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enocar · 17/01/2014 10:13

Having a low day, just finished 2nd cycle of clomid and so hoping that it will work this month :( Have one more cycle then 2 months to wait for an appointment with my fertility consultant which normally I want to hurry up as I want to find out what's next to help me get pregnant, but not this time :( When I saw her last she said I had unexplained fertility, (having only had blood tests and a dye test to check for blockages, all clear, and my husband's sperm results came back fine) and it was only a matter of time before I was pregnant (try convincing someone who hasn't been ttc for nearly a decade!) and that she would write to my gp :( I convinced her to prescribe me the clomid, as she had mentioned it the previous appointment. I had hoped I would be given tests during the clomid cycles to see if it was working, but nothing was mentioned. So it obviously didn't work first time and if it doesn't work on the last clomid cycle I'm worried that's it, no more help :( Anyone had unexplained fertility been sent back to gp? What happened? I'm worried my gp's just going to say well it's unexplained nothing we can do :(( I'm 33 and my husband is 28

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enocar · 17/01/2014 11:52

No one? :(

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OrangeFizz99 · 17/01/2014 12:11

enocar there are quite a few thread on here where people who have been ttc for a while chat and support each other. Might be best to have read and see if feel any of those threads might be able to help you?

lifehasafunnywayofhelpinguout · 17/01/2014 12:15

Hi sorry you're feeling down. Also sorry it's taken while for anyone to answer or if these threads have came over as being a bit clique do I dare say. You'll have to excuse me but I don't know anything about clomid. What is it, if you don't mind me asking.
If it's any consolation I'm also feeling a bit down as well. A.F here with a damn vengence.

I hope things work out for you. Love and thoughts. xxx

enocar · 17/01/2014 12:34

Thanks both xxx I've been searching for an answer to my question but for the most part the couple's who are in the unexplained category I find then go on to ivf and other methods of conceiving, but my consultant mentioned none of these options and just said that she had done all the tests and that was basically her work done :( Just after her oh it's only a matter of time attitude last visit I'm scared I'm going to be left with no hope of getting pregnant :( I really thought that going to my gp and being sent to the fertility specialist would be the answer to my prayers :( I'm worried about being sent back to my gp and he does nothing as I'm unexplained, sometimes I wonder if it would be easy if I had something wrong then least they try n fix it!! I can't cope anymore with finding out ppl who became pregnant after I had been trying for years are again pregnant with their 2/3/4 baby :'(

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enocar · 17/01/2014 12:40

Sorry life, clomid is a fertility drug meant to boost chances of conceiving, apparently I ovulate naturally but only just according to my first blood test results and poss pcos, but then on follow up blood test she said my results were normal, but I asked for the clomid when she said that was it back to gp with unexplained fertility :/ I'm on it cycle day 2-6 50mg to boost my ovulation.

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eurochick · 17/01/2014 12:40

I'm sorry you are in this situation.

Have you looked at the IVF criteria for your PCT to see whether you would be eligible? Unfortunately, in many cases, people need to be very proactive and push their drs to get what they are entitled to.

BTW, we were unexplained and we were referred for IVF. We were entitled to one round. I ended up self-funding additional rounds and after one mc I am currently newly pregnant again after my 4th go. It has been a very long road, but clearly IVF gets over whatever undiagnosed problem we have as I have never been pregnant without it.

Bumpforme2014 · 17/01/2014 12:44

Enocar I really feel for you, life can be so cruel sometimes, I understand you wanting a reason but I guess at least there isn't anything drastically wrong and you are still young! It will defo happen it can take years for some and five mins for others but you'll be amazing mum when it does happen as you'll appreciate it more than most!

Have you tried herbal remedies ? NHS don't care you should maybe think about going private?

I wish you all the luck in the world, you'll get there!

enocar · 17/01/2014 13:13

I've looked at the criteria for ivf funding in wales and I would be eligable if it was thought that it would help with pregnancy. But like I said there's been no mention of any more tests from consultant, she's prob just going to send a letter to gp next time I go to see her :( Unless I do end up pregnant before then. I know I should be grateful nothing has been found to be wrong, just the unexplained part leaves more questions than answers, I really thought they would find something after 10 years ttc :(

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 17/01/2014 13:24

Do you at heart feel that you have been thoroughly investigated enough as a couple?. From what you've written about the tests some have been missed out. Have they ever assessed you to see if there are any auto immune problems or clotting problems?. Have they been thorough enough with his semen analyses (plural as one is by no means conclusive).

The most common tests that tend to be omitted are:-

Adequate x-rays of the uterus which may show abnormalities not otherwise seen at laparoscopy.

Hysteroscopy - telescope inspection of the inside of the uterus which may occasionally show abnormalities not seen otherwise

Repeated sperm counts over several weeks and months to make sure there is no subtle abnormality

Testing the sperm in special media such as swim up tests like velocity testing. However, when they are done, they often uncover a hidden cause for the supposed unexplained problem

Thorough hormone tests to detect abnormalities of male hormone or early falls in progesterone

Scanning of the ovaries to see if follicles really are developing and there are no sign of polycystic ovaries.

Unexplained is not a diagnosis at all; what this means is that they have failed to find out what is wrong. Its often given to couples when they as a couple have not been adequately investigated as well.

Any test result over 6 months old should be discounted; you both need up to date test results. My guess too is that you have not had all the tests done either and are in this limbo.

You need to go back to the GP and ask to be re-referred to another subfertility unit preferably in a large city. It is fair to say that in the NHS at least some of them are far better than others. The people you have previously seen seem to have just written you off.

enocar · 17/01/2014 13:49

I've had blood tests and a hsg and husband had one sperm test and that's it, I had to ask for the hsg as she said about clomid and I said well you haven't checked tubes yet or for any blockages that would stop clomid working anyway :/ by her reaction at the time she hadn't realised I hadn't had one! And when I went back a few months after the hsg, she said are you pregnant? Obviously not :/ And then she said that she had done what was required of her (in a matter of words) and would write to my gp to say I was unexplained :( I just don't know what to do next :( What can the gp do? He's already sent me to a fertility consultant, if she can't/won't help then what chance do I have :(

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HampshireBlues · 17/01/2014 19:08

I'm a little surprised by the FC consultant to be honest. As far as I am aware (no means an expert though) Clomid is no longer recommended for unexplained fertility. We've been diagnosed with unexplained fertility - had the usual bloods, HyCOSy and SA. Having tried for 2 1/2 years the next step for us is assisted conception. We are too old (I am only 35) to be treated on the NHS so are at a private clinic starting IVF treatment.

Being told you have unexplained fertility should not be the end of things. I would expect your consultant to at the least re-do bloods before the next appointment and then reassess.

I really hope you start to get the support you need.

enocar · 17/01/2014 20:33

I have been looking at the updated procedures they are supposed to follow and yes clomid isn't supposed to be prescribed but having waited another 3 months for an appointment and then being told just keep trying, I was happy to leave there with the prescription, again hoping it was the answer I been waiting for :/ again setting myself up for a big fall :( Now I'm left feeling like this is it, I just don't know how sending me back to my gp is going to help :( I know I'm just going to fall to pieces if in 3 months time she says the same again, and just says that her work is done, why isn't sheltering me any options :s

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enocar · 17/01/2014 20:34

Her predictive text why isn't she offering me anymore options it's meant to say

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HampshireBlues · 17/01/2014 21:39

Being told to keep trying is not good enough. I'd try and angle for a second opinion. Are you seeing a consultant who specialises in IVF? Or is this at your local hospital? Most district generals don't do IVF so refer to a specialist centre. Perhaps the gp can help.

Please don't despair, there will be someone out there who can help you get the advice / help / treatment.you need. Are there any local support groups?

enocar · 17/01/2014 21:45

Feel so low, in tears most of the day, feel like I'm going alone here, so sorry if I go on a bit in my posts :( Just I feel like I'm not even getting the support from my husband, friends, family, I've got no one to talk to who understands how I'm feeling :( I feel like I'm falling apart inside :( I want to convince myself that if I never become a mum then I have my 2 dogs and how perhaps life would be good without having kids, but I can't, I want it so bad, it kills me each time I see a friend is pregnant, sounds horrid but I can't congratulate them anymore, it hurts too much :( My husband does not understand, prime example is telling me one of our friends told him she went for an abortion as she mucked up n got pregnant (she already has a 13 yr old child, conceived when I was ttc with an ex) see how long I've waited :( I didn't need to be told this :(

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enocar · 17/01/2014 21:52

It's at a local hospital with a fertility consultant. Husband's come home I'm in tears he just says keep oh we will have to keep trying....this is the support I have :(

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HampshireBlues · 20/01/2014 17:15

Hi sorry for not posting back - been one of those weekends! I think that you need to see if you can get a referral to a specialist center for fertility as I think that they will be able to provide the right support and advice - as I said, being told to keep trying is not the answer.

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