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[Fay30]

Hi all,

I have read a few threads and posts that the search has brought up.
However, many of them are quite old threads.

We (me and him) were chatting the other day, about his "slow swimmers" and we got onto the subject of "giving them a helping hand"
And this brought up the topic of 10ml syringes.

The thing is though, I am not sure I can see the benefit for us, as he is "hitting the spot" time and time again.
I can feel my poor little cervix being bumped and thumped, and the moment when he ejaculates, he always makes sure he is in the "sweet spot"
It's as if his swimmers can't get through my cervix, or they do get through, but by the time they have made it through, they are so exhausted, they are of no use any more.

How can we do any more to get his swimmers further up the "path of life"?

This is just a question, before we start spending our savings on ICSI or IVF

Fay.

Iui sounds more appropriate and is cheaper - about £800 a go. It puts the sperm in the right place at the right time.

Hi yelloflowers,
Thanks for a reply.
At £800 a go, it certainly is cheaper than the ICSI or the IVF
I am sure it has to be worth a couple of tries?
I guess the sperm is put right up inside the cervix, yes?
I never thought of IUI,
Just where do they deposit the sperm?

Fay

Not completely sure. We were meant to start it but then conceived naturally the month before. Good luck!

With iui, the sperm is washed (seminal fluid irritates the uterus) spun in a centrifuge to concentrate it and is put directly into the top of the uterus so only has to get to the Fallopian tubes and meet an egg....
It is worth having a detailed analysis done, as my dh had a low count (3 million/ml) after his reversal, we were all set to try iui, but they did the analysis and checked how many were still swimming after the wash/spin and there weren't any! So iui could never have worked for us, even though he did have live sperm present. We had ivf/icsi and am now 11wks pregnant, we were told that even with normal ivf it was unlikely that any eggs would fertilise because of his low count/half arsed swimmers.

Also my dh had ok but below average sperm on first test ordered by GP. I think quantity and quality ok but motility poor. But sperm totally normal on tests done by fertility clinic six months later. They said it could have been as simple as him having a cold or small infection at time of first test.

Hi roger on the telly,
That's very interesting about the sample getting washed and dried, spun, etc.
Is the washing and spinning hurting the swimmers, that's why there were none swimming after the analysis?
So like you say, from the 3 million produced, did they all get imobilised after the analysis

So assuming there were swimmers left, how many do they put to the top of the uterus?
How far do they still need to swim?
Do they actually still need to swim up the tubes?
How do they know which tube to put the swimmers by?

So they have bypassed the long swim up to the top of the uterus by the insemination process?

Sorry all the questions

Fay.