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Hi (big wave)
So you clicked on here because you were looking for me (I'm flattered!) or the title seemed interesting!
I'm aware it doesn't really explain anything but we are bunch of lovely ladies all TTC and going ever so slightly crazy with it! For more info see our original thread here -

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2412386-TTC-anxious-over-early-pregnancy-possible-symptoms?msgid=56357000#56357000

And our most recent thread here -

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2531973-Christmas-is-here-but-its-not-the-turkey-thats-getting-basted-with-symptoms-to-spot-and-festive-cheer-Prty-and-the-gang-are-getting-BFPS-this-year?pg=39&order=

We are symptoms spotters extraordinaire - you name it we've had it, real and/or imagined
We are here to help, we are all supportive, we laugh, rant, cry, joke, rage, smile, and comfort together. Be you a lurker or poster (established or new) then you are very welcome here. We only have a few rules:

1. No judgement - we all lead different lives and have different standards and that is fine. You wanna get wasted everyday of TWW, that's fine. You wanna abstain completely, that's fine. We need support, not judgement.
2. No feeling stupid - we've all had those months where we definitely think we are pg 110% convinced and then AF turns up, don't feel bad about it, it happens. Also we all have different levels of knowledge so no question is stupid apart from the one you don't ask.
3. On this thread there is no such thing as TMI - we are all adults and we all know how miraculous and amazing... and downright disgusting our bodies can be, it's fine. Share what you want, we will not be fazed.
4. This thread is intended for support - both giving and receiving. If someone helps you then please be kind and return that to another TTCer.

So that's it, jump in and FX'd for all of my lovelies xx

No update here TMI, today is official AF d day, still no sign but the day is still young so not reading too much into it. Have an exam tomorrow and a big report due for work on Monday so am hoping I don't get too obsessed with knicker watch.

Getting support is great, makes you feel like you aren't alone in it all.

I absolutely love this feed - thank you you lot for all being so honest.
I'm due my period this weekend (3 days away but since Sunday (so, for last 3 days) I've had: heartburn, slight dizziness, cramps and really stingy, prickling boobs - it's the boob thing that makes me wonder.... I'm 39 and we've been trying for a year. Felt good this month as we've started the ball rolling for fertility treatment - no actual treatment yet as there's so many tests to go through but I had an ultrasound on all my equipment and the bill of good health really made a difference to my head! But I'm yet to see if this has had an impact on our luck this month. I do hope so!!!! It won't surprise me if I'm imagining these symptoms - but I don't think I am.... I always get swollen boobs as PMT but it never feels like I've got needles in my boobs!! So I'm hoping - but good grief, I'm ALWAYS hoping. Can't stand it sometimes....
I wish all you luck and I'm grateful that I'm not the only one pacing about trying to be calm but actually being driven mad.... x

Welcome to knicker watch Garden good luck for this cycle, your symptoms do sound promising! I seem to be very asymptomatic (I think I just made up that word), generally before AF I only get some mild cramping, but some months I don't even get that, so I always wonder if I will be the same when it comes to (FX'd) early PG symptoms

Thank you snowy1982 !! (Am I actually successfully replying? Still haven't figured things out....) I like your term 'knicker watch' that's just what it is... I'm always looking out optimistically for implantation bleeding. Even when the period starts I HOPE it's that but then know it isn't.... Cruel how similar things are to pmt, it's like a taunt. Then the negative test is like a huge iron door being CLANGED SHUT and a voice saying - nope, that's not for you... Every month!!! Anyway - good luck to you too. Heartening that everyone seems to 'develop symptoms'. I can see why phantom pregnancies happen, I really can - I can see why they can happen to very normal people.... Anyway - we press on into the world of optimism!!!
All the best everybody!!!

Yes garden you were successful

Well after a week of teasing me, AF turned up this morning. Looking for the positives, at least I won't waste my exam time on knicker watch and I am patiently waiting for the clinic to open to make my private appointment. Actually think I am all cried out over TTC at the minute, when AF arrived I didn't get upset for a change

Hi snowy1982 oh I'm sorry - I completely throw my toys out of the pram every month - but it's better to embrace the rage - or whatever feeling, and move on, like it sounds like you're doing (moving on I mean). It wastes LOADS of time and energy as you say. I find cinema very distracting - one of the few things that takes me out of myself... Have a lovely weekend - I know everyone says it's good to welcome the new cycle - but I know that also gets a bit wearisome, when disappointment seems to have no end (that's how it is for me anyway) but I think it's going to be a beautiful summer... Its helped me recently that I've accepted that I'm not going to literally produce a baby in 2016 now, (would have had to conceive in March) and actually that philosophy kind of freed me up - I've still got plenty of time to conceive and produce a baby within 2017 and so I'm thinking of all the available time I have to do that in. It originally got me down that I can no longer physically have a baby now in my 30's as I'm 40 in December - and initially, after not conceiving by March that pissed me off - but now it feels like I've loads time (sort of)

All this hope is a bit of a tyranny in a way - as John Cleese once yelled out in his distraught fashion, "it's not the despair, it's the hope, aghhhhh!"

I'm rambling - don't mean to - just want to help you feel more at ease....

Have a lovely weekend and enjoy the sun, if it appears...

That's a shame Snowy, but onwards and upwards let me know how it goes with the pvt clinic, I have some pvt cover but it doesn't cover 'infertility' and when I enquirer about prices I nearly fell off my chair. I'm on cd42, no idea what is going on tested again, another bfn - just hope AF stays away until Tuesday so my bloods remain valid.

Welcome Garden, yes we are all human and can do things to make us appear a little crazy at times but it's only because we want ikkle babies!

Can I come play too? I'm 7dpo, cycle 1 TTC DC3. I've had weird cramps on & off since I ovulated & very low appetite for a few days. I've been eating mostly as normal but then getting a stomach ache. Just now I had a momentary twinge in my shoulder & had a spilt second panic that I might have an ectopic... I'm really good at catastrophising imagining symptoms!

With both previous DC I had symptoms at 7dpo so I've been jumping at every minor twinge today! So far I've felt dizzy stood up too fast while having an empty stomach, queasy hungry & almost sort of felt like my uterus was stretching or something needed a wee. I need a different hobby!

Hi AGnu,
Gosh I feel a bit like that. I'm due period on Monday and have felt a bit queasy for last couple of days and had heartburn after eating for 5 days now, and a bit dizzy...
I did a test actually - couldn't resist as I DO feel strange. But it was negative so I'm in bed now sulking. Too early I guess... I've also been having crampy feelings but not as cramps that come on, grip and go, more that they build gradually to a wider, general ache. And have had random twinges in abdomin and boobs, little stabby pains.
Frustrated. Impatient am I!
Good luck!!

Have my first appointment with clinic on Thursday TMI, there is one more blood test they need me to do before any consultations, so am going in for it on Thursday and hope to have consultation the following week. If it wasn't for my parents I wouldn't be able to go private, my mum offered me the money to do it and after a lot of thinking about I decided it was too good an offer to not accept

After 5 days of 'knowing' I was pregnant, (dizziness, mild cramps, incredible sense of smell, very vivid dreams, unusually frequent headaches - and that feeling of just KNOWING) my period came 1 day early.

Thanks a lot Mother Nature.

I'm livid. Really, really pissed off. I'm really hacked off with feeling like I can't trust my senses.

After 1 year of trying and now staring down the barrel of treatment, I'm really hacked off.

Hi ladies,

On the way back from my lovely holiday and just catching up. Sorry about the AFs Snowy and Garden. Good to hear you are moving forward with the clinic Snowy. My holiday was really good, very relaxing and I think it fell over my FW. If Im not pregnant this month then I am just giving up and waiting for IVF because I think this was def our best shot!

Pirsy glad you had a nice holiday, your deserve it. Fingers crossed the relaxation will have done the trick

I know how you feel Garden I am on cycle 21 of trying (although the first 6 months was just stopping the pill and letting nature take its course) so I understand how frustrating it is

OMG, I've just been doing some research ref pregnancy and labour (what else on a Saturday night when ttc lol) and I saw a photo of a placenta. Freaking hell I had no idea it was that big and organ like looking. I mean, I had no idea what I had imagined or was expecting but that definitely wasn't it. The thought of that coming out after birth is more horrifying than the baby coming out something so small

Hi Snowy - it's sh** isn't it... I don't feel like I've got much time left as I'm 40 later in the year - but I'm assured that I've got more time than I thought...
What stresses me is the head-mess. I feel SO bitter. My brother and his wife had a baby recently and I've virtually shut him off. One of my best friends is pregnant and it's taken me two months to see her. I know that's not right - but it's the sad fall-out of terrible frustration that knaws at me constantly.
I think essentially it's impatience that I'm suffering.
I've only just started period today so I'm especially emotionally raw just now.
I was really convinced that I'd be pregnant and I wanted to surprise my husband tomorrow (on Father's Day) with a positive test.
He puts a brave face on - I never really wanted children until I met him, only met him last spring and we were married by the summer... And he's more broody than I am but he's a kind man and he just supports me - and that also makes me sad that I'm not more brave.

Did I note you were starting treatment? We started treatment in February, although haven't actually seen a consultant yet - so many tests... They're all fine by the way, although this week (seeing as I didn't conceive his month) I've got to have the Fallopian tube x-ray but I'm sure it can't be worse than the dentist. Over pretty quickly.
The first time we actually went to clinic for our first appointment I had an ultrasound - which was great!!! It was wonderful to see everything and I was given a full bill of health (the fallopian exam is just routine).

Anyway - I hope you'll feel good when you start stuff rolling at the clinic - I did, I think a lot of people get pregnant just because of the relief that there IS help out there (just sitting in the waiting room seeing people just like me did help my state of mind!!)
If you're private it'll all go faster than our clinic, NHS and quite slow...

Good luck to you Snowy and it's very likely you'll bag some good luck shortly after you sign up for help - it's really common!!!

Welcome Jj and AG to the Ttc club!

Pirsy great to hear you had a lovely holiday, well overdue one!

snowy sucks about AF rearing its head, but onwards and positive thinking now....sweet of your mum to offer to pay for the treatment hope it is a success for you, DH and I have just purchased a house (completing next week hopefully) and it requires gutting out and redoing completely so there is no money in the kitty :( I think we are just going to keep trying, they have upped my mg of thyroxine which hopefully should balance my thyroid out further..... I received a phone call from the docs saying my bloods have arrived and that I need to book in for a 'routine appointment' - not sure what that means am on CD 43 and getting nervous as I would like AF to arrive....If nothing happens I guess the next few months will be full of tests, prodding and poking, In more positive news, my sister shared her baby making worries with me (13 years ago, when I was too young to understand or appreciate the worries of Ttc!! ) she was told she would NEVER be able to have children due to her severe PCOS, she was given clomid only to have it taken away from her as it was dangerous for her condition but a year and a half after trying she fell pgnt with baby number 1, she now have 3 children! - so just goes to show, if it's meant to be it will be

Big hugs to all - sounds like it's been a crappy month xx

I had and strange brown discharge late yesterday and this morning...seems to have gone now I dare hardly hope that I'll get a bfp in the same month that I was due to give birth thankfully we're up to our ears in house renovation stuff so I'm trying to stay distracted!

I've got my cousin's baby shower in a couple of weeks...determined to have a nice time..through gritted teeth

Garden we started to go for treatment in NHS, referral letter was sent in December, I had day 3 and 21 blood tests and DH had SA and all results came back ok (well DH was on the low side of normal but doc said it wouldn't be a problem) and then we were told to wait for our appointment - still waiting. So have decided we've waited long enough. I am having a AMH blood test on Thursday and then we should see a consultant within a week.

Oh that's way too long to wait!!! Oh gosh, sorry you've had that wait, that's rubbish... Glad you're signed up for alternative. Seeing the consultant will be really good for mind as well as body. Good luck Snowy!!

Snowy sounds like things will move pretty quickly for you now. The NHS wait in your area sounds excessive - I def would have gone private too.

Garden dont lose hope - my aunty had a baby at 43 so it can happen.

Another one here doing house renovations! Ours are in full swing now - hopefully it wont be too much longer until we can move in. Big question at the mo is whether to have a range cooker or a hob and oven?!

Having come back from holiday all relaxed I now feel super stressed. I didnt sleep well last night - was awake worrying about how Im going to feel if my period comes, then how hard IVF is going to be and generally feeling miserable about infertility. The longer it goes on the less likely I think it is to ever happen.

Hello Pirsy,

That's just how I feel....

In films or stories, the hero often gets brought really low, either by an adversary or something he can't control - there's always a moment when you wonder if he or she will actually make it (loads of stories follow this pattern!) - then, wow they succeed!
Often when you're at your lowest, it's actually the start of the turn of your luck, whether you know it or not.
It's just giving you something to remember when you succeed - something to look back on and think, wow I really earned that!!

I'm in just the same boat - I'm always happy when I wake, until the realisation of my frustrations sets in... I'm quite frightened each month as the prospects seem lower every month (I burst into tears in the doctors yesterday because the lady before me had just been told she was pregnant - the lady on reception was congratulating her) but I try and remember that hope is like a seed that you've got to feed and keep growing - hope can make things happen, keep it warm and close

The wait is ridiculous Pirsy, I have been told that it will be August at a minimum before I receive an appointment, wish I had known this earlier.

I am on the countdown to my holidays now, just under 3 weeks, can't wait to get away and forget about TTC for a while, although next AF will be due when I am away so am sure it will still be at the back of my mind

Snowy, great that there is a silver lining to look forward to, doesn't matter how you get your BFP so long as you get it! Nine months to get an appointment, that sounds ridiculous, is that NORMAL?

Pirsy, no getting stressed out, remember it makes it more difficult! And job every time, there is more control in the cooking, if you don't mind me asking who are you getting your kitchen from? Looking for something reasonable whilst ticking all the boxes,

Garden, have you been referred yet?

I've been doing a lot of reading (dangerous I know) and have self diagnosed myself, I think I know what my problem is - I'm not ovulating, it would explain the low progesterone, negative OPKs and irregular periods the thyroid is a by product of it (totally sure of this) but it's taken them so long to figure out I have low progesterone it feels like I have wasted a year, the aim now is to just harass my GP until they refer me or do something about it, hubby and I are booked in for the 4th of July but that seems like an impossible time to wait.

Garden you are right - its like you hear lots of people say that had given up and then it happened. I confided in a couple of people at work today and did feel better for it. One of the girls said that it took them a long time and she cant really think about the whole TTC period now because it was so difficult.

Snowy you will have a great holiday and even if AF comes while you're away you wont care I promise because you'll be enjoying yourself.

TMI we are having a Howden's kitchen. That's the company our joiner uses so we've gone with it but we're not having their appliances - we're picking those ourselves. It does sound like an ovulation problem from what you've described - I would push for a referral. Dont worry too much there is plenty they can do to help with that.