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Quick Poll Please... do you have PCOS & gone on to concieve?

58 replies

pussycatmomma · 26/07/2006 23:23

Thats it really ladies, I am having problems and gyny is suggesting pcos is the culprit. TTC and just wondered how feasible this is all going to be.
Thanks guys xxx

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expatinscotland · 28/07/2006 13:28

I have two daughters, both conceived after 6 months of ttc w/no assistance.

Have always had regular periods, although I do have acne related to my cycle.

aragon · 28/07/2006 13:35

Hi,

I have PCOS and had problems concieving. Got pg once alone and miscarried then got pg again after three months of Clomid. DS is now 3.5 and fabulous. Haven't been successful in having any more babies but I am 40 now so age is probably against me too. IT does happen - hang on in there.

CarolinaMoose · 28/07/2006 13:37

wantababy, I don't remember being nauseous, but I definitely felt v weird - very lacking in energy (literally couldn't get out of bed one morning ), but that settled down within a week or so.

I started taking it right after a bleed induced by Provera (I think? progesterone tablets), had a period a month later, and conceived 2 weeks after that period.

I kept taking metformin until I was 12 weeks pg, as I'd read that it can reduce the risk of pcos-related mc (and I was 8 weeks before I realised I was pg anyway ). My consultant was ok with that.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 28/07/2006 15:16

Wantababynow,

Of course you can look at Verity!!. Know of some non UK residents who look at this site.

Losing weight with PCOS is difficult bcause some women with this can become insulin resistant. Not altogether surprised to read that you lost weight then put it all and then some back on. It does happen with this condition.

Persona is a machine that measures LH levels. You do not want to use a machine like this or ovulation predictor kits (this also measures LH). As many women with PCOS produce higher than average levels of LH hormone the kit will just read that and therefore give you a false positive result. These kits generally work on two principles; namely that a rise in LH is immediately followed by ovulation and women ahve one rise in LH every month. Both of these statement are not true.

Toni Weshler's book is about temp charting. Again little to no use at all if you have PCOS as you will end up with a chart that is impossible to determine with any degree of accuracy. Blood tests will determine with accuracy whether you have ovulated in any given month.

Metformin does have side effects; it can primarily affect bowel movements so a toilet is very handy to be near.

The causes of PCOS are not fully understood although there may be a genetic element passed down from the male side. There is no evidence to suggest that the pill is responsible for failure to ovulate but what the pill actually also does is mask the symptoms of the underlying problem (PCOS) which has always been present.

WantAbabyNOW · 29/07/2006 01:14

Thanks everyone for your advice

I agree about the pill... I think it just hid all the problems that were already going on... A quick fix.. not!

Don't think I will worry about the persona anymore or even the microscope.. since they wont be of much help but might look into the Provera as am really tired of waiting for af to grace me with her presence! I think I am day 63 now!

Thanks to everyone for their advice and own stories.. you guys are all wonderful and very encouraging!

Isn't this website addictive!!

CHUNKYMUNKEY · 29/07/2006 20:02

I have one dd nearly 5 who wasn't planned and now trying for baby no 2 and have suspected pcos. I usually only have one AF a year. I have lost three stone in weight and have had 4 AF's this year alone which i am really pleased about, i think controlling your weight seems to be a factor I have had some tests and am due to do some more. Good Luck.

aitch71 · 29/07/2006 20:27

i disagree, attila. i have pcos and i found charting really useful. i guess it depends how frequently you have periods. my cycles were regular-ish, but loooong.
what i found interesting is that i was ovulating much, much later than i thought and consistently so. there is a theory that if you ovulate later than day 18, the egg starts to degrade, and the three times if got pregnant i know i ov'd on day 18. also i began ovulating earlier (for me, day 18 was early) the longer i was on metformin, possibly because i lost weight while on the drug.
anyway, pussycatmomma and wantababy, the best of luck to you.

goshme · 29/07/2006 21:12

Basically yes!! First 2 dd's were clomid babies and so then was v.casual with contraception & along came my 3rd miracle dd3!! Good Luck xx

WantAbabyNOW · 30/07/2006 03:04

tanx aitch71.

All encouragement is great

quokka · 30/07/2006 08:27

I have it and I have 2 ds. First one I fell pregnant in a month and the second took about 3 months. My Gyno told me I would have problems concieving so I should get on and try - so we did. My dh thought I was making it all up because it happened so quickly! I never had regular periods so didn't bother trying work out when I was ovulating, we just enjoyed making them (the babies)!

AttilaTheMeerkat · 30/07/2006 08:27

Temp charting can be beset with problems and I would not like to actively encourage someone to chart if their cycles are irregular. Such a person is better off having a blood test done to see what their hormone levels are like.

If you have regular periods you are more likely to be ovulating that if you are someone with irregular cycles. Temp charting is more feasible in such circumstances.

A woman can ovulate earlier, later or not at all in any given cycle. Ovulation is not an exact science. A problem with temp charting as well is that a temp rise can be seen in the second half of a cycle when an egg has not been shed. Also many gynaes do not look at temp charts primarily because they are so unreliable.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 30/07/2006 08:31

PCOS is a very individualistic disorder and affects each woman with it very differently. What can be a real problem for one woman many not be the case for another with the same condition. It has one main commonility - the cystic follicles on the ovaries. Such follicles do disappear only to be replaced by further cystic follicles.

Many women with PCOS find that it is very difficult to shed any excess pounds and this can exacerbate symptoms. Some women find using a low GI (glycaemic index) or low GL (glycaemic load) eating plan (note I did not use the word diet) useful in the longer term.

vitomum · 30/07/2006 09:18

quokka - snap! Specialist doctor's exact words to me were 'you will be unlikely to conceive naturally'! A month after thinking 'well lets just see what happens' i was pregnant. I think my DH also felt slightly conned - especially as the 'practice' phase was so short . I always had very irregular periods and on the two previous occassions i had come off the pill had had no periods at all for a year. Since ds my periods have become a lot more regular - althou my PMT is hellish, so don't know what to make of that(i still have the facial hair unfortunatley too ). I feel eating low GI really helps as well. Good luck to everyone

mrsnoah · 30/07/2006 10:08

i have pcos too, have 3 kids took a few months of working out my cycles using ovulation sticks and then a couple of months trying. Good luck!

Eeek · 30/07/2006 10:25

sorry - haven't read the whole thread. I think PCOS is 1 in 6 so there must be lots of us having kids. I have polycystic ovaries but not the syndrome - 2 kids via IVF.

WantAbabyNOW · 30/07/2006 10:27

quokka... where do you live? I am presuming W.A?

I hope it turns out to be that easy. I would have thought that after almost 19 months of trying we would have had some luck by now... good things come to those who wait though!

munz · 30/07/2006 11:13

i've not had it but my mate did/has, not severly but ebough, she was off the pill and TTC for about 18 months before she fell - she went to the dr thinking ti was a stomach ulcer or something.

althou she's 22. still good luck with it.

(it helped her loosing a lot of weight to regulate her periods, prior to that she was lucky to have 1 every 6 months after coming off the pill (prior to the pill she was lucky for 1 per year) anyhow lost the weight then I think it took about 7/8 months after that.

good luck

suejonez · 30/07/2006 11:18

Do you want to know about those who have PCOS and didn't conceive? Not sure if you want to bad news as well as good?

aitch71 · 30/07/2006 11:41

jeez, attila, way to make a girl feel wanted...

i have PCOS, i charted for about a year and a half. i found it really INTERESTING and so did my GP and my gynaecologist. they clearly saw the patterns to my long cycles, as did i, and they weren't even remotely sniffy about it. in fact the gynae told me to keep doing it and bring the charts to my next appointment so that he could see if the metformin was making any difference. (as a matter of interest i used a computer programme which did any calculations for me so the effort was minimal).

the gynae was the one who told me about the day 18 thing, and having spotted that my two previous (sadly ectopic) pregnancies were created on day 18 so he was looking for my ovulation (then occuring at about day 30 or not at all) to occur earlier on metformin, which it did.

i have always tended to have other symptoms of ovulation as well, such as lubricative cervical fluid, so when i saw my temperatures rise in combination with the CF i gathered i was ovulating. i was also part of the oxford university conception study which gave out ovulation sticks like lollies so i was using them too. (for fun, i wasn't completely obsessed... well a bit obsessed ). every single time my symptoms and ov stick results coincided with my temping charts.

i am not advocating the charting above everything else - but i did not find it in the slightest bit difficult or stressful and just for the record the toni weschler book is a good read about female fertility as much as it is about charting - it's about two inches thick, and charting isn't that difficult to explain.

but ladies, as Attila rightly says PCOS is a very individualistic disorder. your symptoms might be like mine, or they might not, you might find charting to be of use or you might not. i really liked it, because i felt i was regaining some measure of control in a life that seemed to be utterly overwhelmed by trying to conceive.

However, some women find charting very stressful, and it makes them feel pressurised and anxious. It depends on the individual. i wouldn't be as quick as attila has been to dismiss it, obviously, because i found it easy, interesting and useful.

The first thing is that i would definitely ask your GPs to do blood tests, and i would also think about getting ovulation sticks (although technically they only tell you about ovulation after the fact and they are pretty expensive). you could even use a Persona machine backwards, as that's kinda what the Oxford Conception Study was about.

Let's face it, if you badly want to have a baby you'll probably get them all... but judging by most of the happy stories on here you won't even need them...
the very best of luck to you both

pupuce · 30/07/2006 12:43

Have you tried the mayan womb massage ? I know several women who have with great success !!! You can learn to do the self care and not need to have the massge done... though the massages are nice too

quokka · 30/07/2006 13:37

wantababynow yes I am from WA, are you? you either know what a quokka is or you don't! I actually live in London now, have married a pom.

Just relax about the baby making it will happen just take it easy. Like I said in my first message I never knew when I was ovulating we just had fun alot of the time . Enjoy the time because when baby comes you want have it again!

WantAbabyNOW · 31/07/2006 07:13

Quokka... im in Syd.. Visited WA though and found quokkas very cute. No quokka soccer!

Coincidently I married someone who is half Pom...

Thanx for your advice.

Its freezing here right now!

quokka · 31/07/2006 09:13

I can honestly say that I have never played quokka soccer either! We used to go to Rottnest every year for hols when I was little, it's my favourite place.

Good luck again and have fun trying

Xena · 31/07/2006 09:15

I did I got pg and found out the week before seeing the fertility nurse. Also when you get pg it is best to have a small gap as possible as the cyst go when you pregnant and take up to 2 years to return. Hence the 2 year and less gap between 2-3&4 babyxenas

edam · 31/07/2006 09:19

My sister did, after she lost a lot of weight and got herself a new boyfriend. Not sure if those facts were the ones that made a difference but she'd been trying for eight years with her previous boyfriend.