Vasectomy reversal success??

[terrier141]

Does anyone have experience of this? Hubby has just had it done and we are nervously awaiting the outcome!

Hey terrier thats great! 27 mil is more than dh had at 10 months so must be good! Does it say anywhere how many milliletres of seminal fluid were produced as this is important. If poss can you type up exactly what the results sheet says even if it makes no sense? then I can have a proper see whats going on?

As for improving things he needs to take zinc 3 times per day a really high dosage, L-carnytine, L arginine, selenium, vit e, B12 and vit c. Or something like zita west mens fertility tablets (but they are soooo expensive) Eating a handful of brazil nuts every day (i put em in dh lunch box) and only BDing every other day.

Try and get the exact results up and I will examine more closely xxxxxxxxxx

Thanks pink.

Here goes:
Appearance: Normal
Liquefication (within 1 hour): Complete
Consistency: Viscous
pH: 7.9
Round/WBC (million/ml): 0
Volume (ml): 3.2
Concentration (million/ml): 27.0
Morphology/normal (%): 8
Motility (A- rapid progressive%): 0
Motility (B- sluggish progessive): 1
Motility (C- Non progressive): 15
Motility (D- Immotile): 84

Think the amount is fine, he produced 3.2ml and needs to be at least 2ml?

Thanks for the vitamin advice! Will get to the shops asap (I'll tell him its his valentines day present!)
What do you reckon on improvement though? Cant really remember what the consultant told us - think he said around 12-18mths was average to reach potential?
What do you think about testing for anti-bodies? Wasnt this an issue in your case?

Thank you Dr.Pink!!

xx

Just did a it of internet research - looks like it is usually between 12-24mths for things to be any good - although it can take up to 82mths to achieve pregnancy!!

The reason I asked you to post that is, when the gp and even the nhs consultant, fed back the results to dh and I, he stated that the total count was the count per ml if you get what I mean. Like on dh's most recent nhs analysis they said he has 15.7mil per mil (had gone up to 18.3 at private test - yay!) and on the printout it looks like this but when we went to the private clinic he spent some time explaining the rsults from the sperm test they did there and it turns out that that 15.7 is divided by the number of milliletres, so in that sperm test that was 5.23 mil per ml (who guidelines are 20 million per ml) (therefore your dh's are prob 9 mil per ml)I picked up on this and was angry and upset as you can imagine that we had been misinformed for so long :-( So it looks like your DH results are still double what my dh's were at 15 months post op so that really positive!

Yes the anti-bodies were a problem, apparently at least 70% of reversal men have anti-sperm antibodies, so for the gp to say ts not an issue is utter...well..bollocks! When you look into what anti-bodies do to sperm, I knew in my heart of hearts that dh n
must have them as they affect motility/morphology and DH's were both bad, but you trust the consultant! How stupid was I! DH has 100% antibodies so none of the little buggers can move!

I think you are right, I would get your dh on the vits and re-test in 3 months. But once you have got to about 18 months trying I would ask to be referred. Good luck hun! xx

I should add that anti-bodies dont completely stop sperm from moving (as my last post seems to suggest) for example, in the test that showed 11.7 million sperm there was 20% motility and 10% normal morhology...but although we didn't know it at the time there was 100% of the sperm bound with antibodies which stops them being able to penetrate an egg. Now I need to find out where the anti-bodies are attached to (head, midsection or tail) as this also makes a big difference to things. God who knew I would end up knowing sooo much about sperm! LOL!

Thanks pink - god now im really confused! Think I need to see consultant again! That is really odd about the concentration though, cos like you said it states million/ml which I took to mean how many million were in each ml! Really looks like it would be because the guidelines on the bottom are in the same format.
Now you got me worried about antibodies though cos dh's morphology and motility are both crap too!
Guess I'll wait the 3 mths and see what happens, but will as consultant about antibodies in the meantime as the gp is crap!
Thanks again!

Yes my printouts also state "15.7 mil/ml (or 18.3 or whtever) but the private consultant explained it to us and thats the overall count...I could be wrong bout yours and both the gp and the nhs consultant interpreted it like you and I but apparently not....but like I said maybe yours is different. Try not to worry about anti bodies just yet. Give the 3 months of vits and then ask the consultant for a more detailed analysis that includes anti-bodies...if you've not caught by then

Thanks for the welcome all. Looks like you guys really know your stuff all seems a little complicated to me!!
Consultation next thursday and hoping that the consultant can offer dh some words of wisdom. He's terrified and sure that something awful is gonna happen to him, trying to reassure him without sounding as if I'm belittling him but I'm no doctor!
Well, onwards and upwards!
Stay happy, keep smiling!

The big day today, he's off for the op this evening, I'm more nervous than him lol
Fingers crossed

Sorrento good luck to your dh for his op this evening.

my dh is recovering well he has an infection but nothing the antibiotics wont deal with. hope every one else is ok.

Good luck Sorrento hope all goes well this evening!
Sunshine how is your dh feeling? How long has he been instructed to rest for? My dh is a little worried thinking that he'll be bed bound for months! I'm sure that armed with a little bell he'll milk it for all its worth!
Any words of wisdom that I can pass on to him would be greatly received I'm sure!

Have just spoken to him, he is wearing a padded cod piece and sounds bright enough, he's booked an interview and an assessment centre for next monday so it doesn't sound like he's planning to stay in bed for long.
I can't imagine for a moment it's any worse than the vasectomy itself, can you ?

Hi Sorrento how is dh tonight? hope everything is ok.

pixiejazz dh was told to wear 2 pairs of the brief style underwear day and night for the first 10 days and the just during the day for the following week to give support. Dh was told to take 3 weeks of work as he has a very heavy lifting type of job, but to be honest he is board now and wishes he was back in work. He thinks he is well enough to go back to work now but they wont let him as he has a infection now. Dh was told to spend the first 3 days lying down as apposed to sitting up so as not to put any pressure on himself. (although walking around is fine) I encouraged him to get his own drinks ect just to keep him mobile. I kept everything in reach so the was no bending or stretching. ( but my dh had a blood clot two years a go so cant afford not to keep mobile iyswim)

Blimey sunshine that sounds hard work alround, my DH is sat playing his PS and seems happy as, the general knocked him about a bit but his actual manhood doesn't seem to be troubling him, although he is drugged up.

Any news anyone ???

Thanks both, sounds really reassuring will pass that on to my dh and hope it makes him feel a little less nervous!! Consultation day after tomorrow so hoping that we come home feeling a little bit more in the know as op booked for four weeks time!
Hope the healing process continues to go ok and fingers crossed for some good news in the near future!

Hi everyone,
How are the patients today?? Hope they are being well looked after!
xx

Mines loading the dishwasher

Hi all,
Just got back from consultation after a 13 hour round trip! Bum still numb from being in the car so long but well worth it! Seems that it looks fairly positive although I'm sure that's what they say to everyone! Apparently a good chance as dh tubes were cut rather than burnt so makes rejoining much easier. He went through stats re blow out and the percentages etc but he seemed really nice and feel a lot more reassured. He thinks that dh is gonna be living the life of luxury as he's booked a month off work to recover! I'm sure that will be the case although I have noted Sorrento that yours has been up and about!!
Well next step is operation on the 25th March so counting down now!
Take care everyone xx

Can I have a big rant please about the hospital when I get back from the school run ?

sorrento - whats up with the hospital??

pixiejazz - sounding good!!

hi everyone. Ive just payed for dhs op so he cant change his mind now Its next wed so Im getting a bit excited about it in a nervous way if that makes sense. Dh just keeps thinking what he could have spent £2500 on instead that wouldnt have involved him being in pain like a motorbike .
Hope everyones doing well and there was nothing wrong with sorrentos Dh.

kellykateneedsaholiday good luck for next week.

sorrento hope you are ok?

pixiejaz good luck to dh for 25th.

Hi terrier hope everything if ok with you to.

My dh is back in work tomorrow. Im very excited we ttc now but also worried it will not be as easy as I hope.

Oh he's fine, thanks for asking.
Am really fed up with the hospital because they said they need blood from me on day 1 of my period and day 21.
Well day 1 in December was the 3rd and so 21 was Christmas eve, no way was I treking accross town then, so they said don't worry come in January and I forgot
So we get to Febuary and it turns out they don't need it at all, (saved me another £150, am sure they make it up as they go along) and it's unlikely I'll have embroy's ready to implant in May (which would have given me my Feb baby).
I know it's hardly the end of the world, am much more chilled about it, but Feb would have worked really well for us and there was no reason why we couldn't have had feb either so was just pissed off. His went well I think he's up and about and a bit sore.

Rant over Kelly there's no going back now ;-)

Sorrento so sorry the hospital are messing you around, have they said when the eggs will be ready for them to implant?

Well no this is the thing they haven't even got the eggs out yet and it all just seems to be taking forever, plus the hospital is moving in April so it would have been close anyway.
Am resigned to it being an April baby now ;-)
I guess as long as we get there in the end and it'll mean we can go to a family thing is Australia at Christmas so maybe it'll all work out, bout time something went right lol

How are you, when will you be able to start TTC have they said ?