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HyCoSy and increased fertility.....?

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Vap0 · 18/02/2015 17:59

Hi

I'm booked in for a HyCoSy on 16th March, the lady who booked me in said that this scan can lead to increased fertility but couldn't tell me any more as she was not "a trained medical professional". Has anyone had a HyCoSy and had a bfp in the following 3 months? Any other info which may be helpful?

My history
Depo injection for 10 years
TTC since October 2013
OPK always negative

Thanks in advance

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Metalhead · 18/02/2015 18:11

My consultant said it might increase fertility for 2-3 months as any build up in your tubes (of what I'm not sure...) might be flushed out. Sadly it didn't work for me.

Vap0 · 18/02/2015 18:22

Metalhead thanks for the reply.
Do you mind me asking where you are up to with things?
What did they suggest after the hycosy?
They told me after that they won't see me again for 3 months after.

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Metalhead · 19/02/2015 17:54

We've had all the tests we're going to get, hycosy was the last one. As we already have one DC it's either continue ttc naturally or pay for private IVF. I'd imagine you will be referred on for treatment on the NHS if this is your first.

iwantgin · 19/02/2015 17:59

I had a hysterosalpingogram when I was having trouble conceiving. I think it must have given my tubes a good 'flush out' as I did become pregnant a couple of cycles after.

Is that the same procedure ?

ToesAndFingersCrossed · 19/02/2015 18:08

There were a few people on mumsnet in the time I've been posting in the infertility boards (4years) who got pregnant within a few months of a HyCoSy or HSG. Didn't work for me unfortunately, but it turned out our infertility was male factor (SA was good, but they only looked into other issues when we actually started IVF.). Hope it works for you!

threepiecesuite · 19/02/2015 18:12

It didn't work for me, but it did reveal a blocked tube which might explain why we've been ttc#2 for 2.5 years with no success. No other issues, ov is normal.
At my follow up, I was offered a IVF private referral but that was it. We've left it a while to save up/get our head round things but think we're going to go for it this year.

AWhistlingWoman · 19/02/2015 18:13

Worked for me (or could equally just be a coincidence)

TTC no. 3 for 14 cycles
Fell pregnant with DC3 the cycle after the HyCoSy. Swear by them as took one cycle to conceive DC4 a couple of years afterwards Grin

Good luck!

Vap0 · 19/02/2015 22:30

Best of luck to you Metalhead! I hope you get your bfp soon.

Yes this is our 1st we are trying for.

Iwantgin I think they are similar tests by the sounds of it.

Thanks for the luck toesandfingerscrossed! Everything crossed here :-)

Threepiecesuite good luck to you too with your ttc.

Thanks for all your replies! I will update after my test Smile

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scienceteachergeek · 19/02/2015 23:48

Make sure you take some pain killers beforehand. Mine was quite sore. The next thing for us is clomid as my tubes were fine and SA was normal. They wanted my tubes checking before they went ahead with clomid. Good luck x

Vap0 · 26/03/2015 07:42

Update on my HyCoSy

I went in for my procedure on 16th March, on day 2 of af only to be told I couldn't have it done when af was visiting. Very frustrating as it said this nowehere in the letter and the docs never told me about this they just said day 1-10, luckily they managed to book me in for the following Monday 23rd march.

The procedure was nowhere near as bad as a lot of posts make it sound. It was really quick, just like a smear they put the speculum in (which is half of the procedure) and they inflate a balloon inside you (this bit did hurt like hell (30 seconds max) and I was jumping off the bed, the doc described it as period pain - I'm pleased I've never had period pain like that), they then squirt some kind of dye, queue massive pain for the 2nd time again lasting about 1 minute. He showed me a black screen with a tiny bit of white. I couldnt see anything on it but he seemed to know what he was looking at...
And it was all over.
From lying down in the bed to leaving it was all of about 10 minutes.
Best news was that he couldnt see any issues, all looked normal.

I asked about increased fertility, he said that they usd to think it was because they "flushed" the tubes out although they now know it is due to the damage they cause when they are in there and as the body fixes itself for some reason you are far more likely to concieve.

I told him I was not ovulating, he thought he could see a follicle on the scan and feels it will all be sorting itself out this month especially as I have had 2 x 30 day cycles in a row. He was very positive about everything which was great although I'm not convinced - ovulation tests at the ready for Saturday onwards... Trying my best to stay very positive though.

He was going to book me in for a repeat appointment in 4 weeks after I mentioned about my lack of ovulation although they weighed me and measured me and I'm over my bmi so he extended the appointment for 10 weeks. He said clomid is the next step we will take in my next appointment. He did say it was unlikely they would need to see me again because he is pretty sure this scan will sort me out. They don't do half inches at the hospital (5'4.5") so this means I need to be down to 12.4 instead of the 12.9 I had noted. Typically they would weigh me hours after arriving home from a work trip where we were eating and drinking lots. I asked if I managed to lose the weight (9.5lbs as of Tuesday morning) would I be able to book in sooner, he said, yes of course although I really don't think we will be seeing you again. The diet began on Monday, I've upped my daily Steps from 10,000 to 15,000 and have started a diet limiting my calories to about 1500 per day. I'm determined to get rid of this weight, diet still going strong and I'm starting day 4 of my diet today. Hoping to lose 3-4lbs this week. Probably not the best time in the world to be dieting but I am not convinced about anything happening with me not ovulating and I'm desperate to be put on clomid as I believe that can be a very long journey in itself.

P.S. there was no gushing fluid for me after the procedure that I have read about in lots of posts, just the normal jelly after a smear. I don't think they use much of this dye. I went straight back to work after it with minor twinges but nothing that has laid me up. I am a pretty tough nut though. Just incase anyone else reads this thinking it is sounds like a horror story it really isn't that bad at all. A few days on and I'm still spotting from the procedure (not af). I've had a few pains also, I'm hoping that the more damage they do when they are in there the better chances I have of conceiving which is what I tell myself when it hurts.

I hope this helps anyone else who is going in for this procedure as when I looked there were very few accounts, many of which sounded awful.

Fertile window starts saturday 28th mar - Thurs 2nd apr with af due 14th April. I'll update this thread in April. Fingers crossed ??

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Vap0 · 26/03/2015 07:50

Scienceteachergeek - have up you been given clomid yet? How is it going? How long after your hycosy did you have your appointment? Did they give you a suggested timescale for clomid working? Do you take it every day of the monthly just for a few days? Sorry for all the questions...

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scienceteachergeek · 26/03/2015 12:24

I waited around month for my next appointment as it was 10th March. I'll be taking it for 4 days at the start of each cycle. They don't give everyone the ovary monitoring scans but are giving them to me. They can only give clomid for 6months so they want me to have the best chance during that time so I've delayed my treatment by three months in order to lose weight. They said that having a lower BMI gives the body the best chance of it working, although they said I could still be given it regardless of my weight (BMI 39). They will start by giving me 50mg for 3 months, see if that causes ovulation, then up my dose to 100mg for the last 3months if not. They said that 50mg is more likely to work if you have a smaller body as the concentration of drug will be higher in my body if I'm smaller. Then that means that the lower concentration might work and therefore mean I get the full 6months worth of treatment, rather than the first three months of drugs being a waste of time. Hope that makes sense!

Vap0 · 26/03/2015 13:09

Fingers crossed for you Smile
Keep me updated with your progress (if you don't mind). It will be great to hear how you get on.
Good luck!!

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Vap0 · 26/03/2015 17:10

I've received my letter through for my next appointment for 22nd June which is a 13 week wait. If nothing happens in my next couple of cycles I think I'll be going privately. There is only so much waiting I can do.

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scienceteachergeek · 12/06/2015 20:53

Hi Vap0

Did you go privately in the end? My appointment is 16th June to start the clomid. Hope you're already pregnant! x

Vap0 · 12/06/2015 21:23

2Hey science
Not pregnant I'm afraid Sad 21st cycle and counting...
I managed to rearrange my appointment so it is the middle of next month (next cycle - 22)
I've been so mad busy with work and haven't had time to think about it all too much this month at least that's what I've been telling myself. Work won't ease off until August and so can't even think about anything else until then.
Mad that work takes over my life so much. Will be working pretty much all weekend even though "apparently" I have a Monday - Friday job.
Think the work stresses aren't helping either. Although I think all these people who just say "relax" and "you're worrying too much" and "chill out and it will happen"..... Well if relaxing and not being stressed is a factor then I will never become pregnant unless I quit my job. I don't believe the only pregnant people in this world are the "relaxed" type. And if they are then I'm f*ed!
How are you getting on?
Did you get your clomid in the end?
How are you getting on with your weight?
I'm down to 12.7 or a little lower depending on the morning but they want me to be 12.4 for clomid at the hospital. I am below my bmi of 30 already but for some reason they want me lower.
Hopinf things happen this month before we will need intervention.

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Vap0 · 12/06/2015 21:30

Sorry, I actually just read your appointment is on 16th!
Good luck to you Grin
Hope I'll be joining you in July....

Mad that most people become pregnant in under 6 months but after that us "long timers" seem to take years but don't seem to get the help we need. At this rate I'll be 35 and without a child, and was hoping to have 2 in the end, not looking likely unless things happen pretty quickly now...

Wish you all the luck in the world with your clomid xxxx

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scienceteachergeek · 04/07/2015 14:27

Hi Vap0

I've read all your updates on other threads...at least you're ovulating. I wouldn't have thought they'd prescribe you that now as clomid is just for those who don't do it themselves.

I've purchased a clearblue advanced fertility monitor...really good little gadget as it lets me know what my hormones are doing. I'm now day 10 after taking clomid day 2-6 and my little gadget says high fertility' but just waiting for it to say 'peak' now. I had a follicle scan on day 7 to do a baseline test. Having another one on day 12 to see if the clomid has convinced my body to make a big enough follicle to get an egg out! Then I get one more to see if the follicle burst to release the egg.

Worst side effect I've had it that I've completely dried up!!! Sorry to be graphic but I'm just making nothing in the mucus department...not even getting wet for sex!!! Used the incredibly glamorous (not!) pre-seed which you have to inject up there 10mins before intercourse! Sex was pretty sore without it though.

So that's my update. You managed to get your appointment brought forward?

xxx

michelle1504 · 18/06/2020 16:12

@Vap0 I know that this is a really old thread however I was looking for information about fertility rates post HyCoSy on MN and came across your post! I'm booked in for one next month...just wondering if you had any luck with it? I hope you did!

Vap0 · 18/06/2020 18:13

Hi @michelle1504
I’m sorry I had even forgotten that I had had this procedure. I was reading my description of it and can’t recall it at all.
TTC was super stressful for me (as it is with everyone) as it took forever.
My problem was not something this procedure could fix. I was not ovulating. I expect due to being on the injection contraception for so long. It took my body ages to get back to normal.

As soon as I started ovulating I did get pregnant, sadly I lost my first 2 pregnancies, they were both very early on, 8 and 10 weeks I think. After my first pregnancy I was devastated as it had taken about 2 years to get to that point. I managed to get pregnant again 3 months after, lost that one and was pregnant again on my next cycle. My 3yo (4 in sept) is now climbing on me and her brother (2 years her junior) is doing the same.
I know it’s so hard but try not to lose faith.
I guess the answer here is that yes I believe that a bit of agitation does help eggs stick.
Plus, as devastating as miscarriages are a lot of people (like me) have one and your body learns from its mistakes and will eventually go on to have a successful pregnancy or 2....or more Grin

Best of luck Flowers
I know how stressful and upsetting this period of time is for you.
Try to remain positive, I know it’s so hard but it can and does happen, until then drink Wine

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michelle1504 · 22/06/2020 16:29

@Vap0 thanks for your reply. I'm really sorry for your previous losses however very happy to hear that you did get your babies in the end!

I am a bit anxious about getting the HyCoSy as I've read it can be a little painful however if you can't remember even having it done then it can't be too traumatic!

I'm trying to stay positive, it just gets harder and harder with every month that goes by. I guess what will be will be though, the only thing I can do is keep trying and hopefully we'll get there.

Thanks again :)

Kinder19 · 22/06/2020 17:02

I had a hycosy a few months ago and fell pregnant the following cycle so it worked for me to an extent. Unfortunately, I had an early loss and then the following cycle I believe I had a chemical.

Trying to stay positive in that things are moving in the right direction and I definitely do think the hycosy helped so hopefully it will help you too and we both get good news soon. I think my cycles are still settling down after a crazy couple of months.

@Vap0 your post is really helpful and helps me to think positively as well - thank you for sharing. Good tip on drinking haha I’m always panicking about that! X

michelle1504 · 22/06/2020 20:45

@Kinder19 I actually had an HSG (similar to the HyCoSy in that they flush the tubes but a different method) in January and also fell pregnant but had a loss. So I do think the tube flushing works. I wasn't sure if the HyCoSy would be as effective in that respect but from hearing of others experiences, it seems it may be.

Hopefully we both fall pregnant soon, there's nothing worse than hoping and praying then getting your period and knowing that you're out for another month.

Kinder19 · 22/06/2020 21:34

Yeah I think it definitely does for some people.

I thought it would be one or the other - HSG or Hycosy, didn’t think they’d do both. That’s interesting. Good luck with it and I hope you are pregnant very soon!

TTC2021baby · 22/06/2020 21:55

I have a HyCosy tomorrow so will update this thread at the end of this cycle - will be CD8 tomorrow so should have a chance this month!

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