinthe.

Julez - sorry to hear you are struggling at the moment too, do you have a favorite Hut drink that we can bring you?

worzel, thats great news, congratulations! tbh im a bit fed up of being re-referred every 5 mins, plus cant afford prof reagan.

rainbows, the problem isnt my gp, its my cons. even the RMC nurse said that AB's would be worth a shot but he wont listen.

am particularly down today because of earliness of period.

Rainbows - thank you, my fave drink is lemonade or wine....

Lissie I'm sorry your feeling sucky today. I'm having a hard day today, DS2 is 3 tomorrow and most deffinately not a baby anymore.

Lissie, can you change consultant? or hospital? I live in Bridgend and I wasnt happy with what Bridgend was doing for me so I asked to be referred to Cardiff, that was 4 years ago and I am much more supported there! and tbh I want to pucnh your consultant when you suffered as many mic's as we have you try anything

I am still awaitinf AF, not TTC at the moment because I Will be having more investigations over the coming months but I am hoping in 6 months time we can go again. Luckily we have no problem getting preg just cant seem to keep hold of them.

I have to go visit my friends new born this week. I am pretty sure it'll break me

i hate seeing friends with new babies. I always try to get out of it.

we were referred to LWH a while back to try their RMC (before our local PCT set one up) and it was useless. got the "try to relax, bad luck, but if you have ££££ we can do an NKC test on you"

~Rainbowdays slumps in and drops down onto a beanbag, pulls a fleese around her fatness and tries to go to sleep. Spotting started following 3 days of cramps.

oh shit. have you called EPU?

Back from EP-Useless.... I had scan, which two weeks ago showed heartbeat, and progressing ok. Today, well the doc could find the gestational sac.... but nothing else. ARRGGGGG. I should not have bothered going into them, I only wanted to know if I should continue the asprin while bleeding. Now I have to go back tomorrow for another scan. Pass me the chocolates someone...

shit, shit, shit.

OH NO

Fingers crossed for you rainbow

I am a feeling really low at the mo- cons appt was last week and he ARGUED with me about my endo pain, sayin it was actually ovulation. I said 'no, I don't ovulate then'- he then proceeded to tell me that I cant possibly know when I ovulate- its impossible to know.

Anyway, been referred for egg share IVF- could take up to 4 months to start, so am getting body primed up.

littletortie, i hate consultants. the worst one was a mc cons who used the full range of cop outs from "its just bad luck" to "go on holiday" 10 mc's is NOT bad luck. losing a tube is NOT bad luck. mcing at the same point with fever and illness is NOT bad luck. and I dont even have an MD!

He was such a prick, I can't even begin to tell you....

He was absolutely desperate for us to NOT egg share as well and start IVF straight away privately, which we cant afford. I said 'no, I want to donate some eggs, I have wanted to for a long time'- cue disgusted look and a long wait apparently

He also told me that my last laparoscopy was a real mess- tube and ovary were stuck to my bowel. However, the guy who did the op said all was normal and reproductive organs were not involved in the adhesion. So dont know what to think now Half wondering whether to call them tomorrow for clarification what would you do?

I think it is something to do with medical training that they feel that if they don't have the answers that giving "reassuring" words that are meaningless, is somehow better than them saying "we don't know". Doctors are bullsh1ters at the best of times, at the worst they are a down-right hinderance.

Queenie - you know what is wrong, I just wish that you could find a consultant that would be willing to help you deal with the issue.

littletortie - I think that calling for clarification will only lead to the doc prevaricating with you. I think you should believe the guy who did the op, if he said it was ok, he was the one looking at it, believe him.

doctors should not be allowed to force people into doing things they don't want or preventing people from trying things they think will work.

Rainbowdays - I am so sorry you are having a crap time atm thinking of you

little - I would call them, you need to know. That cons sounds like a prize twat as well grr!

Lizzie - hope your doing ok.

Another of my friends have announced they are pregnant. I am happy for her but its like a kick to the stomach for me.

I am however still waiting for my period to come back! With all my mc's period has arrived 28 days later, I am always on time to the hour with my period so who knows.

I got very drunk last night so have been moping around today.

littletortie, i agree with rainbows.

rainbows, how are you today my lovely? when is the scan?

julez, that pants there are times when i hate the person that FTC has made me into.

Decided to take both peices of advice!!

Phoned the clinic and spoke to the lead nurse who is concerned that I have been left wondering what the results actually are and we are going to meet on Wednesday- she is going to read through the theatre notes with me and explain it all to me- exactly word for word what has been written down. If any clarification is needed after that, I can make an appt to see the lead cons. I am happy with that. Answers hopefully finally!!!

Oh, good luck for today rainbows xxx

Good luck for today rainbows.

Tortie - glad you got answers!!!

My period has arrived, its not majorly heavy like it normally is but It is VERY painful. I've had a hot bath, taken hardcore pain killers which have helped a bit.

Just patiently waiting for my appt from the RCM centre at cardiff.

CAn anyone recommend any books on mc? I have read lesley reagans book a while ago which helped slightly.

I know I shouldnt be doing it but I am beating myself up about the whole thing now. My most recent mc was xmas just gone dragged out a bit, I didnt even cry this time. Well I did when I was in the scan room but even then that didnt feel like real crying. I was just nimb mostly and thinking "here we go again"

how did it go sweetheart?

I have another little angel watching over me, or still inside me. The heartbeating two weeks ago, is now still. There was some growth in the two weeks, s/he has little arm and leg buds now, but the heart is still. I am now have gone from spotting to light bleeding so I am guessing that with stopping the progesterone now, that it will all be passed in the next couple of days. Tonight I am having a korma and glass of wine. Here I will stay hugging the fleese and hope that the emotional pain passes soon. If I go silent for a few days, I think you will all understand.

oh, my lovely xxx