This thread is the one the Rat Smacketeers all become PSEPP and we are Brooking No Argument this is the case. Fact.

[ScarlettInSpace]

Ladies this thread is the one, I can feel it in my water [although maybe that's the drugs ], here you go

[BeedleTheBard]

maybe I'll be here in my bed keeping you company, I think my back is getting better, I can certainly move around a bit easier.

keep don't forget sperm can live up to 5 days,and I'm sure that horny goat weed powered sperm must live even longer :o

face sorry about the diagnosis but now you have a plan, you'll have a sticky little bean in no time

scarlett hope you're feeling a bit better

sweetie hope there's some good news soon

Well the evil hag is here, but its good news for CD2 blood tests tomorrow, assuming I can manage to sit in a chair for our 2 hour appointment. And as I'm off sick today I won't have to use a days holiday tomorrow, I'll still be sick

[keepitgoing]

DAMMIT beedle. But i suppose if she was going to come, best she come today. The worst is if you're teased and get your hopes up. Are you nervous about tomorrow? You'll be getting lots of test results, won't you? What's healthcare like in Sweden, I have a feeling it'll be awesome and we'll watch in envy and delight for you as they figure out what's up, if anything, and fix it.

I know that theoretically sperm can live a while, but I think maybe not for us. We can't even get them to the egg when we've dtd at the right time, let alone a few days too early.

maybe i have a nasty environment for them and that's the reason. but noone can be bothered to try and find out what it is, and are happy to leave us for three years. THREE YEARS!!

Ah, is my zen from a few days earlier leaving me...

[BeedleTheBard]

Unfortunately is just the JIAJ results tomorrow, they haven't started any tests on me yet. I think they'll do a load of blood tests on us both tomorrow and hen explain the SA results and what they're going to do to me. I'mnot sure what else they'll do to make it up to two hours though. I'm not sure its very different to the UK here (in terms of tests) but if we need it we will get 3 free goes at IVF which is really good, and if we ever needed to self-fund I think you still get the drugs almost free which makes it a bit cheaper.

3years is a very long time, I guess they're just hoping that it'll happen naturally and they won't have to spend any money on you, like making us wait 3 months for the test results

[keepitgoing]

Oh gosh, you've had nothing yet? Well, hopefully they will move fast. You probably know all this but here they'd do day 2/3 tests to look at LH, FSH, oestrogen, and then day '21' progesterone to check ovulation (but you're pretty sure you ovulate, aren't you?). Then an HSG to check tubes, and an ultrasound to check ovaries and uterus. My consultant said 'you need three things - eggs, sperm, tubes', so do make sure they're checking them all. And should mrbeedle's SA not be great then do make them do a repeat before putting it all down to that. As maybe and I said the other day, not sure if it's better to find something or not. But better to find something, if it's there. If you see what I mean!

Great that you get three goes at IVF should you need it.

Yes, it's a long time. I think that most people who are unexplained would get pregnant in that timeframe, so I suppose I can understand that. But it's a hell of a long time to wait, and the chances only get worse if you're not in the x% within a year, x% within 18 months etc. We are lucky that we have the option to self-fund (here at least) in the meantime.

[Solars]

Morning, was just popping in to see if there was any news from Sweetie still brooking like crazy, Go, Emby Go!

Keep & Maybe I have indeed started my drugs, its been 11days not that i'm counting however I think I've been extremely lucky that so far I've had no side effects apart from feeling a little tired earlier in the evening than I normally do. Only awful thing for me is the wait, I don't have my next scan until 2 weeks today!! I have been keeping myself busy though which is helping!

Scarlett hope you are feeling better!

Beedle sorry about AF but her timing is good for your day 2 bloods at least and good luck with your appointment tomorrow!

Face I'm pleased that you are getting your head around things, you'll get that sticky bean before you know it!

Keep the faith! It will happen!

Geek come back and let us know how the consultation went yesterday! Sounds like you have a plan in place though!

In other news DH watered the peace lily in our bedroom with the ramekin that I use for you know what!! I do thoroughly clean it but I feel awful for the poor plant now! I was hoping he'd use the tumbler in the bathroom but instead picked up the ramekin near the back of the sink!

[SweetieDoesIt]

Just had THE call - we have an embryo, the speed date went well fertilisation has taken place!!! Thank you for all the Brooking, power of Brooking is super powerful - FACT
They will monitor our embie over the next 24 hours to see if it divides as expected but good news so far.

Solars so pleased you haven't had any of the dreadful side effects from down regging that poor Scarlett has been suffering from. When do you start the stims?

Beedle sorry that AF has got you, but the timing fits with your day 2 bloods - good luck tomorrow & hope it is good news for MrB

Keep try to keep the zen, it is difficult but you must try and the horny goat weed must help with smacking that rat!!

Maybe hope you are feeling better soon my dear

Geek if you want any info or have any questions on Short protocol just PM me, I have a booklet they gave me from my clinic that I can photocopy and send you if you like

Solars your poor peace lily got more than expected, maybe a few extra nutrients

I am off back to chillin out, I have another appointment with my fertility reflexologist this afternoon to prepare my body for embryo transfer tomorrow.
Need to make sure it as comfy as possible in readiness for the next 9 months.

[Solars]

Oh Sweetie you wouldn't believe how excited I am for you! GO, EMBIE GO!! Hopefully I can start stimms the day after my scan which will be the 26th! Have a lovely relaxing day Sweetie

[keepitgoing]

oh wow that is brilliant news sweetie!! Will be keeping up the high level of brooking for you over the next 24 hours - when might they put it back?

Congratulations!!!

[BeedleTheBard]

Fab news sweetie I'm so pleased for you :o
I'm sure someone will be along soon to do an embryo sticking dance for you, but I'm not quite up to dancing at the moment

[keepitgoing]

ps thank you for telling us so soon, the suspense was killing me, can't imagine about you. Well done again, so glad they hit it off.

[SweetieDoesIt]

Aw no, not sure what to do as reflexologist woman just rung & left a message to let me know she has a cold and would understand if I would prefer to cancel this afternoons appointment. Do the benefits of reflexology at this time out weigh the risk of getting a cold?

DH says not to go and he will smear feet in jam and let dog lick it off - he is helpful like that!!!

[NoMaybeAboutIt]

Oh Sweetie this has made my day, I'm so so pleased for you!! When does the transfer take place?

I would be inclined to steer clear of viruses. Is there something nice and relaxing you can do instead? A nice doggy walk with a hot chocolate to finish off?

[SecretSparkle]

Oooooooh sweetie what fabulously wonderfully amazing news!! Id also be inclined to avoid someone with a cold! You're so close now this will be the most 2ww ever!!!

[Princesslovelyboo]

Come on Emby, think dividing thoughts!!!!! Sweetie this is super news, so pleased for you. The power of us Brookers is powerfull indeed! What did you decide about the Reflexology?

Any news Geek I seem to think you either had an appointment already or it is impending? (apologies if I am wrong)

Cheery waves and brooking for everyone else

Leaves an assortment of paninis and salad

[Geeklette]

sweetie that is fabulous, brilliant, amazing news!!!

My appointment (yesterday) went well, we are now on the IVF train doing the short protocol. This will start from the day of my next AF. sweetie thank you for your offer of info, I will take everything I can get! No doubt as it all sinks in over time I will have questions so you may find yourself with the odd weird random pm for things I feel too foolish to ask the nurse

Yesterday's appointment was really to go through what the whole process involved, and to get up close and personal with the drugs. Oh holy crap the needles are twice as long as MrGeek's insulin needles!! MrGeek has said he will be happy to shove the needles into my bum help me inject into my fattest parts. Everybody was so lovely and sweet, and I have fallen in love with my consultant. Not the stupid twunt from the NHS hospital, but the consultant who will be performing the transfer.

I have a trial transfer booked for this Thursday afternoon, and an additional scan on the same day.

Ok, that was all written pretty calmly. That was the good part of the appointment. The bad part, the part that has me so ranty I need to remind myself to breathe nearly constantly is: my NHS cons is a complete and utter twunt. When he scanned me he told me everything was fine and perfectly normal and there was nothing to report. I asked him were there any cysts on my ovaries and he said no, none. It turns out that not only do my ovaries look classic polycystic, but one has a huge endometrioma (blood filled cyst I think) which renders it completely useless for IVF. It is also incredibly high and out of reach, so basically we are working with one good ovary. I have also now been warned that the quality of eggs that ovary produces will be of inferior quailty even in terms of natural fertilisation. However, that is quite minor compared to the fact that my NHS consultant failed to mention the 4cm x 6cm fibroid that is pressing down on my cervix. I apparently have a couple of smaller fibroids in less awkward places, but that one is of particular concern due to its size and positioning. It has also caused both my ovaries to shunt to an almost central position, again making egg retrieval a bit awkward. Luckily, the 'good' ovary is relatively accessible.

I can't stress just how lovely through all this the nurse, embryologist and consultant were, I feel I am in the best possible hands and I am starting to believe this is going to happen. MrGeek and I both got a bit emotional yesterday because it hit home that this is our chance, and after almost 12 years we might finally get our baby.

Argh, I'm filling up in the middle of the office now :(

I can't remember who asked me, but yes MrGeek does know about you lovely ladies. I have had to explain the rat smacking and brooking concepts to him several times but he now gets it I think He doesn't get any of the details of what is discussed on thread, but he knows you exist and are a fab support network and he asked me to let you know that he is brooking for you all in a blokey, anonymous type of way.

Sorry for the mememe post, I feel better for having had that rant!

[Biscuitsandtea]

Yay Sweetie I'm so pleased - that is great news. One step at a time. I'm brooking for proper dividing now.

Brooking for each and every one of you.

[Princesslovelyboo]

Let me attem Geek

[SweetieDoesIt]

MrS alson knows about you guys, although not Rat Smacking per se. He does as "what do Mumsnet think of x" He did mention Mumsnetter to SIL, so I had to explain it is a secret society, a bit like the Masons for him to understand the error of his ways!!!

boo how you getting on with MS etc? hope you are keeping well

geek I can promise you the injections dont hurt at all, and just squeeze the meds really slowly. You will be fine my dear, I have never done an injection in my life and I was fine. I wouldn't let DH do mine for me either. Cannot believe the NHS Dr gave such poor advice when you know what you do now. Really glad you have the A-Team on board now and that baby will be yours and MrGs in no time.

I spoke to reflexology lady and told her I didn't want to risk catching anything when I have got this far. She was totally understanding. So I have taken Maybe advice and taken dog for a stroll then listened to my relaxation CD. So I feel all chilled out now.

Clinic have just rung to confirm embryo transfer is booked for 11.30am tomorrow. They will check on its progress in the morning and call me with an update before I go in, either way we have to go in at 11.30.

[CruCru]

Hey Sweetie, what good news! I have been in work today but you were on my mind.

[Princesslovelyboo]

Sweetie feeling a lot better now, there are just enough symptoms to be reassuring but not so bad that I want to hug the duvet.
Doing my divide little emby dance for you and will start work on a stick you little bugger dance to start at exactly 11.30 tomorrow, this will be a group dance so we can all join in!!!

[cartoonface]

Ah,yes my internet friends to Mr face. And usually a 'ur on mumsnet again!' Don't think he quite gets it.
sweetie so glad ur egg and Mr s sperm had a wonderful date! Just brooking for the next bit now. So exciting. I've got very positive feelings for u! X
geek so happy that things are moving along for u. NHS can be blooming crap can't they so frustrating when they miss things!
It's all a bit exciting around here isn't it think we were right about this thread being a good un. I'm seeing lots of diffed announcements!

[Solars]

I think you did the right thing in staying away from your reflexologist Sweetie will be joining in the group brookers sticky dance for tomorrow! How exciting!!

Geek I am absolutely shocked by your so called NHS 'consultant' I would have already started to draft a letter of complaint about them by now! That is astounding that he did not pick up on any of those issues!! Glad to hear you have a plan of action now too and you're in much better hands now! Good luck for thursday!

[TheLittleFriend]

sweetie you have an embryo! That's such great news. Brooking for 11.30 tomorrow, when it finds it's home for the next 9 months

[GenericDietCola]

Brooking for Sweetie's emby!

[keepitgoing]

DIVIDE EMBRYO DIVIDE masses of luck for today, sweetie

geek am appalled as well, and really hope that you will consider writing a formal letter of complaint to the hospital. How long ago did the idiot do your scan. Is there no chance things changed? I assume not. Glad you feel you've got a good team with you, but sorry to hear of all the obstacles. Great that you'll have a trial transfer to sort through any problems.

And beedle good luck to you to. What time is your appointment?