Brooking No Argument that we'll get BFPs from our Easter Eggs

[BeedlesPineNeedles]

Well done keep I hope its the first of many :o :o

Right who's next with the BFP???

Geek I am so sorry the scan result wasn't as good as you wanted, I have been thinking of you

next week solars not sure I approve of you jumping the queue ahead of me and geek that's great. You can follow in the footsteps of sweetie and keep
Soon we'll have loads of AC brooking babies on the way :o

boo k looks gorgeous, I showed MrG her photo and he cooed

cup two shifts - amazing!!! Bet you can't wait til they're over. It's such a good feeling getting everything together for handover. Are you sad to leave now, or is it just a relief?

beedle brooking you are one of those lucky people who gets through DR with little or no side effects whatsoever. They will be able to tell that it's worked from scans and bloods, so don't worry about not knowing.

solars they know what they are doing - that they have even identified you have high NK is brilliant, and they will treat you from the off so it won't be an issue for you. Please don't go mentalling over google. It really is your worst enemy for anything medical.

At the scan yesterday they measured my fibroid as being 44mm x 40mm. At the previous scan it was 65mm x 55mm. It seems that the vitamin D is working :) Sadly not enough to make my right ovary accessible. I got really upset over that at the scan so they said there was still a small chance that they might be able to pummell the hell out of manipulate my abdomen to make the right ovary shift whilst I'm under GA for the EC.

They are going ahead with SP on the next cycle because when I had my AMH taken 9 months ago it came back very high (49.1) so they are hoping I will be a good responder and they will get everything they need from my crappy ovary.

They didn't say how long the waiting list for the myomectomy (fibroid removal op) was. I am hoping I might be able to go via choose & book again rather than wait for the NHS. It was suggested before my last op that the NHS waiting list would be somewhere around 9-12 months whereas C&B could do it within 3.

They saw some small follicles on one of my ovaries, but couldn't give me any indication of when I might ovulate. CBFM is still showing 'low' the bastard so I'm guessing this cycle will be a min of 35 days. Sorry beedle not sure we'll get to be cycle buddies after all

As you know, I've been mentalling like crazy about NK cells and immunes. I looked into it today and whilst I could afford to have the test done at a near-ish clinic, there is no way I could afford the treatment and the NHS wouldn't cover it. I think perhaps I'd rather not know in this case. If the results came back that I had high NK, I don't think I would be in the right frame of mind to go through ICSI as I'd just be expecting it to fail from the word go. A bit like I am anyway I suppose.

Sorry for the mememe post, and the negativity. Yesterday knocked me for 6 a bit. I can't help but feel why somebody out there is so determined that I have to prove how desperately I want a baby that I have to wait 12 years and have one relatively minor and potentially one major op, still with no guarantees that I can successfully get pg.

Oh geek sorry you were so upset yesterday, but it sounds like you might get just as many eggs from 1 ovary as I will get from 2. Hopefully you won't need to worry about waiting lists for fibroid removal as there will be a baby in your tummy too. Don't give up hope before you've even started (says she who is worried about not DR properly, getting no eggs, MrB being unable to perform, eggs not fertilising etc etc)

But tell me more about vit D reducing fibroid size.

beedle it was this link that realyl made me decide to try vitamin D to reduce the size of my fibroids. I was first measured in, I think, October last year and the maximum dimension of the troublemaker was 58mm. I had another scan about six weeks later and it was 65mm. After reading the article above, and googling 'fibroid vitamin D' I started taking 4x25 micrograms of vitamin D per day, and 1gram (1000mg) of vitamin C to help increase iron absorption which can be affected by higher doses of vitamin D. I've been taking them since Christmas. The largest dimension of the troublemaker is now 44mm. This is purely self-medicated though.

sweetie the leaflet with the metformin is very clear - no alcohol at all with it. Googling, it seems that alcohol can affect you quite badly if you take it on the same day as metformin, and also can cause quite bad gastric upset the following day(s). There is also a greatly increased risk of the potentially fatal lactic acidosis if you take alcohol with metformin. Apparently it's perfectly ok to drink as long as you don't take any metformin that day though .

Oh Geek please don't beat yourself about this all, there is no rhyme and reason to any of this, it's simply not true that you have to prove anything, goodness if that were true all of us would be pg by now as we've certainly all done our 'time'. I'm brooking on your behalf that this next cycle will get you your baby and there will be no worrying about the fibroid or anything else! Also that is very interesting about vitamin D and fibroids, did you also up your intake of magnesium to help maximise absorption? I remember a friend of mine telling me who was vitamin D deficient.

Beedle the way may LP has been recently it may still be another 10 days until AF shows up. I ovulated sometime at the weekend.

Cups they do think the elevated NK cells may be an issue contributing to infertility. I only had a brief chat about it with whoever rang me yesterday from the clinic so I've ordered a book by Alan Beers who did lots of research into reproductive immunology & genetics to understand it better. A lot of this hasn't been researched fully though and the link between high NK cells and anything going on in the womb is debatable. Hence the reason some clinics look at it and others don't.

Marking my place so I can stalk you keep up to date with you all! Sending lots of love and positive vibes to all!

geek If its any consolation, I had a cry in the airport yesterday due too too much consolation wine post af the day I go on holiday!

Brooking for you all, as ever xxxxx

Olives you don't need to mark your place, you're one of the few success stories around here! So whats new with bubba / you?

Geek that is not a me me me post at all. It's a lot to take in. I'm brooking that with such a good amh you'll get lots of eggs. It must be so frustrating though that the op hasn't really helped. I hope you don't even need the next one as you will be heavily pregnant. I understand your point about having testing for immunes & NK cells. I would like to get tested but probably couldn't afford the treatment so it's kind of pointless. Hope your feeling ok, well done on reducing the size with vitamin D.

Solars I hope the clinic and book can answer some of your questions. I do really wonder about these things as we are still pretty much unexplained (excluding one poor SA). I think if we have a few failed cycles we may look into it.

Beedle I'm sure the DR will work, some people don't seem to have many side effects during DR and I'm sure your one of the lucky ones. I get the fear about doing it wrong though. I'm going to be injecting for mine & I've got it into my head that ill do the injections wrong completely ridiculous seeing as giving injections is a major part of my job

Kitty hope you have a fabulous holiday

Olives hello, how is your little boy? Hope his reflux is improving x

Has anyone read the thread about reading a test after 10 mins? The poster has got a BFP while DR, she's been ttc for 5 years. What a lovely thing to happen.

I just wanted to rush in to give Geek a hug. Whilst you fibroid is still there, by the time EC comes around, it may have shrunk even more! This month is going to be a busy one for us all isn't it?! I'm with you on the not knowing about immune issues. I couldn't afford treatment either, but also, not everyone that has high NK cells has trouble TTC.

I'm sending lots of love to all of you and am about to pour you all a cocktail seen as the sun is well and truely here! I'm trying to keep a low profile at the mo, so much is going on. But I am always lurking lovely brookers x

thank you ladies, I've been reading throughout the day and your posts have really kept me going. Had a mini meltdown in the ladies' loos after posting this morning, so figured it was best to stick to just reading for the rest of the day.

geek sorry o hear you've been struggling with everything, i know how you're feeling, just try and keep your chin up, don't let the bastards grind you down as my dad used to say x

Quick scan update I have the slowest ovaries in the world fact.
The follies were 7mm on Weds [CD11], today [CD 14] the L one is 9.

Keep jabbin and back on Monday for another scan.

Hope you're all enjoying the long weekend x

scarlett left is good, right? They seem to be growing at a steady pace, which is also good. Brooking that you don't have too many days of jabs ahead of you. What size do they need to get to?

kitty yay for holidays! I'm sure airports are used to people crying, so you wouldn't have looked too out of place. Hope you are feeling better now though, and enjoying your time away.

solars I'm not taking any extra magnesium, I thought all of that was included in my multivit but I've just checked and it's not. I'm off to H&B this afternoon for MrG's tablets so I may just check out how much the magnesium is.

cup I saw that post, and worried for her when she said she'd read it after the time. So chuffed when she reported back with the second test. I am sure you'll be fine with the injections, it probably seems a bit alien now because giving injections to someone else is nothing like doing it to yourself. MrG said he couldn't wait to do mine, and looked properly miserable when I said I wanted to do them myself

Lurk all you want, we know you're there and we're not letting you get away, lovely. Brooking for you, as always. And you're right, immunes are such a new area, the effect simply isn't known.

Hope you are all enjoying this lovely long weekend!

geek it is good the L one is still there [the R one is doing much better at 11mm] I think I have to admit the L just isn't up to standard. By Day 14 they should be 18-20mm and ready to pop, the L isn't even halfway there, growing at a rate of 2mm in 4 days, it should be the other way round! At this rate I'll be triggering on day 32, I usually have a 27-28 day cycle this will be double

Feels like my body is just dragging up the dregs because of the meds, I can't see how the eggs will be any good if I have to stim for 5 weeks

Hope you're all out having fun this weekend, I love May for it's 2 bank holidays

Thanks for asking ladies, things are ok here. T is still suffering with his reflux but is gaining weight well and giving lovely smiles which is plenty of reward for the night wakings! Im trialling dairy free at the mo to see if that helps his symptoms and its sooo tough! DH just had philly on his crumpets and I wanted to snatch them off him! I even dreamt about mature cheddar last night!!

Im so pleased that things are moving quickly now for all the assisted brookers - I really hope that keep and sweetie's fabulous results are just a taster of what's to come!

Poor little one suffering from reflux Olives Am I right in thinking you also had high nk cells? Did you take any other vitamins or supplements to help? I'm just wondering what else I can do to help the situation.

Oh Scarlett what are the clinic saying about your response?

Hope you're having a great holiday Kitty

Geek any sign of ov yet?

Maybe, Cups, Beedle hope you're all doing ok!

geek I'm sorry the fibroid is in the way, but brooking you will get enough eggs from that one side anyway. Very exciting you start soon. And all you others.

beedle I think symptoms vary lots, hope you continue to have none. When's your next appt?

Good to see maybe, lurk away, sweetheart.

Well, I've been to the beach for the weekend. Got sunburnt, so am annoyed with self.

scarlett I'm sorry your body's not responding as it should, but really brooking hard for you that there is a quality egg on your left just needing the right amount of cooking time. As solars says, what are the clinic saying about it?

olives good luck with the dairy free, I hope it does the trick.

solars Not a sniff that ov is in the air. I think I'm going to have to start hunting down the back of the sofa for it. CBFM is still saying low. It is CD17 today. Even on my long cycles I've had several false highs by now. Temps are only just down to where they ought to be for pre-ov, and this morning I started spotting Can't find anything on Dr Google about metformin causing this, and that's the only thing I've done differently this cycle.

keep soooo jealous of your beach trip. I grew up in a seaside town but now live as far away from any beach as it's possible to be in the UK [wail] Sorry to hear about your sunburn though. Lots of calamine lotion (can you get that out there?) and pampering

I'm trying to munch my way through my breakfast ryvita. I can't do breakfast at the best of times but have to eat for the metformin. No other news here, we've had the laziest bank holiday possible. I haven't even put the washing on Think I'm going to have to play a bit of catch-up today.

Oooh bit of advice from the knitters please - I'm knitting a cardi and the pattern calls for 6 balls of 164g yarn. I read '6 balls' and ploughed on ahead, not realising my balls were 111g. I've almost finished the back and it's taken two balls so far. Will just have started a third for the last couple of inches of the back. What do you reckon - can I do it? I have 8 balls of the 111g yarn.

keep no real side-effects yet, I've been feeling a bit warm but I don't really think you can call them hot flushes, and I often feel a bit warm the week before AF is due anyway. Next appointment is 2 weeks today, where they will scan me to check nothing has changed with my fibroid and teach me how to do the injections - which I think will begin a day or 2 later.

scarlett sorry your body is still being stubborn. Though I was wondering, if you usually ovulate yourself couldn't you have done the IUI with the stimming, just with a few scans to check when you were likely to ov. Ignore me if that is a really stupid suggestion!

No bank holiday here but it is lovely and sunny, and it was the same yesterday so we were out with friends (at a huge outdoor play arae filled with children, which wouldn't have been my first choice but as they have small children it was OK!)

Keep how the f* did you get sunburnt? It's been raining pretty much since we got here :-(

No rain here, or just the odd shower kitty...

Ah man, keep please send some bankok weather to samui!!! There's only so much game of thrones we can watch...