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Dr Quenby or Dr Shehata for NK cells testing?

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Rainyshowers · 12/04/2019 09:44

Hi, I've just had my third miscarriage. One I bled at 8 weeks but nothing was found so Itusy have been an early loss, 8 weeks (measuring 6) and 12 weeks.
I am now being referred to my local RMC for tests. However I would also like NK cells testing. I have researched into seeing Dr Quenby in Coventry and Dr Shehata. I was looking at the pred thread on here but everyone seems to be seeing Dr Shehata. Has anyone gone to Dr Quenby?

I rang Dr Shehata's office for advice and they don't believe the NK cell biopsy is accurate and clearly don't rate it.
But seeing Dr Shehata is so much more £££.
Any advice or if you have had NK cell testing how you came to the decision of who to see? Did you wait for your NHS results first or go private straight away. Thanks :)

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Thumbellini · 12/04/2019 11:54

Have you had the recurrent miscarriage panel on the NHS? That should be the first step as it shows up thyroid antibodies or any blood disorders. If that comes back clear (which it might I don't think it's even all the blood tests that can be done) then I'd go private. Mine did come back clear after 2 CP but after I had a 3rd I went private to a specialist and he gave me blood thinners just incase, as he said they find that helps most people. He mentioned NK cells and said that the mix of pogesterone and clexane would create a steroid effect (paraphrasing here but it's the jist of it lol) so if that was the case then it would sort it anyway. Apologies for the ramble! So sorry for your losses Thanks

fnej01 · 12/04/2019 17:20

Hi @Rainyshowers

I have had the NK cell biopsy with the Coventry clinic. We have been diagnosed with high cells and prescribed prednisolone. I guess it's entirely up to you what your preference. I always figured dr shehata as my plan b, but will try this protocol first. As the previous poster said I did this in conjunction with a nhs recurrent miscarriage referral to do all of the basic bloods. I was diagnosed with sticky blood from the blood tests which would never have been picked up at the Coventry clinic as they don't take any bloods literally just biopsy. Happy to answer any questions I can. We are starting TTC again in a couple of months post honeymoon, so wont know success for a while . Good luck with your journey. X

Rainyshowers · 13/04/2019 09:12

I'm thinking that maybe the best option is to have all the NHS miscarriage and chromosome testing done in the next few months. I could also go to Coventry for the biopsy at the same time. Then see what results come up. If something is found and I had some treatment I would feel prepared to try again. And have Dr Shehata as plan b. Either to go to if nothing else is found or if I miscarry again. Though I'm concerned about spending months doing NHS tests when I could go straight to his clinic. But the cost!! If I went there and got all relevant tests it seemed it would cost well above £2k not including scans etc if I got pregnant. I'm thinking it would be £3k ish in total. I guess it is a time versus money problem. So much to think about!

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Rainbows2018 · 13/04/2019 14:15

Hi
I visited Dr Shehata after 4 miscarriages. After 3 I was tested with the NHS and they couldn’t find anything and told me to keep trying. After my 4th I looked for alternative hope and found Dr Shehata, I now have a 9 month old baby - it’s the best thing I ever did xx

PJ12 · 13/04/2019 21:56

I’m really sorry for your losses. Recurrent miscarriage is so soul destroying and a very lonely place.
I had my DD and then 5 miscarriages. I went to see Shehata after the third one. I also self referred to St Mary’s (you can do that from anywhere in the country, just need a letter from your GO) and had a lot of recurrent tests done there (mainly for all types of blood clotting disorders). As someone mentioned above blood clotting disorders are responsible for a lot recurrent miscarriages (though in over 50% of cases a reason is never found). I used the tests from St Mary’s to offset the cost with Shehata. Still, the initial cost came out to about £2.5k.

I was diagnosed with high NK cells and treated with progesterone, baby aspirin and steroids. I went on to have 2 more miscarriages on that treatment plan (one not really sure what happened, it was a natural miscarriages so never got tested, second one was a mmc, we had the foetus tested and it came back positive for trisomy 16). I then got pregnant again on the same treatment and finally gave birth to my DS in Dec.

I went with Shehata because of his high success rate as well as location. I also knew I would get on going treatment from him whereas Quenby is a one appointment only. I know that Shehata doesn’t believe in the uNK cells but I think the treatment plan from both is quite similar (prednisone)? So Quenby might be a good place to start if time isn’t an issue (and to save money)? I think, in the end, the overall cost with Shehata was about £7/8k (tests, appts, pregnancy scans, medication etc).

Good luck and am happy to answer any questions xx

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