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1st day of first go at IVF today - anyone else?

34 replies

dogtired · 25/03/2007 21:37

Hi, I've just done my first injection and I was wondering if anyone else would like to join me for the cycle? Scary isn't it :/

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LatenightOwl · 25/03/2007 22:59

Hi Dogtired
Im nearly at the end of my 2WW - testing on Wed. What injections are you on? I took Gormal??or something like that plus a few larger ones pre ovulation. I took them in my tummy as I found it easier that way but alot of americans I correspond with do it in the thigh..
Wishing you all the best and if you cant find a buddy on here (I would strongly recommend you find one - it has helped me enormously) then go on www.IVFWorld.com - general forum and you will find plenty of people in your situation.
Wishing you all the best.

dogtired · 26/03/2007 20:11

Hi LNO, I'm taking 350 Puregon then add another injection for a few days closer to EC.

I've registered at ivfworld and have already picked up a few tips.

Lots of luck for Wednesday!!

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Smudgerr · 27/03/2007 12:37

Hi Dogtired
This is my first posting but wanted to let you know that I have also have a low AMH score, about 1.2 and am currently doing 1st course of IVF, I've just turned 40 and had a miscarriage last year. Today is day 7 of stimming, I'm on GonalF 300 units. Went for six day scan yesterday and got a real shock as 2 of my follicles are mature and 7 are really little. Nurse said that if I carry on stimming that I will lose the 2 mature follicles and that the smaller ones probably won't mature. They want to do an egg collection on Thursday even though I only have two mature follicles. I am in shock and very disappointed. My clinic don't seem to give me alot of information and blame everything on my age. This is quite an unusual scenario as I've only taken the injections for 5 days and already have 2 19mm follicles. Has this happened to anyone else, as the hospital say it's unusual and I'm so confused.
Thanks

dogtired · 27/03/2007 20:22

Hi Smudgerr

Sorry to hear how worried you are. I'm very new and inexperienced in all this, but surely 2 mature eggs is good regardless of when it happens? I wonder how the nurse knows the others won't mature though, did she explain that to you?

My advise to you would be to get yourself registered at IVFworld.com if you haven't already and ask the ladies there.

Good luck for Thursday (that's when I have my 6 day scan) - will this bring the tranfer date forward?

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Smudgerr · 27/03/2007 22:37

Thanks Dogtired
It's just all so confusing...I asked the nurse the same question and she said that with 2 big follicles it was unlikely that the others would grow, but to be honest I don't think she knows which is why I wanted to speak with a doctor as they gave me the alternative of just doing timed intercourse. My consultant still hasn't called me back, which is very poor. So, I go in on Thursday morning, will have a scan to check that I still have follicles to collect and then see what happens.
How are you feeling with your drugs?

dogtired · 28/03/2007 13:19

I'm feeling fine with my drugs - even though I gave myself an overdose by accident on Tuesday evening! In fact, I feel pretty good (so far)

I do hope you manage to speak with a consultant before EC, if it's an unusual scenario, surely it's important that you speak to one? Could you possibly have 2 lots of EC if your others grow?

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Smudgerr · 29/03/2007 19:22

Hello everyone

I just wanted to update my unusual story and hope it will give everyone out there who doesn't think they have responded well to the stimms some encouragement. As per my last post, I only had 2 mature follicles at day 5 and they wanted to do an EC today. Well, I went in this morning all doom and gloom, got ready for the op even though there was a possibility that the follicles were now not usable. They scanned me first to see if the 2 were still there........they were......and quite unbelievably when I woke up in the recovery room my consultant told me that he had managed to get a big fat 7 !! To say I am pleased is an understatement, I am so happy as I was expecting at the very most 2.

So, I obviously have a long way to go yet - but I've just increased my chances. I would also add that on Monday they gave me the option of abondoning the cycle because of the poor number of follicles (but still only day 5 of stimming) and doing timed intercourse. It was a really difficult decision to make because of the cost, emotional trauma, GA, etc but I decided to go for it and I'm so glad I did. Even if non fertilise tonight, I now know that I can produce some eggs.

What a rollercoaster this whole thing is, this morning I had a real strop and was tearful and negative, now I feel like running down the street like a smiling maniac.

Dogtired - glad to hear that the drugs are going well, I made quite a few errors with my drugs but I think there's a good error margin built in to everyone's program.

Wishing you lots of luck and will definitely keep you updated tomorrow.

dogtired · 30/03/2007 15:50

Hi Smudgerr,

On Sunday I went for my scan, day 6, but only 5 days' stimming - and I also have only two follicles! One on each side between 14 and 15 mm diameter. They've increased the Puregon to 400 and I have to go back on Saturday to discuss whether or not to abandon this cycle - so a HUGE thank you for your post - it has given me real hope as on Saturday I will be in exactly the same situation as you have been, only there's been no talk of EC early (yet) What size do the follicles have to be before they'll EC

Where are you at today?

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Smudgerr · 30/03/2007 18:43

Hi Dogtired
Well, I was so nervous waiting for the phone call this morning, but good news as 3 have fertilised and I'm going in tomorrow for the ET. She couldn't tell me anything more but will grade them tomorrow and hopefully if they are all OK, I will have all 3 put back in (because I'm over 40).

Those extra days can make all the difference and look at me....I went in the operating theatre being told I had two follicles, possibly another small one and he managed to get 7.

Your two follicles are a good size so they won't get too mature too quickly and you now have time to grow some more! As everyone tells you, it only takes one but I know how disappointing it is to get a low number....I felt gutted and really depressed.

Keep positive and I will let you know what tomorrow brings.

Smudgerr · 30/03/2007 18:51

Dogtired, only just read the other part of your message. My nurses (though they do change their minds daily) said that they had to be around your size for collection and perhaps they think that going for EC with only 2 follicles is expecting too much. That's what I felt, to be honest, I felt a bit silly as the other lady I was sharing a room with had 11 ! However, having just been in your shoes, if you can afford to go ahead with just two good size follicles then I would say go for it. The blood test will also give you an indication of whether or not they contain an egg.

I think they may not want you to go ahead because of the cost and the low percentage of success, but hey, look at how many I managed with supposedly only 2....but everyone is different and you have to do what is right for you. Unfortunately, my clinic haven't impressed me so far and they seem to be one of the most expensive. We wanted to do PGS as I've miscarried in the past and they said I couldn't do it with only 2 follicles, however I managed to get 7 eggs, so we could have done it....but obviously now we can't as it's too late to arrange it.

I hope you are getting good support and information from your clinic.

dogtired · 30/03/2007 20:57

Whoops, got my days wrong in my previous post - I meant I had my scan on Thursday, not Sunday!

Great news on your embryos I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for a successful ET for you tomorrow, and I'll let you know what my doctor says. Bet my clinic's more expensive than yours though (probably because it has a Harley St address []hmm]) I cannot believe the price of the meds

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Smudgerr · 31/03/2007 20:33

Hi Dogtired, how did you get on at the clinic today? I had my transfer and they put all 3 back though only one of them is a grade 1, so it's now in the lap of the Gods...as they say.

How do you rate your clinic? I'm already thinking that if this cycle isn't successful that we should visit some alternatives.

Hope today brought some good news...

dogtired · 31/03/2007 21:33

Hey Smudgerr!

Wow - three transferred, terrific! Good luck - I guess you're in for the longest 2 weeks of your life now... Are you uncomfortable at all? I hope you're taking things easy, I hear that the eggs might not implant properly for around 3 days and if you do anything at all strenuous you might lose them. Also you're not to have any hot baths.

Had another scan today - still only two follicles, no others at all, but they're of a good size, 21 and 22 mm, the edges are nice and defined, and my endometrium is looking good, so we're going ahead and will do the EC on Monday morning. They're concerned that my egg reserve is so low it might be pointless waiting to see if I have more on another cycle. I just hope there are eggs in there and they're of good quality!

I think it's a bit difficult trying to rate a clinic when it's the only one you've experienced, but they seem good, the staff are nice and friendly. However, they didn't give me enough Orgalutron so I missed last night's jab so had to have it this morning instead. There was the mix up with the Puregon too, but that was kind of my fault for not listening properly. I'm not sure I'd try a different clinic if this cycle fails, although I know the ARGC has a very good success rate, so I might have a look at that one.

Where's your clinic, is it in London?

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Smudgerr · 01/04/2007 18:36

Hi Dogtired, I wouldn't worry too much about the number of follicles as it sounds like you have two very good ones....good luck for tomorrow.

I have been quite uncomfortable since egg collection. It didn't hurt at all on the day of the collection but since then I've been really bloated and full of wind which is very painful. (yuk) I have been resting but I am so bored, haven't left the house all weekend. I've also been really emotional which is probably down to the boredom as well, one minute I'm really positive and then the next just think that it's such a lot to go through for such a small percentage of success.

I'm at The Lister in London - they're ok but just so, so busy. They have 3 waiting rooms and on Monday mornings some of us have to stand. I did think about having a consultation at the ARGC if this one fails, but don't know whether it's better to stick to the devil you know.

Lots of luck tomorrow, it sounds like you've got two fantastic eggs lurking in those follies. Take care

dogtired · 01/04/2007 22:48

Sorry you're feeling uncomfortable, I've heard about the windyness. I've heard good things about the Lister, that's probably why they're so busy. At least if you do need another cycle you know how they operate so you might feel a bit more in control? Anyway, you won't be needing another cycle I'm at the LFC by the way.

This afternoon I got the feeling that I'd lost one of my eggs - both my sides have felt tender and swollen since last night's Pregnyl, but then this afternoon, the left suddenly suddenly felt ok. But if I've only got one follicle left, I'm going to abandon this cycle, so I'm going to get an extra scan before EC tomorrow.

I'll let you know how I get on. Hope your bloatiness calms down soon, and make the most of not doing anything - wish I had that option!

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dogtired · 02/04/2007 22:07

Fortunately I was wrong about losing an egg! Doc got 2 and they're looking ok apparently. So now I'm waiting for a call to tell me if we need ICSI....

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Smudgerr · 02/04/2007 22:43

That's fantastic news - you must be relieved and very excited. It's just such a rollercoaster, that's the hardest thing I'm finding so far. Well done you sending you lots of luck for the phone call tomorrow, remember that it really is the quality not the quantity that counts and yours sound like good eggs

littleEasterlapin · 02/04/2007 22:45

Not doing IVF, but just popping on to wish you luck

dogtired · 03/04/2007 13:39

Thanks lel!

How you doing today Smudgerr?

I was told this morning that both my eggs have been fertilised by ICSI and I'm to go in tomorrow for transfer. I'm really nervous now.

Having a healthy baby seems like the hardest thing in the world right now - so many things can go wrong, it's almost overwhelming.

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eclipse · 03/04/2007 13:46

Just snooping/lurking. Best of luck for tomorrow dogtired. Hope it works for you.

LatenightOwl · 04/04/2007 19:02

Hope all went well today Dogtired wishing you all the best of luck.

dogtired · 05/04/2007 13:32

Hi, thanks LNO! well the two embies survived (phew) and I had them put back in yesterday. The doc said they were of pretty good quality, one was in excellent shape, the other showed signs of a tiny bit of fragmentation, so I'm taking things really easy now and settling in for the 2ww. How are you?

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Chocolatedays · 05/04/2007 13:34

Good Luck Dogtired.... guess this will be the longerst 2 weeks of your life!

Take care.

Smudgerr · 11/04/2007 10:18

Just to let you know that I was due to test on Thursday 12th and I got my period yesterday!! So, didn't even make it to the 2 week mark, not sure what this means. I'm obviously upset and really disappointed but just have to get on with things....

Dogtired, how are getting on?

Nelli30 · 11/04/2007 11:23

Smudgerr - I am so very sad to read your news. I know exactly how you feel. Life is so very unfair. Make sure you give yourself plenty of time to grieve and scream and shout and anything else you need to do. I had a negative last wednesday and even though its a week later and , yes you do have to get on with things I still have my moments. Don't try to push yourself to ' get back to normal' too quickly. You must give yourself time to deal with the disappointment and heartache and all the other feelings that will come washing over you. We are all here for you, please feel free to message me if you want to chat.

Take care of each other and take time to heal
love
Nelli xxx