my first time on here can u help please, test results from doc have come back all normal after 14 months of trying, can anyone advise please please please?

[sighingatthethought]

All results from my doc have come back normal. I have had acupuncture to rebalance hormones and have been baby dancing loads. DH and I have both had lots of tests and everything is normal.

Is there anything else I can do to boost/ enhance my chances? I am going to stop bbt charting its driving me insane x

I am not an expert by any means but saw your thread and was wondering whether you have had any tests to check your tubes?

Stop charting by all means if it is driving you mad. There's no point of adding to the pressure...

Hi sighing

What tests have you had done and do you know when in the month you ovulate? Are you peeing on sticks?

I have had a few glassed of wine now (trying to cheer myself up!) they offered me keyhole surgery to look at my tubes, or leave it for another 6 - 12 months...I thought keyhole seemed a bit invasive and drastic? So I am booked in 6 months time to revisit if nothing else happens

have had blood tests to check hormones and ovulation, and dh had tests to check his count. I also do ov kits and they do tell me when I surge so we know when to baby dance etc and this is confirmed by my CM, but nothing is happening x

Hi, sighing,
has your DH/DP has a seminal analysis done? This would normally be done before you'd have to go through any invasive tests.

Well that all sounds really good. They can check your tubes with a HSG (a bit of dye squirted up your cervix) which is much less invasive

I would say get your name down for any tests they are offering. How many months have you been trying for?

And by all means have a few glasses of wine. My fertility consultant said that is fine (hence why i have a glass of rose as i type )

OK, two questions to start:

1. How old are you?
2. How often are you having sex?

hi sighing,

I think something could well have been missed here by your GP and after 14 months of ttc you as a couple should be referred to a subfertility unit at hospital.

Re your comment:-

"I have had blood tests to check hormones and ovulation, and dh had tests to check his count. I also do ov kits and they do tell me when I surge so we know when to baby dance etc and this is confirmed by my CM, but nothing is happening.

I would ask what hormone levels were looked at and on what days in the cycle. I would also ask how many semen analysis were done (probably only one). One semen analysis is not sufficient; these tests should be repeated. Your blood tests should also be repeated. If any of these tests were done over 6 months ago these results should be discounted. You both need up to date test results along with a diagnosis.

Ov kits are problematic in their own right and ovulation does not automatically follow a LH surge. It is quite possible to have more than one LH surge throughout the month. Forget CM as well; this can actually be a poor indicator.

I would ask for a referral asap - think they are stalling you currently by asking you to wait another six months. Its actually unacceptable.

Would not have lap unless advised by the cons gynae that this is advised; as mentioned by makingafamily a HSG test can be done instead and would be less invasive. It is a tubal x-ray and is a useful test to have done. Any deformities inside the tube can be seen on x-ray; it can also provide information not easily accessible by other methods like the lap.

You will need to be persistant in order to get answers. Do not be fobbed off!!!.

AT 14 months of ttc anyway you are well beyond the stage of either using charting or OPK's. You should be both further investigated as a couple to establish the underlying problem/s.

If your periods are either irregular, very heavy and or painful in nature then further investigation is certainly warranted.

I would insist to your GP that you are referred asap to the specialists at the subfertility unit. They would want to see you as a couple now.

I saw a doctor after 14 months of ttc as I was worried and he was the most reassuring doctor I had ever seen. He said that the UK was the only place he had ever worked where they worried about fertility testing after 12 months of ttc. He said the norm in all other countries was 2 years (this assuming a healthy, youngish couple with no medical problems). This made sense he said considering the chances of conception if you do everything right, are super healthy and have sex at exactly the right time are only 25-30%. He said we expected to get pregnant too easily and years of worrying about missed pills and split condoms makes us think that it's easier than it is.

Anyway, I'm not being dismissive, just trying to reassure you that it can be normal and there might be absolutely nothing wrong.

You must of course, for your own peace of mind, do whatever you feel necessary and if you feel there is a problem or you would like further tests then ask your GP.

Took us 3.5 yrs the first time (now have 2 dc plus one m/c under my belt).

My suggestion is to look at your diets. Both give up alcohol, you give up caffeine, and eat nice healthy food. Also recommend a zinc supplement for your dh.

Hi Sighing,

I would definitely push for a regerral to a fertility unit.

If you have regular periods/ovulation, your husband's sperm is fine and you are both healthy and have been trying for 14 months then there is defiitely something which is being missed in your medical work-up.

Any top fertility specialist would say that 14 months is not normal and definitely warrants further investigation -- especially because in the world of fertility, time is always of the essence. If you have to eventually embark on any sort of fertility treatments the younger you are, the better.

The comforting thought is that there is SO much that can be done nowadays to help couple's concieve.

p.s. I would also definitely ask for an HSG to check your tubes....it is an incredibly easy procedure which can sometimes help "clear things out" and many couples concieve naturally soon after.

Hi Sighingatthethought and Good Luck.

Thought I'd add in my twopence worth...

In my 30's and took me 10months + to conceive my LO and the only reason we DID conceive I am convinced was because of the random erm... 'position' we did it in at the right time....

TMI probably but maybe try straddling DP while he sits on a chair or somesuch... I think it got his part of the process a bit er... deeper.. than we normally get it when it is delivered....

I am now trying to conceive our second baby... and again its taking AGES.... so might have to take my own advice... and I would if DP hadn't hurt his back very badly recently!!

Fingers crossed for you anyway!

xxx