TTC after chemical pregnancy 2

[LucyCL]

I am tagging the ones who are still actively posting on the previous thread
@Carportforme
@Northernsoul90
I should have known we could only post for 40 pages on the previous thread TTC after chemical pregnancy. If the others from the previous thread would like to join in, please feel free to do so. Also I don't want to tag anyone who is not willing to continue to post on this new thread.

Morning all, feeling fed up today... got a totally stark white BFN on a cheapy this morning with second morning urine. 12dpo. I think I'm out this cycle keep getting a pinching pain on my right hand side and been feeling very stressed and PMS like this week.

This was cycle 4 since chemical and starting to get disillusioned, I'm going to get back to healthy eating and exercise this next cycle and try not to get so hyper focused on ttc. I have a couple of stone to lose but haven't been able to get motivated as ttc. I'm considering giving it until Christmas and then maybe going to the GP to see if any tests can be done. Hope everyone is okay today, sending baby dust x

Absolutely, 100% agree. I’m just not in the mood! I want to grab them by the hair pinned him against the wall and shout in their faces!!

Hello, sorry you’re feeling somewhat miserable at the moment. It’s interesting but I have found that when I do get a BFP (for all the good they seem to have done me) they always seem to come after a month when I have felt particularly let down by everything that’s not happening.

They seem to kind of creep up on me so hopefully one will creep up on you very very soon and stick.

I am somewhat relieved to be bleeding from my chemical/early miscarriage now.
Was in agony yesterday morning but things are slowly improving. I was rather worried about having another MMC as my progesterone was high. I didn’t want my body holding onto a non-viable pregnancy like it did last year. Got an appointment with a specialist next week having managed to get a bank loan to pay for some private tests.
I do suspect that I have some kind of immune issue. I still begrudge other peoples ease of conception and pregnancies hugely And psychologically it is not doing me any favours to feel this way but I just need to find out if and what the issue is if I can.

@Carportforme I know that feeling, as heartbreaking as it is you just want it to be over with. Did you find out you had high progesterone through bloods? I'm wondering if my hormones are imbalanced as I have quite a few of the symptoms.

When I had my MMC my body didn't recognise it at all even though the pregnancy had ended pretty much as soon as it had started. I had an early private scan at 9 weeks and found an empty gestational sac but measuring 9 weeks. I had to have surgical management and I was still having positives almost 10 weeks after the procedure it was so frustrating... the only time I've been wishing to see a negative. My body just didn't want to seem to register it, like as if my system is slow or something I don't know?

Im glad you have an appointment and can get the ball rolling with hopefully some kind of answers. I'm also right there with you with the other people being pregnant etc. I don't know if you have other children but when I had my MMC it was my first pregnancy and I found it even harder then, a different kind of frustration, longing and also envy. I still have those feelings but probably lessened slightly this time round... don't feel guilty about it, it's natural and only those who have gone through loss/infertility can understand. Be kind to yourself, it's a difficult time. I hope you get some answers at the specialist 🤞 x

Hello, we definitely have similarities! I was going to the EPU every couple of days last week because they wanted ton make sure my HCG levels were doubling, which they weren’t. When I got the secon result it had gone up by about 20 percent and with this one they had taken the progesterone measurement as well. They asked me if I was on Clomid since apparently my progesterone was very high compared to my HCG and they thought maybe I had released an egg from two different follicles and it was therefore a potential multiple pregnancy. A bit ridiculous I thought considering the low level of HCG! It wasn’t an out of range measurement generally but it was just very high in comparison they said.
My MMC was also my first pregnancy And like yours it came as a huge shock. My embryo was 6.2 weeks and my scan was at 6.3. Just stational sack was the right size so I was getting larger and had all symptoms but the embryo had died. I still can’t believe it happened sometimes. I had thought that I would be pregnant safely again by now even if I haven’t yet had a baby. How wrong was I!!
it was funny really because someone on the Mumsnet forums was talking about missed miscarriages about a week before I had my scan as she was very concerned/worried about her own scan coming up and someone came on and said “oh don’t worry about it it only happens in one in 100 pregnancies you’ll be fine“.
Still feel completely shocked, a year on, that I was the one in 100 but, to be honest, I also think this happens a lot more often than that.
During the year I have had to look at the scan photos of others/work colleagues, family et cetera and I just feel immensely bitter. I’d like to say that I’d like the feeling to go away but I just can’t help feeling it’s justified.

AF has just arrived for me so definitely out.

Yes I was the same, so they explained to me that essentially the pregnancy had stopped developing very soon after conception but I still got positive tests, line progression, 3weeks plus on CB digi, and hyperemesis which started at 6 weeks. Everyone kept telling me how it was 'such a good sign'. I had no bleeding at all but lo and behold an empty sac.

It was devatatsting but essentially the sac keeps the pregnancy symptoms going. I was vommiting right up until the procedure was done even though there was no baby. I had so much resentment towards my body for not recognising what had happened. It was also covid so had to be told what at happened alone at the scans. Just all round awful. I did have my daughter after that so MMC doesn't mean that you can't have a healthy pregnancy, I honestly felt I would never have a baby. I was naive this time round and thought we wouldn't have another loss but obviously the chemical happened.

Last month I think I had an anovulatory cycle it went on for 39 days. This cycle going off opks and BBT I ovulated CD 17/18 with a luteal phase of 12 or 11 days depending when I ovulated. Am I right in thinking how many DPO is the length of luteal phase... I don't know if that seems short? Normally my cycles are 31/32 days and ovulation around day 20 this month cycle was 29 days. Who knows 😕🤔

Oh my gosh @Carportforme @Northernsoul90 reading your messages just now makes me feel less alone! Thank you for sharing and sorry for your experiences 🤍

I too had a MMC, had a gestational sac measuring 8 weeks which was correct on my dates but baby only measured 6+2. Had hyperemesis until my MVA. I also had severe hyperemesis with my daughter so I was fully expecting it to come get me again! No bleeding, nothing! Then 5 weeks of positive tests afterwards. Then the next two cycles after the MMC were both chemicals. Just when we thought we were getting a rainbow baby! 💔

I’ve not had any hint of a positive test since July which I know isn’t long but when you conceived 3 cycles in a row to then nothing it’s really disheartening and makes me think something is wrong!

So sorry AF has arrived. Always so unwelcome! Golly, I was fortunate enough not to have hyperemesis with my MMC, just average symptoms. It goes to prove the point though that symptoms mean very little doesn’t it. I can’t imagine being one of those ladies who feel nothing till they get to six weeks plus though. With each pregnancy I have had my pregnancies have made themselves obvious at 4 weeks with very definite symptoms!
I would say that 11/12 days is possibly slightly short for the luteal phase but not worryingly short. If it went down to 10 I would be more concerned.

@RoseannesMamma Never feel alone. There a lot of us out there. I seem to conceive about once every four or five months, which is pretty decent. I know there is no normal in these things so don’t be too frustrated. It is likely to happen when you get to the point of thinking it isn’t going to. It must be truly frustrating to conceive easily and and then to keep having the Chemicals.
sorry if you have already said but do you have any children yet?

@Carportforme I think I might try and just go with the flow next month and in the run up to Christmas and then if still no luck I need to look into getting some bloods and things done (I say this but will no doubt be frantically opks again next month). My cycles have been a bit all over the place since the chemical to be honest. I might look into things I can do to lengthen luteal phase.

@RoseannesMamma Your story is very similar to mine, I also had an MVA. I thought it was pretty brutal looking back at it, I think I was in shock at the time.

Definitely never feel alone in this, it's very common and happens to so many women. Mumsnet has really helped me when ttc 🤍

@RoseannesMamma Just to add this cycle for me is cycle number 4 since chemical, I got pregnant late May and had the chemical early June. Nothing since. I'm starting to feel a bit flat and lose hope also, very frustrating xx

It's nice to know people feel the same as me. I had a chemical in April, fell pregnant again in September and had another pregnancy.
I said to my husband I feel like TTC is totally consuming my life.
I thought I had ovulated but my temperature hasn't increased so I'm guessing not.
Currently cycle day 17 after chemical, thought I would have ovulated by now. What day did everyone ovulated after there chemical?

Sending love and baby dust to everyone.

Thank you @Northernsoul90 @Carportforme ! I do have an older child, she’s nearly 2 and a half! I’m glad there’s others out there feeling frustrated with all this, obviously not glad you feel frustrated but glad I’m not the only one!

How are you getting on @ChristinaB1203 ? I think I may have ovulated yesterday but I’m not as convinced by my BBT as usual… I’ve been poorly last week so I think it’s thrown things!

@RoseannesMamma not convinced I've ovulated tbh. Had a high OPK but BBT hasn't shown that I have. I'll keep testing. Currently cycle day 18 so hoping it happens soon!

I struggle with BBT I feel it can be very unreliable! Especially as my 3 year old is still up multiple times a night!

Not sure if I mentioned anywhere above but I have taken out a bank loan to start paying for some private tests, My mum offered but I felt wrong taking it. We have a first appointment next week. I am a bit different to some of you possibly in that I have multiple allergies so I am very much wondering if this is related to my losses. My research suggests it is a possibility so I want to find out. The NHS waiting list is almost a year I'm told and they won't do the tests I think I may need anyway.
I will update you if they find anything.

@ChristinaB1203 hi, I had a chemical in September, started bleeding on the 10th. I didn't ovulate until CD 25 on the 4th October!!! I usually ovulate around CD 15/16 so that was very late for me. Just had AF on the 20th October so I'm really hoping this next cycle is back to normal 🙏

@Pennyroses thank you that's really reassuring. I keep testing with OPK, I'll either get a positive or my period! Sending baby dust to you 💕

That’s great @Carportforme! NHS waiting lists are silly! I got too impatient and signed up to a private clinic too. We’ve got an initial appointment next week.

How are we all doing?! I’m currently 5dpo with AF due on 4th November!

Sending baby dust to you @RoseannesMamma, nothing much to report for me atm currently CD8... I'm tempted to not try this month and get back onto it next month purely because if I did catch this cycle I would be around 8 weeks at Christmas.

I was really unwell with HG at that point in previous pregnancies so don't really want to be bed bound if I can avoid it as my 3yo is so excited for Christmas this year. I know you can't plan it but I was going to have a more relaxed cycle this month anyway and not opk etc x

How's everyone getting on? 3 DPO for me today. Not feeling hopeful this month as we only managed to DTD the day of peak test.

Hello ladies, may i join? Just had a Chemical 15 days ago, also had a MC earlier this year, ttc#1..

Awwww @Northernsoul90 I think that’s understandable though. I’d not even thought about having HG at Christmas even though it landed me in A&E on Christmas Eve first time round!!

Glad you ovulated in the end @ChristinaB1203 ! 8dpo here! Also don’t really have much hope, I keep feeling poorly all the time at the moment!

Welcome @Heartypandaa I’m so sorry to hear about your losses! 🤍

I'm going to try and be strong and not test until my period is late. Doubt I'll be that strong willed but we will see.

Sorry to hear your not feeling well @RoseannesMamma hope you feel better soon

How's everyone today? 6 DPO today, this TWW feels like it's dragging on for me.