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To think people are nuts for not having kids for environmental reasons?

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LewishamMum · 30/04/2021 14:48

I guess in a community of Mums, I may get support, but I just don't understand the increasing number of people in the media who won't have kids because of the environment.
I can't help thinking a lot of them just don't want kids (which is fine), and are trying to come up with a good/virtue signalling reason for this. I mean, if you wanted kids, wouldn't you just do it? (Oh, I do get why they are bad for the environment though!)

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TreeDice · 01/05/2021 16:07

Would it be appropriate for me to start a thread about my friend/acquaintance who recently had a kid and I don't believe her reasons for having the child? Or would that be cruel, pointless and very judgemental?

Or is it just childless people we can judge?

LewishamMum · 02/05/2021 14:47

@TreeDice
If you think the thread is so horrid, and there's something wrong with me for thinking of this issue, why are you on it? Why did you spend your time being so bitchy?
I've made it clear I've no issue with women choosing (or just not), having kids, and that as a passive aggressive response to being asked (wrongly) about this, then it's fair game.
You can start any thread you like. If it doesn't interest me (and most don't), I won't spend my time spamming it saying it's cruel and you've got something wrong with you. I have got better things to do!
Quite a few people agree with me, and particularly in the initial comments rather than the people who came later and wanted to talk more widely about environmental concerns (which I'm not doubting, it's just not the point of the thread).

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Neonprint · 02/05/2021 14:51

I can't believe how many people are having children with no regard for the environment or what their children's lives will be like.

TreeDice · 02/05/2021 20:17

OP: Am I being unreasonable to think people are nuts to not have DC because of environmental concerns?

Me: yes, and why does this bother you so much?

OP: I don't believe it when people say their childfree status is due to the environment.

Me: Do you spend so much time thinking about your/your friends reasons for having kids and whether you believe those people?

Yes, @LewishamMum, you're right clearly, I'm incredibly bitchy Confused Not getting sick of childfree people having to defend their choices and yet still being judged by complete strangers as "nuts" at all. Hmm

You're right, you can start whatever thread you like. You also have to accept criticism and/or people disagreeing with you on a public forum.

I'm out. Maybe one day we'll get to a place where we can accept people's choices on childbearing without being so judgemental to question and disbelieve their reasoning but clearly, that's not today.

LewishamMum · 02/05/2021 21:37

Nope - I just find it difficult to believe that anyone with the maternal urge would not do so because of environmental reasons. Totally different from saying women "should" have children when they don't want to, or possible can't. Totally different from saying people have got the right to be nosy and ask why you don't have children. And no, I don't know anyone who says this (although I do know lots of people who don't have, or can't have, kids, it's just something I've become aware of in the media. And I'm certainly not disputing the environmental consequences of kids or the crap lives people, particularly in other parts of the world, will face. As one poster said, the environment was reason number 5 for not having a 3rd kid, and I get that, I just struggle with why someone who wanted kids would not have any for the green cause. That's all folks!

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