This thread is the one the Rat Smacketeers all become PSEPP and we are Brooking No Argument this is the case. Fact.

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Ladies this thread is the one, I can feel it in my water [although maybe that's the drugs ], here you go

Firstly, excellent news sweetie I will add to the stick embryo stick chant

So MrB's sperm isn't so good and we're probably heading to IVF. We didn't get a printout of the numbers to take away with us but the doc said I was unlikely to get preggo naturally (which is not that surprising given we've been trying for 18 months without a sniff ofa BFP) Then he examined DP and dildocammed me, he found a fibroid but said they'd be able to see more when they do the HSG. They like to do blood tests days 3 to 5 so I have to go back on Friday, then on days 16, 18 & 20 for the "day 21" test. And DP is booked in for a repeat JIAJ

DP is feeling a bit sad and feels that its his fault but hopefully he'll feel better soon. I'm a bit scared about IVF but we didn't really talk much about that so it doesn't seem real yet.

Oh Beedle im so sorry it wasn't great news. Poor mrbeedle. It is really hard, as you don't know what to do o make them feel better about it. Don't be scared about the IVF. You are going to have plenty of us here to hold your hand through it all. They are very thorough with their day 21 bloods!

Well done Sweetie brooking like a mad woman for the next 2 week's for you.

Hoping your appointment was good beedle

Oh beedle I'm sorry. It's so hard on our DPs and DHs. It sounds like they are being very thorough with you, too. I really hope that MrBeedle's repeat JIAJ gives better results (one result on its own means very little, so much can affect the quality on a short-term basis). It sounds like IVF is still a fair way off for you, so please try not to worry too much about it for now. Even if that is the route by which you get your baby, we will all be here to support you and you will have four, if not five experienced IVFers to carry you through x

Sorry Beedle just noticed a massive x post, I had mn open for so long I forgot to update it I am sorry that you didn't let the answers you we've hoping for, I hope Mr b realizes that this is a team game and no blame can be given anywhere. Brooking for you both.

Oh Beedle I'm so sorry to hear that! One step at a time, lovely and you'll get there. I can understand the shock of hearing the words IVF, I was the same when they first mentioned it to us, it just takes a little time to get used to the idea and you'll be guided through it if it is the route you go down so there's no need to be afraid. Concentrate on DP for now, poor guy x

Beedle as the others say, just try to take things a step of a time. Get the bloods done and see what they say next. It is very hard when the subject of IVF is mentioned, but look as it as a positive. It is just a way to be sure of those eggs and spermies meeting. That is how I try to think of it in my head.

Hope MrB is ok, Brooking for you both xx

Oh beeble im so sorry!! I can't really add anything that hasn't already been said but brooking super hard for you!!

sweetie so glad for you!! Now you have to try an stay as relaxed as possible!! so excited for you

How is everyone else?

Ooooooooh Sweeie!!! Stickyoubuggerstickyoubuggerstickyoubugger. What do we want? STICKY EMBRYONIC BUGGERS! When do we want them? NOW!

Aaah Beedle sorry for the news. Make sure you and DH need some lovely you time eating meatballs and lingonberry sauce - it must feel like a real shock. Don't forget thought that they said the same thing to Smegs...

Isn't it chilly today?? Nearly wood burner season - waa hoo!

Imps mrsparks was just complaining about how cold he was, he wants to put the fire on (we dont have central heating we're too cheap to have it installed) but Im sitting here in my leggings and tshirt thinking how warm I am..... I will not interpret this as a symptom!!!

We have had our fire on this afternoon evening too.

must just be me then ... Im normally the first person to feel the cold Ive been known to cry when I get cold

sweetie congratulations! That is so brilliant that it went well and will be 8 or 16 or 32 cells by now. How lovely. I am brooking like crazy for you over the next 13 days. I think you have time off work, so hope you have things planned to keep you relaxed but busy, to stop the mentalling. you are our IVF brooking trailblazer!

beedle am sorry to hear about the sperm news. Do you know what the numbers were like? It's a bit much to say you won't get pg naturally when they've barely done any tests to you, i think! Am glad you had the day off to spend with dh though. In terms of 'fault', i think that people fall pregnant naturally all the time with one thing crap. It's more likely that both people are slightly sub-fertile and putting that together is what does it. That's how i like to think of it anyway. Either way, you're in it together, and you'll get there, especially with the brookers behind you. When's your next appointment? I hope they don't take so long with the SA results this time! We are on similar timescales, lovely, and we'll be pregnant together as well, you mark my words.

Also just to say that I am looking forward to IVF in a way. Yes, it's scary, but so is the thought of endless months of AF. I think that as it sinks in it will feel different.

sparks when is af not due? You know it's true that pregnancy makes people hot. I am always cold in the UK (not here!!) so that was something else i was looking forward to. Now am thinking if i get pregnant here I might die of heat, so will have to just lie in the flat with a/c on for 9 months. Here's hoping!

geeky are you just waiting for cd1 now? When's that likely to be, any idea?

cd11 and still a low on cbfm. last month peak was cd13. dammit, when i want an early ovulation is when i push it back. argh. Please brook for me to ovulate soon, ladies, else next month dh will be away for ov! (although of course i'll have my bfp by then. but brook just in case, please...)

if anyone wants a trip here more than welcome to a room! would love to meet a brooker or two. (though how would i explain you to dh...)

Thanks for all your good wishes, I think I was just a bit shocked that the dr said we probably wouldn't manage it ourselves in the first 10 minutes of our first appointment! We did kind of push him into giving us the SA results, I don't think he was planning on starting the appointment with that info!

DP seems OK today, but he's not really a talk-about-his-feelings person, but seeing as he had convinced himself that there wouldn't be any to be found in the sample, the fact that it was just low was almost a good thing! Anyway we're off on holiday soon so we'll have time to relax before they do any more tests on us (except my blood test tomorrow), luckily they start doing blood tests at 7:15 in the morning so I shouldn't need to make excuses for missing work.

sweetie hope you've got some nice relaxing activities lined up for the next 2 weeks

I was going to comment that you're all wimps having the heating on already, then I remembered that ours is related to the outside temperature, so some of the radiators have probably been on this week!

yes beedle - where there's a sperm there's a way! meant to say poor you having a dildo-cam whilst on af...

it wasn't too bad, but I did have to suppress a giggle at the absurdity of a bloke sticking something like that inside me and moving it around for about 5 mins whilst DP was the otherside of a curtain. I'm not sure that giggling is the correct response to such an examination! :o

Quick message, I'm off to docs to get proper scan results back this morning and wildly over slept having woken up screaming this morming!! I was dreaming that I was being arrested but I'd just found out I was pregnant and they were being so rough with me! I had to tell hubby while I was in handcuffs!! Weird!!

AF not due in a couple of day, am 12DPO today with my LP anything from 11 to 14 days, few cramps but nothing major, no spotting but no other real symptoms, except maybe extreme fatigue in the afternoons rather a boring 2ww to be honest!!

"where there's a sperm there's a way"

There must be thousands of couples with reduced fertility who conceive naturally never knowing that their fertility is reduced, IFSWIM. Just because you actually know now that there are low sperm it doesn't make it any less likely to happen (again, IYSWIM - I am knackered so potentially making no sense to anyone but myself). Our brooking shall ensure that you get there!

Maybe - thoughts on GBBO? That key lime and ginger pie looked amazing.

key lime and ginger pie? mmmmmm tell me more imps and maybe

Oh Imps how amazing did that look?! I think it's in my book. May well have rustle it up, it's mrmaybes favourite.

Beedle glad you are feeling a little better this morning. I agree with others though, if there was sperm, then you can def get diffed.

Keep I'm on the next plane out.

Sparks bay dreams? Preggo fact.

good luck sparks
you never know, no symptoms is a symptom, isn't it?? No spotting is good!

sparks good luck with your scan results, what a weird dream! Diffed-induced, you think??

sweetie how are you feeling today? I wonder how many cells it is up to now - I am so so so excited for you!

Just a quickie from me while I have my desk to myself for a minute. Got my trial transfer this afternoon (2pm) and have to go with a full bladder so I'm drinking water like it's going out of fashion and will have to cross my legs for the 1.5 hour car ride :( Bit nervous now, but nothing like what I'll be for the real thing! Hopefully the transfer will go smoothly and my fibroid will be helpful and stay out of the way.

No idea when AF will be due, if this is a short cycle then hopefully another 3-4 weeks. If I haven't detected ovulation by CD30, I need to take a drug to induce AF. The people at the Priory were pleased to hear I did track temps and take OPKs, they said it was really helpful to them. Such a far cry from Twunty Consulty who poo-pood the whole thing as being unscientific and inaccurate!

I don't know what to do about making a complaint, I'm worried it might jeopardise my post-IVF chances of getting further help from the consultant so I think I'll wait and cross that bridge as and when it happens.

Damn, time to get on with some work!

Hi all, sorry am being v slack at the mo but am checking on you all regularly, just my little drugged up fingers struggle to type on my stupid BB am also horrendously grumpy & anti-social which clearly seems to be not just confined to RL

sweetie I am and have been absolutely made up for you and have been relaying to OH so you are now kind of famous, just cos I'm not typing don't think I'm not brooking. OH says it goes to prove the quality over quantity opinion [he thinks statistics are stupid btw and you have proved his point quite spectacularly ]

solars glad you are having a better time than me on all of this! I spoke to the nurse on tuesday and she said it's rubbish that I've been hit with so many of the side effects but none of them are uncommon, I just need to stick it out til the stims begin.

beedle here at the brookers club we seem to have a pretty strong history of proving doctors wrong one way or another and conceiving against the odds so you go girl

sparks vivid weird dream = symptom, fact.

keep am still well jell of your living situation, what I wouldn't give to be somewhere other than here right now!

waves to maybe boo face geek imps cru and all the lurking preggos

AFM well I've been really worrying that AF wasn't going to show up [was due at the weekend] and this whole horrible thing was going to be a waste of time before we even got past stage 1, but some sore boobage this morning and I eventually, ahem, found some darker CM that could be classed as spotting so hopefully I will bleed before Monday [when I'm booked for baseline scan] and we will be able to progress to stage 2...

Aw scarlett so sorry the symptoms seem to be going on and on for you, hopefully the witch will come early and you can start on stage 2. I am loving my living IVF legend state in your household.

Good luck Geek with you scan and mock transfer. Hope they don't keep you waiting too long, I have never wanted to pee so bad in my life as yesterday, but it did make the transfer easy. Apparently full bladder pushes the uterus away, so it might do the same with your fibroids?

Sparks brooking super hard for you. And in my book vivid dreams and afternoon fatigue would be defo symptoms!!

Imps thanks for the grapes and cake, how are you doing with the nonTTC?

Beedle enjoy you holibobs and look after MrB, it is so difficult for OHs as they just expect it to happen without any knowledge of how or why. Hope you are both ok now the news is settling down. I also admire you having to go through fanjocam while on AF.

I have been trying to take it easy so far but keep imagining twinges. My lower tummy feels quite tight but I think that might have more to do with my bladder going back to normal after yesterday. I am trying to stay as calm as possible but have been really upset because my little dog is really poorly (at vets right now having scans and biopsy) but at least it is stopping me mentalling about IVF. We have to collect her this afternoon and discuss options with vet. Not looking good I am afraid - why does everything come at once??

Has anyone else's mn mobile home page changed? Mine isn't showing a link for threads I'm on?