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dizzy36 · 30/09/2006 11:31

was just surfing the net to found out about perimenopause as just been told am in that stage of my life! came across a site about a natural product called ovulex. anyone heard of it? read some sucess stories on the site, one of which was a person in perimenopaue.
rather expensive (aren't they always!) but what do you think...gimic or worth at try

Didn't sign off for long did I!!

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 30/09/2006 12:55

Having looked at their website I am still wondering what is in those tablets as there is no ingrediants list. That makes me think. It also has a very good sales pitch but that's all the site contains.

Its expensive as well. I would not want you to potentially waste your hard earnt cash on it.

ShouldKnowByFriday · 02/10/2006 10:22

Hello Dizzy, I have been wondering how you are since reading your post saying that your fsh levels have gone up. My levels were 10.2 on the last cycle and the dr still let me go ahead and I have eventually got a positive result. I am sorry though that you feel you have reached the end of your tether and road but would encourage you to research how to reduce your fsh levels. I can't remember your age and circumstances, etc (apologies) but I was told by the nurse at the clinic that she has seen fsh levels drop with patients having acupuncture. I know that you have been seeing an acupuncturist for a year but maybe you need to see one who specialises in fertility? This month I gave up alcohol and caffeine and took Milk Thistle to really boost my system. I really feel for you as I know how hard the whole thing is, I had been trying for 2.5years and on fertility treatment and all those visits since February and acupuncture and reflexology since the summer and it really is draining and turning 42 in September I did wonder if I would ever succeed. As for Ovulex, I would avoid something found on the internet, it sounds like a con and I am suspicious of a drug where there is no ingedients.

dizzy36 · 02/10/2006 13:20

skbf - you mean you are pregnant? thats wonderful, congratulations.

To be honest I wasn't intending to post again but after my meeting with the head of the hospital I was even more confused and fed up. My FSH came down to 13.8 month after the previous month which was 20. The Dr, who clearly had not looked through my file prior to me seeing him, decided that I am in the perimenopause part of my life and chance of pregnancy with ivf or naturally are practically zero. I don't beleive this is true.

When he was saying it I knew he was talking absolute rot as my fsh could quite easily go down to 10 in which case I could do IVF. He also said that the higher the oestrogen level is on day 2 the worse things get...I don't think this is true either, oestrogen levels have to nice and high to acheive ovulation. Referred to himself as Professor so don't even know how qualified he is.

We are going to continue to try naturally. He basically confirmed what I thought all along which is that my elevated fsh is most probably the reason I have not conceived yet. By making changes I can try and bring my fsh down and hopefully have a window of opportunity to conceive in the near future

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ShouldKnowByFriday · 02/10/2006 13:33

Crickey Dizzy, what a variation. My fsh in January 2006 was 7.2 and when retested in August was 10.2. I voiced my concern to my Ob's wife (also an Ob) who said if you test every month, you would get an average for the year and that would be your reading. So because you were 20 which is high, if you continued to test you may have a much more reduced average. I was .2 over what they like to see and I still succeeded. I don't know where you live but if you are in London would definitely recommend my clinic where I have had the best of care and ALL of my questions answered. I have never been fobbed off and nor would I stand that. Regarding your oestrogen level, I presume that I was I have written as E2? In January my level was 77 and in August it was 86. What were your levels? I feel from your post that you feel you haven't had a fair chance at this ttcing due to the lack of care and possibly knowledge of your current clinic. I went to the ACU which is the private clinic of University College Hospital located in Grays Inn Road, WC1 or WC2. Would you consider having a consultation with them? EvansG on the other thread 'FAO ShouldKnowByFriday' has taken my recommendation and is going on 11 October as their treatment got me pregnant.

dizzy36 · 03/10/2006 11:16

thank you skbf. I left the last consultation agreeing with the dr in that I should cease fertility treatment and enjoy the child I have (his words!) with an fsh of 20 ivf would not work which I was aware of. Now that I have thought about it the dr has basically written me off just because I had one very high fsh. I'm not sure what to do. I'm from cheshire and I don't think going to a clinic in london would be an option for me....I would gladly do it but my dh would not...he insists we have a better chance naturally...he could be right.

My focus has gone, I am confused and am uncertain if the choices I am making from now are the right ones.

With regards to oestrogen, I have had conflicting info. When my fsh has been high my oestrogen has been low (around 83), my gp said it would be unlikely that I ovulated with such a low oestrogen. However, the good doctor at the clinic said high levels (over 180!) signify decrease in fertility. Who is right? I don't know, my tests suggest the gp is right as when my fsh was 20 my oestrogen was 83 and when my fsh has been at its lowest, 12.2, oestrogen levels were around 130.

I have zita wests book and am working hard to lower my fsh.

I have been trying to research about perimenopause and chances of conceiving naturally while in that phase. zita west says it is difficult but not impossible. Not much on the internet about it. My GP says will take me longer to conceive and my consultant says its nigh impossible, again, who is right

It upsets me greatly that my little boy may be an only child, he would so love a little brother or sister.

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dizzy36 · 03/10/2006 11:19

ps skbf - I firmly beleive the chlomid caused my fsh to go sky high and not perimenopause. The consultant told me that I should not have prescribed chlomid as it would not have any effect on me. It certainly did have any effect on me as it caused me to ovulate late the 1st month and caused changes in my cycle the following month. Obviously he denied that the chlomid could do this.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 03/10/2006 12:41

dizzy36,

www.ivf1.com/Clomid-Challenge-Test

You may find the above link to be of interest.

From my understanding I understand that clomid encourages the ovaries to work harder, more LH can be produced by clomid (hence it should be used with a degree of caution in women who have PCO or PCOS).

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