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duchesse · 19/02/2007 14:19

I'm imaging this one as more of an Eeyore stick hut type thing. Maybe Eeyore is actually still in residence.

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BellaBear · 10/03/2007 19:08

laughed and spilled my gin and tonic!

beansprout · 10/03/2007 19:09

How late are you now pepperpots?

pepperpots · 10/03/2007 19:19

glad i cheered u up
My cycles are strange they range anywhere from 26-40 days and i am on roughly cd30, the thing is i have been "googling"- ok i know its stupid but now i have scared myself stupid that i have pcos????!!!! I have had these pains in my side which i convinced myself is a bloody cyst! God i feel so stupid now

Impatience · 10/03/2007 21:19

Anyone else feel Pepperpots just flashed at us?!

I am definately not pregnant. Thanks for holding my hand through the symptom and line traumas. Much as I would like to promise that I will never do a bloody test until my period is way late, or if I do I will not believe any line unless I can see it across the room, I know I will crumble in, oh, about 26 days time...

MrsMc, take care of yourself xx

Debbsyandson · 10/03/2007 21:26

here you go ladies some champers and chocolates for ya xx

beansprout · 10/03/2007 21:37

Thanks Debbs. Food parcels always welcome

lissielou · 11/03/2007 09:33

morning all, well spotting hasnt erupted yet. fecking hell!

impatience, im so sorry.

found out yesterday that sm's neice is 12w pg shes 14 and doesnt really want it. im so bloody angry!

duchesse · 11/03/2007 11:53

God Lissie. That must hurt.

What is she going to do? Let her mother look after it? (which honestly I think the mother ought to) I can't even begin to imagine how people think their kids are not going to get into some scrape or other if left unsupervised for long periods of time. My middle child is nearly 12, but she is nowhere near able (by design) to spend long periods of time my herself. As a secondary school teacher, it makes my blood boil to hear of kids essentially left to fend for themselves once they hit 10-11. It's no wonder to me that we have the highest teenage pregnancy rate in Europe.

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lissielou · 11/03/2007 12:13

dont know, but shes one of these "smoking so she has a small baby" kids. im furious about it. i know i shouldnt judge but....

i think her mums going to look after it tbh but thats not the point.
arrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

beansprout · 11/03/2007 15:59

Sorry to hear that Lissie. These situations are difficult for everyone. My sd is now 19 and I still would freeze in horror if I found out that she was pregnant.

Am actually at my mum's house (on the south coast - we live in London) following several sightings of mice this morning, including in my bedroom as I was feeding ds. He really doesn't need to see me freaking out and I'm hardly going to sleep with a mouse scratching away under my bed so we've legged it. Thank you baby Jesus for trusty parents who are only too pleased to see their grandson at the drop of a hat

Catbabymummy · 11/03/2007 17:19

When I went to EPAU during my miscarriage, there was a girl there about 13-14 years old and she was there to have a scan. It did cross my mind to tell the nurse how incredibly insensitive it was to make me(who was losing a desperately wanted baby) share a waiting room with some silly little chavette who thinks that having a baby at 14 is cool because she won't have to bother getting a job. DH told me not to bother...

LatenightOwl · 11/03/2007 17:40

hello all, thought I would drop by cos I heard chocolate and cake was in abundance...and then read your many posts

Dear MrsMcJnr - so sorry to hear of your loss , words can not express how you must be feeling at the moment.

I found this today and thought it summed up how I would like to explain all this sometimes - even to my sister and can't - thank goodness for MN buddies -

Things I Wish My Friends and Family Knew About Women & Infertility

That it is probably the most devastating thing we will ever experience.
It makes us feel cheated and alone.
It ruins our self-image.
Our bodies, minds, and spirits spin out of balance.
It affects our relationships with everyone we know.
It interferes with our day to day functioning.
It feels like it will never end.
The medications make us moody and emotional and cause us to gain weight.
It is very expensive to go through treatments or to adopt.
It is emotionally draining.
We need distraction, because in every other moment we think of our infertility issues.
We miss the days of strong and abundant hope.
It changes our lives forever; we will never again be the same people we once were.
People experiencing infertility have the same rates of depression as those with cancer.
It makes us question everything we have ever believed in.
These are medical issues, not lifestyle issues.
Never suggest we just relax.
We fear calls from our clinic, because often it is bad news.
Stepping foot in our clinic make tears well up in our eyes.
Even though your intentions are good, you will probably say something that is offensive to us because the sensitivity of infertility has made us this way.
No matter how close the friendship, it will be hard to completely connect with fertile friends.
Infertility affects all aspects of life and the pain is inescapable. We are confronted with it at work, at the grocery store, at restaurants, on television and with family and friends, even if they don?t know it. Kids are life?s common denominator. When we can?t participate in these conversations we just don?t fit in.
Remember if I am acting mad at times, I am not mad at you, I?m mad at my life.
My life plans were rejected and continue to be rejected.
I will be OK again, but I don?t know when so when I seem OK, just accept that as a good thing for the moment, and don?t press me, because I don?t know how long the feeling will last.
Going through infertility is like being on a rollercoaster: there are constant ups and down and surprising drops. We never know what is around the next curve and we work very hard just to stay fastened in our seats.
Infertility is a journey that will take us to many places we never thought of or knew about and it will shape us into new people (some of our newness will be good and some will not be) and change how we look and deal with everything in our lives.
The greatest fear is that we will never have a child. Each failed treatment cycle, especially as our treatment gets more hi-tech, makes this fear even larger. If we could just somehow know that we would have a child, a lot of the stress would be alleviated.
I wish my family and friends could understand how holidays, special gatherings, and just hearing about or being around other people?s children and pregnant women, can be so hard sometimes.
That medical treatments are both emotionally and physically painful. That failed infertility treatments make us feel like failures. What did we do wrong?
We feel like our bodies are not our own. It takes up to four additional people in the room to attempt conception.
Every little secret is no longer a secret.
That fertility treatment is very clinical and there is nothing fun about it.
Treatment cycles move very slowly. It?s difficult to be patient. We are at the mercy of the medical world.
We are disturbed by how this affects our relationship with our partner; we?re rarely ?on the same page?.
We know to be thankful and grateful for what we do have.
The emptiness seems bottomless...if we could just see a picture of the future...
There is not one thing funny about it anymore. Don?t make light of our sorrows.
Misuse of the phrase ?God?s Plan? is annoying. This is nature?s flaw; my God would never intentionally include this struggle in His plan.
We?re not proud of our bitterness, our envy, or any way infertility has negatively affected us.
It?s unclear to know when to stop treatment and if that route is chosen, we?re giving up.
We want to return to the time we still believed in our dream.
We have stashes of baby stuff.
We feel we have a right to have children.
We want to see our partner?s resemblance in the faces and actions of our children.
Believe us, we?d rather not put you in an awkward position, but feel lucky you can walk away from it.
Please don?t try and "fix it" or say clever things to make us feel better, just acknowledge it.
The world asks, "Do you have children?" and as we age they will ask "Do you have grandchildren?".
Our innate desire to be a mother is being smothered and at risk of being snuffed out.

Is it okay if I just sit in the corner and nibble at the chocy left overs??? got my final IVF scan tomorrow and DP had not been to any so feeling sad and lonely hence why seeking the hut tonight

eclipse · 11/03/2007 19:33

Hi, Everyone,
Just checking back in after a few months out of action and 'resting' from ttc. I'm now back from holiday and also back in the saddle and preparing for many more gloomy months of ftc. It's not all doom and gloom though as I managed to smuggle an abundant stash of illegal substances into the country and I'm happy to share so settle down on the sofa and pass it along - just don't ask where I hid it if you're the squeamish type...
LatenightOwl, I have read your post and think it should be compulsory reading for family members. It would be so helpful for those who are trying to be supportive and informative for those who are just plain insensitive.
MrsMcJnr, I have been following the conception threads for a year or so now and, although we have not communicated directly I have been following your posts and I wanted to say how sorry I was to hear what has happened to you.

Impatience · 11/03/2007 20:21

Eclipse, I'll have some. I don't care where it's been

Found out today that the friend I just knew was at some point going to announce her pregnancy is now pregnant. She didn't even try: she just missed a pill. I hate her. I feel very bitter towards her and her husband. There are several things I find very difficult about them - about the way they parent their son and about the husband's homophobia ('kindly' he makes an exception for us because 'we're alright' . So I'm finding it really hard to separate my current issues with them from the fact that her easy conception simply highlights my lack of conception. It's very difficult to just feel sorry for myself without turning it into a big thing about them. I don't think I can see her for a while, but the longer I leave it the more tricky that'll be. I don't want to be such a bitter and twisted old cow, but I just feel hating toward them.

Amrak would have a field day, stupid backward-karma bitch.

I'm not proud of how I feel, but it's hurts all the same.

mum03 · 11/03/2007 21:03

AARRRGGGGG! Sorry I needed somewhere to come and scream, please just pass me a vat full of chocolate and I promise I will sit quietly in the corner frowning at myself. It is ok it is just horrible PMT...... what more can I say!

mum03 · 11/03/2007 21:28
seaside72 · 11/03/2007 21:41

Mum03 and Impatience - I'll join you in choc fest and illegal subs.
March officially sucks right now. I need a punch bag - nearly used DH in the middle of the night when I woke up at 3am irrationally angry and in a real stomping rage about the fact that we are supposed to be TTC and yet this month we havent had any sex (sod BD) at the right time despite the fact tha I had a pos OPK, peak on my CB monitor loads of fricking EWCM and also Ov pains for the first time ever - Arghhhhhh.
Now instead of a 2ww I have a 6ww until I could even think about a BFP unless we have managed immaculate conception. But the stupid thing is I will still get my hopes up at the end of this cycle and still be depressed when AF arrives - WTF!!! I think I am going insane.

Oh yes and PG BF and PG BF of DH is really helping as well - NOT!!!

I want a shouty/frustrated emoticon!

mum03 · 11/03/2007 21:49

Seaside - glad you could join me here.... I needed to get away from the 'other' thread quick-smart or I would have said things that I really did not mean....

sideways · 11/03/2007 21:56

seaside - what happened to the sex? Why the lack of it?

Impatience - at your friend's dh. What a twat.

It's so hard as well when everyone around you gets pregnant just by looking at their oh.

Latenightowl - that was very powerful. Good luck with your scan tomorrow, I hope everything is ok? Do you mind if I ask (roughly) which part of the country you are in?

seaside72 · 11/03/2007 22:13

Hi sideways - Ohh its a long story - won't bore you with the details - Mum03 knows them all anyway - but in a nutshell we have been TTC for 12 months (actually it really nearer 18 months but I never count the first few months of blissful ignorance when we just had a sex when we felt like it without protection and just thought we would be pg immediately - Oh the old days !!) and basically the last 3 months the pressure has really gotten to DH and he gets performance anxiety thats starts around 3 days before OV and lasts until about 3 days after OV - we may as well be practising the rythym method or whatever it is called!!

The first month it happened I became hysterical and irrational and v v angry - last month I tried to pretend it didn't happen and ignore it and this month I have tried being caring and understanding (until today!!) - TBH I did not realise how this whole TTC lark has affected my DH - he is a nervouse wreck about it like me - so - never going to happen at this rate!

Oh - and to top it all we had a test done that showed my ovarian reserve is pants and I will prob start the menopause soon - so much for the big family - or any family for that matter

So thats my pitiful story for the night - I am off to make myself a moscow mule cocktail - anone care to join me?

becklespeckle · 11/03/2007 22:52

anyone in the hut?

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becklespeckle · 11/03/2007 22:56

looks like it's just us then - want to help me with this bottle of baileys???

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