HCG Levels of 27 at 5 weeks, any advice???

[beckyjones]

Hi- I have just gone for a scan due to a previous ectopis 4 years ago. My last AF was Sept 10th so the doctors thinks I am 5 weeks exactly.

I had a scan and they found nothing except some free fluid around my right ovary where I had lost my right tube.

My HCG levels were 27 today and I have to go back for a further test on Thursday but the doctor has basically told me I have miscarried.

Has anyone else known of this to happen and the pregnancy turn out to be normal, or shall I accept that I have had an early miscarriage.

Any advce would be really welcome

BUMP

Sorry to hear of your worry Becky.
I can't help I'm afraid but I'm sure someone will know.
X

im soarry,buat i think thea pregnancy hasnt progressed.
less than one is not pregnant. levels in the thousands is pregnant. aat five weeks the should have been able to see a gestational sac.
lots of positive vibes for you

Thanks Stitch, your honesty helped, I find that I grasp at straws!
I have no pains what so ever, my tummy is soft, my boobs are massive.. when do you think I will experience the 'loss' ie. bleeding...

It scares me that it could be floating around somewhere.

As mentioned I lost a tube last time and they scanned me today- to make things worse I have a tilted Uterus so they couldn't see extremely well because my bowels were in the way- very exciting for the medical student who requested a freeze frame of the scan! Not so great for me.

When they scanned me she thought she saw somethin in my uterus but couldn't confirm it. I also had a vaginal scan which again was quite uncomfortable due to my uterus because backward, apparently this corrects itself, they couldn't see anything in the tubes, but there was fluid around my ovary which is apparently a symptom of ectopic's.

I am scared of having another firstly because the first one nearly killed me as it went undiagnosed and secondly because I only have the one tube!

This is anightmare, in a way I just want to bleed to know that it is cleansing my system.

Thanks Stitch, your honesty helped, I find that I grasp at straws!
I have no pains what so ever, my tummy is soft, my boobs are massive.. when do you think I will experience the 'loss' ie. bleeding...

It scares me that it could be floating around somewhere.

As mentioned I lost a tube last time and they scanned me today- to make things worse I have a tilted Uterus so they couldn't see extremely well because my bowels were in the way- very exciting for the medical student who requested a freeze frame of the scan! Not so great for me.

When they scanned me she thought she saw somethin in my uterus but couldn't confirm it. I also had a vaginal scan which again was quite uncomfortable due to my uterus because backward, apparently this corrects itself, they couldn't see anything in the tubes, but there was fluid around my ovary which is apparently a symptom of ectopic's.

I am scared of having another firstly because the first one nearly killed me as it went undiagnosed and secondly because I only have the one tube!

This is anightmare, in a way I just want to bleed to know that it is cleansing my system.

Thanks Stitch, your honesty helped, I find that I grasp at straws!
I have no pains what so ever, my tummy is soft, my boobs are massive.. when do you think I will experience the 'loss' ie. bleeding...

It scares me that it could be floating around somewhere.

As mentioned I lost a tube last time and they scanned me today- to make things worse I have a tilted Uterus so they couldn't see extremely well because my bowels were in the way- very exciting for the medical student who requested a freeze frame of the scan! Not so great for me.

When they scanned me she thought she saw somethin in my uterus but couldn't confirm it. I also had a vaginal scan which again was quite uncomfortable due to my uterus because backward, apparently this corrects itself, they couldn't see anything in the tubes, but there was fluid around my ovary which is apparently a symptom of ectopic's.

I am scared of having another firstly because the first one nearly killed me as it went undiagnosed and secondly because I only have the one tube!

This is anightmare, in a way I just want to bleed to know that it is cleansing my system.

I'm very, very sorry Becky, but if your dates are right, 27 is too low.

At 5 weeks it is too early to see anything but (possibly) a sac on ultrasound, so I'm afraid there's probably no getting a definite diagnosis just yet.

Please make sure you get another blood test in (ideally) 2 days to see what is happening to the hCG.

Poor you, how sad and how frightening.

I know its scarey, the consultant today didn't seem overly concerned I think he thinks it will come away naturally but it is just scarey because I find myself imaging pains that aren't there in a panic about whether it could be eptopic.

I have had a long chat with my husband tonight, I feel like just throwing the tool in, the heart ache is too much and also with my history I am frightened for my own health.. I think it will take more than baby dust to make me a mum...

Oh Becky, I'm very sorry. I have had two experiences of getting pregnant and then, at five weeks, having test sticks turning negative. The first time I did indeed miscarry, the second time I didn't - but I think this was probably the fault of the test, or my over-diluted urine or something. In your case, with a diagnosed low HCG level, I have to say I think you should prepare yourself for the worst. You will probably start bleeding in a couple of days.

I do understand how heartbreaking this is for you - I've been there. So very sorry that you are going through this. Take lots of care.

Thanks Hester- I will be positive but I know the outcome will be sad, I have to be strong for my husband too.
I think if you want it as much as we do we would see a negative test as a positive, my husband is convinced that my HCG levels may increase when I go back to hospital on Thurs, only for me to have to deliver the news again when they aren't.

I'm jst hoping I won't have to have any proceedures to clean my system, but conisdering there couldn't see anything in the scans it should come away naturally.

thanks you for your support x

becky, this happend to me a few years ago. when i did bleed, it was just like a normal period, and tbh, if i hadnt doen the tests and scan etc, i wouldnt have thought it wasaaany thing other than a normal period.
i cant give you any advice re the ectopic, except that aas you have had one before, they will be keeping a much much closeer eye on you. hence the blood tests and scans.
aas for being a mom. giving birth does not make one a mom. caring for the child makes a mother. im sure you will make a wonderful mother to some beautiful baby sometime soon.

I am sorry you are going through this Becky. I had a similar experience in March when I was delighted to be preg and had a beta hcg level of 38.4 on day 30 and the clinic wanted it to be 80-100 for that day. I then had another test on day 36 and the levels had gone to 182 which they said was still too low as the levels should double every other day. The fetus produces the beta hcg level and the results determin the health/viability of the fetus. Then on day 40 I had a result of 1851 which the dr was pleased with but then I went for a scan on day 44 when they saw something in the uterus and something on the tube and the dr was alarmed with a reading of 1851 as this could rupture my tube. He rechecked my result with the lab and it was actually 185.1 so panic over. Another blood test that day showed that the levels were dropping and I took evening primrose oil 500mg 3 times a day and started to miscarry on day 48. It was an awful experience as when I was told the levels were too low I didn't want to believe them. With your levels there is no danger if there is an ectopic preg but you do need to be scanned and your blood tested to monitor you. I know it's awful, I hope you have a supportive DH.

Thanks stitch.. I will let you know on Thursday how it all panned out. Sorry for being so down in the dumps it is just so hard to pick yourself up after something like this.

My husband and I haveseriously considered adoption before this recent episode, so I believe totally in motherhood being centred around caring for a child. Adoption isn't everyone's cup of tea but there are so many unwanted babies/children- it is an option that we are not quite ready to follow up but may well do in the future.

Thank you again- x

Thank you shouldknowbyfriday- I pulled up an old thread of yours when I was looking up low levels earlier tonight, my heart went out to you, I just feel so sad.

Did you start trying again straight away.. I don't want to be defeatist but I just feel so redundant at the moment.

I had to wait a month and then had 3 more months of clomid which didn't result in a pregnancy so went onto injectibles. My first cycle has resulted in triplets (have seen all 3 heartbeats) and I am 7wks and 3 days preg so a better result this time but I will have to go for an embryo reduction around 12 weeks as I don't want triplets (I already have 2 small children) and also the viability of carrying triplets is low. So not out of the woods yet. Don't give up, I have just turned 42 and I am sure you are younger. I also have a tilted uterus but that didn't stop me getting preg! I didn't want a d and c when my levels were low and I began the eve prim oil on the saturday and got a show of blood on the sunday. Maybe take that to help?

It's normal that you feel so low and that your world has come crashing down. It's an awful experience. At least though you are aware that this preg isn't going to develop so you have the benefit of knowing earlier but it still doesn't make it any easier. Do rest and take care. I remember thinking that there was going to be alot of bleeding and it was just like a heavy period and no more painful physically. I was very sad too.

I have been there too, Becky. I have had three miscarriages, all early but all very different - the first one particularly as marked by low hCG levels.

We have always taken the 'try as soon as possible' route, but it carries its own risks. Miscarriage takes away the 'innocence' of pregnancy and getting pg soon after a mc can make for a very, very anxious time.

BTW, during the scans etc. during my third mc (I also have a ds) the doctor remarked on my uterus being tilted backwards instead of forward as per the norm - said it is unusual (so of course was rather interested) but doesn'r cause any problems.