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RANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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pickle84 · 18/09/2014 22:41

Im sorry if some people are offended by this post, or think im being untoward in any way but i have seriously had enough!!!!!!!!!!
DH and i lost a little boy at 28 weeks at the beginning of the year and have been trying to conceive ever since, with absolutely no luck!! i think i may have had a couple of chemicals where i have had a positive HPT and started bleeding like a week later, we are doing everything right at the right time with the right tools, and still nothing?!?!?!
Yet there is people out there that are on their 5th child, however the previous 4 look like they've never seen a happy day in their little lives, a woman who had her first child taken off her, is currently pregnant with her 3rd by 3 different men, a woman where i take my son to school is due in 10 weeks and i overheard her talking saying she was 'absolutely paro' at the weekend whilst puffing away on her 4th cigarette in a row, how are these cretins allowed to reproduce, why dont they realise that what they have is the most precious thing in the world and they are so lucky to have a successful pregnancy, i want to shake them!!!!!
i have never been so unhappy, im so fed up,
again i really hope i havent offended anyone i just needed to get this of my chest
:(

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Sleepyfergus · 18/09/2014 22:46

Be prepared to be flamed! But I know exactly what you mean, it's like rubbing your nose in it when you're trying so hard to conceive, with the added heartache of losing a child.

We ttc for 3.5 years with one mc before getting pregnant with dd1 and it was an emotional rollercoaster and at times, both me and my DH were very unhappy, plus frustrating and seemingly very unfair and unjust.

I really hope you conceive soon and have a h&h pregnancy. Best of luck!

AndIFeedEmGunpowder · 18/09/2014 22:51

pickle I am so, so sorry you lost your son. Flowers

I agree it's unbelievably unfair and I really hope you get your baby soon.

BitchPeas · 18/09/2014 22:56

I've lost a baby and I know exactly how you feel. I was just so angry, at times I felt the venom coming out of every pore. I felt like I would explode.

But, I only started to feel better when I let it go, their babies are not my babies, my troubles aren't their problem, their troubles aren't my problem.

Life is unfair and shit. Be kind to yourself. Thanks

pickle84 · 18/09/2014 23:05

thank you ladies,
im so frustrated i cry all the time, how is it fair that they can reproduce at the drop of a hat and were having such difficulty
im so sorry for your loss Bitchpeas
thank you for your kind words Sad

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Sleepyfergus · 18/09/2014 23:13

I know you've probably read everything and tried everything under the sun, but what helped for me when ttc dd2 (I only conceived dd1 thanks to fertility treatment) was using a Clearblue fertility Monitor. You can pick one up 2nd hand on eBay relatively cheaply and the sticks Rent too bad if you shop around (Amazon or some online pharmacies)

Just a thought? I also used Agnus Castus (try Holland and Barrett) as it's supposedly natures equivalent of clomid.

Hope you don't mind me suggesting.

Nona20 · 19/09/2014 01:18

You have every right to be angry, it took me a long time to stop seeing red when I saw my bratty (16 yr old then) sil pregnant.
I nearly burst in to tears when he told me she was accidentally pregnant again after having to hear how it sucks so much to be a young mum. This was after 6 months of ttc with no success, now nearly 1 year ttc.
Good luck with ttc dc2!

Gemerama82 · 19/09/2014 08:06

So sorry for your loss. I haven't been what you've been through but I have similar thoughts when I see such people or people screaming and swearing at their children. I know we'd be amazing parents and it feels so unfair when its not happening for us when for some it seems like shelling peas...

pickle84 · 19/09/2014 10:33

hi sleepyfergus
i have been using a clear blue fertility monitor and also using dual hormone clear blue opk, And also taking agnus castus, lol great minds!!! but i wasnt too sure how much i should have been taking so i was only taking 2 tablets a day, 200mg i think.
Also using, preseed, it seems like nothing i do works :(
thank you nona20 and Gemerama82
youve all been so kind with your words :)

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OliviaRinHerts · 19/09/2014 10:47

Pickle- I'm so sorry for your loss. I had a miscarriage and an ectopic (I'm nearly 40) and although I can't say I know exactly what you are going through - I do know exactly what you mean. It's not fair and some people don't appreciate what they have. I saw on another thread / forum once (fertility friends) that someone has posted "it is not a question of if but a question of when" so have faith and keep positive . I know it's hard but there is so much evidence to show that keeping positive helps so even if you have to kid your self just believe your bundle of joy is around the corner.

pickle84 · 20/09/2014 15:41

thank you OliviaRinHerts
your right i must try and stay positive, as hard as it may be,
i cant believe how many people have been so lovely, i expected alot of backlash if im honest but you have all been so kind :)
thank you so much xxx

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Choccyhobnob · 29/09/2014 15:39

I feel the same way hun, I know someone my age, 4 kids (one living with his dad, 3 taken by SS and adopted) and she's pregnant again (would be her 8th pregnancy including terminations and MCs). Never worked a day in her life. And I can't even pregnant once, makes me Sad

Babyh200 · 29/09/2014 19:42

Hello pickles,
Your post really struck a chord with me. My son was stillborn 5 days before my planned section in July 2012. You must feel like the whole world is against you. I remember thinking....'why has someone inflicted this hell on me? Why my baby?' And yes, there are people who seem to take their pregnancies for granted and yet the decent couples end up with empty arms. I was in a similar position to you and as the months rolled by I started to think it would never happen....if anything I was becoming more and more depressed thinking I would never get pregnant again.
All I can say is to take the advice of BITCHPEAS which is to try to let go a little bit. I had a clear blue fertility monitor and was just completely desperate....so in the January of 2013, 6 months after my beautiful boy died I decided I needed to look to the future and stop hiding away from the world. I realised I had cut myself off from my friends because I felt like they didn't understand and I was just so consumed with grief. So I stopped using the CBFM and started to focus on life, spent time with my friends, planned a holiday with my family, I did anything I could to occupy myself.
Can you imagine my surprise when I conceived the following month? My rainbow baby was born last October and it was a terribly long road.

There is hope pickles, I promise you x

Babyh200 · 29/09/2014 19:54

By the way, I wasn't suggesting you stop using the CBFM, I know they work well for some people. I felt outraged when my mum and other people suggested I was stressed out and I insisted that I wasn't, but I can look back now and realise I WAS completely stressed out!!!Who wouldn't be? I was so angry that I had carried my baby for 9 months and then he died. Remember, no matter how much you judge those cigarette smokers, junkies alcoholics etc Deep down you wouldn't wish such tragic events on anyone, not even your worst enemy!!

impatientlywaiting14 · 29/09/2014 21:13

Hi Pickle

I Just wanted to start by saying I am so sorry to hear of the loss of your precious boy, that must be a truly horrendous thing to go through Sad.
I hope you received lots of support and was shown lots of understanding to try and make such a horrible time more bearable. I know some people can be really insensitive to these things which only makes it all the more painful.

I lost my first pregnancy May this year at 5 weeks, which I know pales in comparison to what you have been through. It was personally, for me, the most horrible thing I had been through. I had been diagnosed with endometrisos last year and was really concerned about being able to conceive and didn't want to put things off. But I was advised to wait for (another) medical procedure and could finally try 10 months later and was delighted when I got my positive. When I got the news of the scan I was told by friends and family "at least it was only early" and "at least you know you can get pregnant" and I tried being brave and agreeing and staying "positive" as that's what i was constantly told to do.

But around a week later it really hit me what had happened and it really hurt the things people said. People see me down and thought they were being encouraging by saying not to dwell and move on. I know this was meant with good intention as they didn't want to see me hurting, But it felt they were telling me to move on and forget my baby like its life didn't mean anything. I also felt that because it was so early I was expected to get over it more or less straight away and I didn't feel justified in feeling upset or a loss.

I was feeling better about things but this week I am feeling like you, in need of a rant as I have had a friend act insensitively (again) regarding her brothers girlfriends pregnancy and sending me a 4d scan picture (she sent a text asking if i wanted to see it, then sent it anyway!). I feel like saying look i don't know them, to me they are just another lucky couple that manged to do things right and rub it in mine and my partners face. But of course I wouldn't say it.

I totally get what you are saying about people not appreciating what they have. I get sick of hearing people complaining about there kids or seeing people putting statuses/comments on fb talking about how there kids are being little so and so's. I get it kids can be stressful but do you really have to publicize it? how would there kids feel if they was to see that post/comment in years to come? it makes me feel these people don't know how lucky they really are. Then probably quite unfairly I get annoyed at people posting pics of their babys/kids every five minutes telling us what a wonderful family and world they have. Makes me Sad. I have seen so many people smoke through pregnancy too and drink and it makes me feel they have no regards for their growing child and they should treat it with precious care.

The thing that's really got my goat though is my friend behaving the way she is, on top of another pregnancy announcement (from her down the road who's just had a baby) a possible pregnancy and a friend that is due her baby. I feel terrible about including my friend who's having her baby and the possible pregnancy announcement in this, as its two people I love very much.

I have made very effort to support my pregnant friend and embrace things but it has been tough, especially as her best friend has treated her badly due to her not liking the fact my friend is pregnant. Its been a strain. I know it must sound terribly selfish but i thought with her coming to the end of the pregnancy things will be easier, But now I (most likely) have to start the trying journey all over again with the new announcement. I don't want to sound unkind or bitter I just want you to know I sympathize with your frustration.

I wanted to suggest a site if that's ok the miscarriage association which is a great site and has a helpful forum. it also has a section called marking the loss and information on memorial services. I don't want to ask you what you did in regards to a service and upset you. I just hope you felt what you chose to do honored him in the way you wanted. Also in the marking the loss section is The meadow of love, which is a lovely place to put a message for your baby if you would like too it. There is also the lights of love tree to remember you baby at Christmas. The messages stay there indefinitely. The miscarriage forum on this site is also great if your feeling down and need people that understand how your feeling. I posted on there regarding my miscarriage and how my friend has hurt me. I expected a lot of "its time to get over it comments" and people saying im being over sensitive. I got a lot of really helpful responses instead.

I really wish you all the best and hope you get your rainbow baby soon [[hugs]] Flowers Flowers Flowers

impatientlywaiting14 · 29/09/2014 21:19

Sorry that meant to read Forget-me-not-meadow, not meadow of love although that would be a fitting name xx

LittleTulip · 29/09/2014 21:24

Just wanted to say you aren't alone.

I conceived my first last year after ttc for 18 months - only to have a stillbirth at 25 weeks.

Have been ttc since with no luck - things got bad to worse, found out I have a blocked tube and have now been referred for ivf.

I feel your pain. We just have to get through I know in my heart there is light at the end of the tunnel x

leanne963 · 29/09/2014 21:31

Oh Pickle Bless your heart. I really really feel for you. I am so sorry for your loss i wish you all the luck in the world to be holding a little baby in your arms soon enough.
I understand the way you feel, it is like 'HOW can bad people get all the luck and the good people of the world face constant barriers.' Makes you feel hopeless. But since coming onto MumsNet i have realised that it is not hopeless. The amount of painful stories i have read which have a happy ending are overwhelming, your time will come and i hope that you remain strong til then!!! Big hug!!

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