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TTC following MMC - DH antidepressants

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Wiggleinherwalk · 14/07/2020 11:59

This is my first ever MS post, after much lurking, so apologies in advance for any errors!

Our NY resolution for 2020 was to start our family and we got off to a great start - I was one of those magical unicorns that got a BFP after our first cycle of 'not really trying'. We were so delighted and surprised at how quickly it had happened, felt too good to be true, which it turned out it was as I ended up having a MMC at the beginning of March. Took a while to recover (mentally & physically), but we've now had 4 cycles of actively trying, with conception vitamins/LH tracking, the works, but no luck.

My DH has been on antidepressants for 2-3 years, & I'm wondering if it's having an impact... Firstly it's vastly lowered his libido and also makes it hard for him to 'get there', so although we try to DTD regularly over the fertile window he can't do a 'quickie' so it's always a long session, which when you're trying to do it every other day/every day gets quite tiring/sore, he can't always cum, and we don't do it as much throughout the month as we should be doing... And I'm also wondering whether it might have an impact on the quality/quantity of his sperm. He did a home test and it came back positive but with the faintest line, so it might be that he's on the verge of having a low sperm count (on the NHS site they say this can be a side-effect).

I know 4 cycles isn't a long time, and we got a BFP before so it would suggest we can conceive, but I've suggested we could contact a fertility clinic to both have MOTs. I'm one of those people that likes to plan, and is quite methodical, so I feel like I'd be a lot more positive if I knew that everything was in working order (for both of us), it was just a case of persevering and getting lucky. I also really want to avoid having another miscarriage if at all possible as it was horrific, so it would be good to get some reassurance that things were in working order for both sides.

I'm now 33 so I don't want to leave it a year TTC before we then find out if anything is wrong, to then start trying to resolve any issues, and then I'm 35 and my fertility starts to tail off anyway! Feel like my life is on hold at the moment, with hoping for something I have literally no control over, so just looking for things that would bring reassurance.

He's said he'd prefer to talk to his Dr about lowering his dose/weaning himself off his SSRI, which I think would help physically with being able to 'get there', and we'd end up doing it more, but I think he needs something else in place like CBT/counselling/regular exercise plan etc as he is on antidepressants for a reason and mentally he's in such a better place (and consequentially we as a couple are!) than before he was taking them... But he's refused previous offers of CBT from the Dr, and the NHS is pretty stretched right now so not sure if it's even available. Nervous about him coming off them as life is pretty stressful these days what with a global pandemic generally, and if we do then get pregnant we'll embark on the most stressful period of our lives. Feels like it's not the best time to make such a big change.

Don't know what my question is really... Have other people got pregnant when the DH was on antidepressants and do they think it affected their journey? Should we just have an MOT and talk to someone qualified to see if there's even an issue, as if his sperm is fine/healthy & plentiful then for his mental health it would seem best to stay on his meds and just carry on? Are antidepressants for life, or do you take them to get through a bad patch with the ultimate aim of eventually coming off them? Has anyone come off anti-D's and what's it like? Did anything help make it easier? How can I support him if he does?

Obviously really want for us to have a healthy baby, and he'd make the most wonderful dad, but don't want to put his mental health at risk to try and get there... And he'd get very frustrated and snappy before going on the anti-D's, so worried he'll go back to that and then I won't want to have sex with him anyway haha!

Any advice gratefully received x

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ivfdreaming · 14/07/2020 13:11

I have to be honest and say anti depressants absolutely nuked my DH sperm - both him and his doctor said it wouldn't effect it but I made him get a sperm test done after I read loads
Of studies on the internet and low and behold results came back really bad.

6 months after he came off them we fell pregnant- the first was a miscarriage but two months later i fell pregnant again and had a DD

We've had his sperm tested regularly since (IVF related due to issues with me now) and his results are better than normal

LuckyFlash · 14/07/2020 13:16

Hi @Wiggleinherwalk

I can certainly sympathise as I’m in a very similar boat. DH and I have been TTC for 4 months and he is on anti depressants that lower his libido and make it extremely difficult for him to finish. The first 2 months of ‘trying’ were really awful. He was willing to DTD more at the right time but he didn’t finish once and it had a huge impact on his confidence and made me really upset. It was so hard to see a way forward and he felt like he was letting me down. We then decided to try home insemination as he’s able to finish on his own (after a while!) much more consistently. It has hugely changed things - we managed 5 inseminations in my fw last month and although we didn’t get our bfp it felt great to be ‘in the game’. It has also meant sex can go back to being fun and romantic and not about having to do it to make a baby. We’re heading into our second month now and DH keeps asking about dates and when we can try again with excitement.

I’m not sure what effect it has on sperm count I’ve not heard that before. We have considered a sperm test but are going to wait a few more cycles before we do so we’re not spending Unnecessary money. If you can afford it then it can never hurt to have private testing but also 4 months is not long so there’s no reason why it won’t happen. I agree the waiting sucks though!

Sorry I cant give you a positive bfp story but thought I’d share our journey and how we’re getting around the problem.

Oh also, DH went to the doc last year to say we are thinking of ttc and that he was worried about his reduced libido so they changed his medication to try and improve it. I’d say in the long run it made a minor improvement but the three months it took to transition was AWFUL. I felt so guilty that he was sacrificing his mental health for me and it was a really difficult period. It highlighted how much the AD’s make a difference. I would definitely not suggest he comes off them without a lot of consideration as it could likely have the opposite effect to what you want

Wiggleinherwalk · 14/07/2020 14:27

@ivfdreaming Thank you so much for replying and so sorry for your loss, but so happy you got your happy ending and had your DD. Really interesting that you had the tests done and could see such a difference between his count while he was on AD's to afterwards. I don't want to in any way make him feel bad, or that it's 'his fault', I just wonder if it's a super normal side effect that could be causing us issues...

@LuckyFlash Sorry to hear you're in the same boat, it's so hard isn't it - feel like pressure to perform really doesn't help so I'm trying to be reassuring and say it doesn't matter, we'll try again later, but then my app is telling me DO IT NOW. NOW IS THE TIME. GO GO GO!!! And don't want to lose the romance of being together either... I do think coming off them would be pretty tough - if he misses one pill he starts to feel nauseous and ill the next day, so think there is a high level of dependency once you're on them... And he's so much happier and more relaxed about things now, so they're definitely doing him good!

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ivfdreaming · 14/07/2020 14:32

@Wiggleinherwalk

Thankyou!
Yes there are several medical studies which shows SSRIs (I think that's the term for most anti depressants?) have an effect on male fertility and that it corrects itself a few months after coming off medication.
To be honest DHs depression was a bit of a bone of contention between us - he only went to the doctors with cold/flu symptoms and the Doctor did one of those questionnaires - "are you finding it hard to concentrate" and so on and then announced DH had depression and dished out the pills......I think he was on them for about 18 months in the end

Wiggleinherwalk · 14/07/2020 18:02

@ivfdreaming That's so strange to be prescribed ADs when he went in with something completely different! Are you in the UK? Always think the good ol' NHS is quite resistant to prescribing things if they have to pay for them, especially anything to do with mental health... Hope your DH didn't feel too unwell when he came off them, and that he's feeling 100% now.

Had a call this afternoon from the fertility clinic I'd emailed to request a brochure and they seemed really nice - not pushy at all and although it's not cheap it seemed like they check out every avenue (semen analysis for him, then blood test to see how many eggs I have remaining, pelvic scan for womb/ovaries plus follicle count, plus a 1hr consultation). Might give it a couple more months and then book in if nothing's happening - it's not like we'll be going on holiday this year, so might as well put our money towards something useful!

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Whilstwewait · 14/07/2020 18:48

Hi op. I know the situation your in. My husband is on anti depressants (citalapram). He's had his sperm tested though and his count was amazing as was all the other things they test like motility and morpholpgy so it definitely hasnt effected him. It does take him ages to finish sometimes during FW i think its the pressure and his tablets so no such thing as a quickie. He is so desperate for a baby he will keep going though. Often he will get himself really close then i'll hop on for the grand finale Grin xx

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