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Is our relationship strong enough?

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ganford · 28/11/2013 11:52

Hello everyone

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this so please do point me in the right direction if not.

Most people in this forum seem to be in loving relationships where both partners desperately want to have a child. I am one step back: I am desperate to have a baby, my husband is not. We are fairly comfortable financially and both have good careers. We are healthy and in our early 30s. We have a very sharing relationship and both do our bit around the house. I love the thought of bringing a little version of 'us' into the world and sharing all the excitement/challenges/joy that would entail.

But my husband isn't committing to anything. When I first brought up the subject he said he really wanted a baby but that we couldn't afford it. I then saved up £3000, which I think is plenty to get started with. When I brought up the subject again, showing how our financial situation had changed he said 'I'm not sure our relationship is strong enough'. Now, in a way I think this is very responsible of him. Yes, of course a relationship should be strong before you have a child. But I thought it was. We have moved country twice in three years with our careers. We once bought a house, moved country and both started new jobs within three months. Those things are all stressful and we got through them. It wasn't easy but we did it.

The last thing I want to do is bully/manipulate him. I can go for months without mentioning anything baby related, even though it is on my mind constantly. But we are now at the stage where most nights I silently cry myself to sleep. In the evenings I say I am going to the gym when really I get there, sit in the car, and sob my eyes out. On the rare occasion I do break down in front of him, he just stares at me and does nothing. Sometimes I try to have a calm, adult conversation about his fears/worries/concerns and politely ask how he thinks our relationship could be stronger. But he offers nothing concrete and it makes me scream inside. Now I think the baby issue is undermining the relationship and we are in a catch 22.

How can I get him to open up? Am I being a mug? Is he just coming up with excuses? How do you know if your relationship is strong enough? Is it unreasonable of me to ask for some sort of timeframe for when he might be ready? Does the phrase 'our relationship isn't strong enough' actually mean he doesn't know if he loves me enough? How can he watch me be so deeply unhappy and do nothing?

Sorry this post is so long, I desperately needed to get it off my chest.

Thank you

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Sausagesaurus · 28/11/2013 12:50

Hi ganford I didn't want to read and run. I'm so sorry to hear about your situation, I can't imagine how you must be feeling.

You might get more advice if you post this in the 'Relationships' section of the forum, under 'Body and Soul'.

Sorry I don't have any advice for you Thanks

ganford · 28/11/2013 13:01

Excellent suggestion, thank you! Much appreciated.

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allchatnicknamesgone · 28/11/2013 14:39

You are married?! How can he say your relationship isn't strong enough. Seems a bit cruel to me. Not many men are in touch with their emotions, but I don't think men like seeing their wife upset? Daft question, but when you were getting married and talking about growing old, did you never discuss how many kids you wanted if any?! I obviously don't know the guy, but he's either got a big issue that needs to be talked through or he doesn't want kids full stop.
Good luck in the other forum. Really feel for you and hope it works out.

flymo79 · 28/11/2013 14:45

Hi ganford
Just wanted to say it's very brave of you to seek support and advice. It must be disorientating and upsetting having this issue in your marriage, and I can well understand how you just didn't have that conversation. Not all couples do I suppose. For my OH, it was definitely when he saw ALL our friends, siblings etc having kids, and it hit home that a) my bio clock was ticking (loudly) and b) we couldn't just sit back and wait for it to happen. Maybe it is the less emotional things for men which help them to see there's a time to start trying, things like not leaving it until you're too old to enjoy it. I would try down this route in a pragmatic way, then ask him seriously if the "our relationship isn't strong enough" bit means something else that he's not saying.
I'm really sorry to hear about what you've been going through and hope you find some resolution xxx

woodwaj · 28/11/2013 17:00

Hi ganford

Really sorry about your situation you are clearly upset and it's sad to read.

I think for a lot of couples being strong enough isn't even a thought. Think it sounds like hes got cold feet and all you need to know is if hes ever going to be ready.

KittyVonCatsington · 28/11/2013 19:25

Oh dear, ganford, you poor thing. I don't know what to say, so thought I might tell you how I got there, so to speak. Way, way back, when i was 26 and DH and I were dating, I asked him if he ever wanted to get married to me. His response was, " I don't want to say yes as I feel that if I say yes, we are effectively engaged now, so I'll have to say no"
not what I wanted to hear but I waited. Three years later, he popped the question in a really romantic way. After we got married, we had the baby chat (this was last year). He said he didn't think he could ever say he was completely ready so to leave the ball in my court and when I was ready, he would 'go along with it'. Not because he was unfeeling, but that he honestly did not have the baby urges we possibly do and it would be unfair to wait for him to get them. Now I'm ready, he is true to his word. However, he isn't as 'into it' as I am.
Sorry for the long post, but I'm trying to say some men just can't plan that way and they can often not be good at expressing themselves. I do think he was harsh to say the relationship isn't strong enough, but I can't help feeling he is just being poor at vocalising his thoughts and is bottling it up. Could he be struggling with you being so upset and not dealing with it himself?

ruth1104 · 28/11/2013 22:40

I'm sorry ganford that sounds like a really upsetting situation! Does he want to have children in general? I waited for a long time for my dh to say he was really for a family and then one day it appeared out of the blue, but that just says a lot about him, I wouldn't want to generalise. (and I knew he would be like that) I think it's a good point kitty that lots of men just don't have the baby urge, but that's not the same thing as not wanting a family. Maybe it's worth talking to him about relationship counselling or anything else that he thinks would make your relationship stronger? Where does he want to be?
We're in the middle of a move just now, it is definitely a test of your marriage! But nobody can say if your relationship is strong apart from the two of you. Good luck! xx

MundayCakes85 · 28/11/2013 23:05

I didn't want to read and run- I feel really sad for you both. It must be a horrible situation for you.
Wanted to wish you the best of luck, that you get some answers.
There is always someone on MN to chat to when you need it x

jass43 · 30/11/2013 21:45

Well, in such situation i just went ahead and had a baby. Some men never make up their minds. Mine did, a few weeks before our baby was born. We now have 4. I was ready that he leaves when i get pregnant. Said so. Did not insist or anything. It helped that we were not married, he was free to walk and i made clear he can. but if you want a child more than anything then I would take the risk. your hubby may surprise himself snd you. If not, you are better off without him and at least one child.

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