but in a 30 ish day cycle do you think it is likely to be later than day 14? Too lazy to do temps/opks and don't seem to get much cm at any time of cycle - never have really. Have dd1 (2 and a half) so hopefully no major probs (am 35 and lucky that periods came straight back after coming off pill last Oct). I think may just try and bd alt days from day 8 as someone suggested on another thread - but usu knackered on the weekdays I work (erm therefore too knackered to have another baby I wonder??????)