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I swore I wasn't going to do this but ..

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wannaBe1974 · 13/07/2006 14:14

have been ttc for 14 months. Generally had regular cycles until three months ago when I had a very light bleed (which I thought was implantation). turned out not to be pg and had normal af 5 weeks later and again normal af exactly 28 after that. By then I had decided that we were done with the ttc thing as the anticipation and then disappointment every month was getting to me. dh had sperm test this morning and am going back to gp next week to hopefully find out what's wrong so we can put it behind us and move on.

but

this month I'm fairly sure I ovulated on cd13. I don't do OPK's or temp charting, but I gaged the ovulation on my cm, and also I had cramps on one side, whenever I have these simptoms my af always happens exactly 14 days after. but on monday (cd23) I experienced some spotting. nothing serious, just a little, not even requiring protection. again had some of this on tuesday and yesterday had lots of cm. I'd told myself (and others on the conception board) that I had no intentions of testing, as far as I was concerned the spotting would just be a light period, but this morning all spotting has stopped, but I have some minor abdominal cramps, and felt sick at breakfast time (after I'd drank orange juice) and, strangest of all, my dog will not leave me a alone.

I know that the sensible thing to do is to wait another week and do a test if no proper af arrives, I know the even more sensible thing to do is forget about it and wait for af to arrive in 4 weeks or so, but was just wondering if anyone had any views on this? esp the dog - they say animals can sense things - I know my retired dog knew when a work colleague of mine was in labour - she wouldn't leave her alone and the girl had a baby two hours later (waters broke in a team meeting).

any thoughts? I do know this has been done to death, and I do know that I've been trying to be the voice of reason on other similar threads and now I'm the one in the situation ...

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MrsJohnCusack · 13/07/2006 14:18

hmm
I do think there is some truth in the animal thing. My cats won't leave me alone when I'm pregnant, and one was all over my sister (it turned out it was an ectopic pregnancy) but it was very unusual for that cat to be all over her. Also my NCT teacher had a cat who was all over us pregnant ladies but apparently had no truck with 'normal' visitors.

only you know whether it's worth testing though.

MrsMcJnr · 13/07/2006 14:26

Hi Wannabe1974, I feel for you, I am so new to all this that I do not really know how soul destroying the whole thing must be but if it was me and I wanted to test then it would drive me mad until I did. As long as doing so won't make you feel to bad if it is not the result you want, then what do you have to lose apart from the cost of the test?

I am trying not to get my hopes up (only been off the pill 4 weeks tomorrow) but I had heard that about animals and one of my cats wants to sleep on my tummy all the time and another wants to sleep beside me, all 3 usually follow me around (chief feeder) but not like this.

Best of luck to you and hope to hear good news from you soon!

MerlinsBeard · 13/07/2006 14:32

Wannabe, i would try to wait buit would prob only last a few days!

I have a house rabbit and he has known b4 us each time we were pregnant. with ds1 he started leaping at me on the sofa and nibbling my elbows, with ds2 he ran round me everytime i stood up to the point of tripping me up! and this time, when i was 1st pg, he would run round me and then stop in front of me. When we strated to lose it, he was really different again and would "trot" along by my side

They can sense things but if u r overly hormonal it could just be that

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wannaBe1974 · 13/07/2006 14:34

both my dogs have been very attentive - eldest one was looking for attention all night last night and younger one has been following me all day sniffing at me - ve unlike him. bonnie (eldest dog) is generally a very affectionate dog so it's not unlike her to want lots of attention but the other one generally just wants to play.

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Piffle · 13/07/2006 14:37

how would you feel if it was bfn wannabe?
If you know you'd be really gutted then leave it, if you would rather know one way or the other then do it.
I got my bfp 8dpo but I did use a very very early test off internet, although CB did show it up as well but not as emphatic
I am praying for you honestly I am....

DebbsyandBibby · 13/07/2006 14:39

Waanabe my male dog whined all night for a week but when he was close to me he was ok,he settled after 2 weeks and the vet said as he is blind he can smell a change in me and that has unsettled him.

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wannaBe1974 · 13/07/2006 14:43

tbh if it was bfn I wouldn't be surprised as I've been there so many times before. will def try to hold out - did toy with the idea of taking a sample into the chemist tomorrow but if I hold out for a week or so I'm more likely to get an accurate result? hmmm now all I gotta do is have the willpower ...

am away for a week from saturday so maybe I can channel my thoughts into having a nice time at the seaside and test when back if no proper af.

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MerlinsBeard · 13/07/2006 14:44

That sounds like a good idea wannabe.

DebbsyandBibby · 13/07/2006 14:49

waqnnabe the chemist tests arent that sensitive you know.

Nemo1977 · 13/07/2006 14:54

chemist tests are same strength as normal tests better getting some of the hpt from ebay that measure from 10 units of hcg.
Agree about the animals thing..whenever I have been pg my dog lies by me a lot when she is usually more by my husband.

Piffle · 13/07/2006 14:55

I can vouch for 3 sellers all gave me bfp's yesterday paranoid dont you know

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wannaBe1974 · 13/07/2006 15:06

just spoke to dh and he basically laughed at the whole idea. I said that it wasn't beyond the relms of possibility that I could be pg and he just stayed very silent and then said "there's always september" (going on holiday in sept). He won't even entertain the idea at the moment - think he doesn't take it seriously any more given that I've had later periods etc before

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Nemo1977 · 13/07/2006 15:22

congrates piffle am also serial tester for first few weeks. I usually buy from tk dignostics, cheap quick and gave bfp for dd 8 days after ov

coggy · 13/07/2006 16:37

wannaBe...i've done the feeling sick for the past ten days (unusual for me) and sore boobs (never normally get them) and couldn't resist doing a test yesterday...almost convinced myself I was pg. and then gutted when it was a bfn.

I guess it depends on your reaction to the test if it is neg. I know all the heart-ache you went through on your really long cycle.

Ask yourself (wish I had!!) if you get a bfn will you then make excuses like 'not early enough in the morning', ' not enough wee', 'too early' etc.
When I get a bfn..I am gutted but then 5 mins later I think all of the above!!!

Wait as long as you can.
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Booboobedoo · 13/07/2006 17:36

Wannabe - so sorry you've found yourself in this position again.

I've seen in the last few months what a strong person you are: tap into that willpower and leave it until after your holiday.

Unless you think you'll be even more disappointed if it's still a BFN after that....

I shouldn't try and give advice - sorry. Any other symptoms appeared? As you're only on CD26, maybe leave it a couple of days (says the CD27 tester).

Hey coggy: still crossing fingers for you too.

coggy · 13/07/2006 19:10

Thank you BooBoo.....CD28 today......but......

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wannaBe1974 · 13/07/2006 19:41

well ... mother nature saved me some money - my af arrived about an hour ago - proper af - will I ever learn, lol.

onwards and upwards I guess - maybe one day I'll find out the reason why I'm unable to conceive and finally be able to put it all behind me.

Coggy am still keeping everything crossed for you - yes you're right, I think it's all too easy to adopt the thinking of .. did I test too early/was test faulty/was sample strong enough/should I test again ... what are we like.

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DollyP · 13/07/2006 19:44

SO sorry to hear this Wannabe. I am in the same dilemma and can't bear to test in case it's a BFN. I hope you get the news you are hoping for soon.

(((hugs)))

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wannaBe1974 · 13/07/2006 20:04

I do think that having a baby is one of those things that is so hard to let go of. I think we can try, I know i certainly am able to let go of the "doing it at certain times of the month" but whenever af is looming it's hard not to think "maybe". I think what I need is for someone to tell me I can't have another baby, maybe if someone can tell me why I can let go, in my heart of hearts I don't think I'll ever have another one, I mean it's been 14 months now, there hasn't even been the slightest hint that I've been able to fall pregnant, but yet it's still hard to let it go. I know I have to let it go really, have to move on and do something with my life, I do feel sad for my ds though as I didn't want him to be an only child.

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Piffle · 13/07/2006 20:13

wannabe, it was 3 yrs for me, one year until the ectopic, then they told me I was fine and conception was only reduced by 15% after a tubal loss.
And month after bloody month
nothing
I have peed on at least several hundred HPT's in the last 2 yrs. I tilt them this way and that, deny the bfn, and was always wrecked when af came.
It was all my own doing - I was not bale to change the mentality, maybe for the first year I was casual and not keeping dates of af etc... then after ectopic I just left it to chance as cycles were erratic, in the last year I have been obsessed and I'm not sure how much longer I could have gone on.
Have you been referred yet? I got dp to do a home sperm test- he registered perfect. Gynae still prescibed me Clomid and was due to start next cycle. I am shocked to be pregnant and I still think its going to be taken away. TTC when the clock really has you is excruciating.

Sexonlegs · 13/07/2006 20:31

Wannabe, I am sorry to hear about your af arriving. Bummer.
Coggy, fingers crossed for you.x

Natty1806 · 13/07/2006 21:01

Sorry to hear that wannabe, maybe have all the tests done and see what happens, have you had blood tests etc? I know your DH has given his sample.

coggy · 13/07/2006 21:09

wannaBe...shame that your AF has come.
Just the mere excitement of doing a test brings it on sometimes eh?! How annoying....

14 months feels like a massively looooooong time when ttc (dh and I have been ttc 13 months this week so I know) but there are lots of people who have fallen pg after trying for longer than that and still have no reason for their sub-fertility.
I fell pg after nearly 5 years of trying the first time so it is worth keeping that little bit of hope..even for us long-timers.

Having said that, I also think it's a darn good idea to feel miserable and sad for a short while each month when AF arrives too.
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Natty1806 · 13/07/2006 21:26

Hi coggy we have been trying a year this week.

Since chatting on here since march i am amazed at how many people have trouble getting and staying pregnant, one day it's all happy smiles and the next it sad faces. (hope that didn't offend anyone)

Anyway have now made a packed with myself that i am not going to test until i am a week late so that i would be 5 weeks rather than testing early and being less than 4 weeks cause i can imagine how hard it is to get through the first 12 weeks.

So i seemed to have rambled and hijacked the thread.

Sorry....just typing my thoughts. x

MrsJohnCusack · 13/07/2006 22:49

oh wannabe, what a shame I have read lots of your posts as I do lurk on a lot of mumsnet. Sorry if I got any hopes up with my post about animals.

Piffle great news! (again, have read lots of your posts too)

I sound like a total stalker now....