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Advice re early miscarriage please

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PandaWatch · 18/07/2012 10:17

Hi all. So on Sunday night when AF was 4 days late, I did a superdrug HPT and got a faint positive. I held out until yesterday morning to do another test (can't believe how patient I was, I think it was more fear of a -ve!) and got a +ve on a CB digital which said 1-2 wks. Obviously DH and I were over the moon after all our time ttc but then yesterday afternoon I got the tiniest bit of pink discharge and this morning have what appears to be a full on period, with the heavy cramps I usually get on the first day.

I know it was really early days but I still feel absolutely gutted. I'm currently sat at my desk trying not to cry :( But my question is whether or not I need to do anything about it? It feels so weird that everything happened so quickly. As it was so early I don't know whether or not I should see my GP - does anyone know?

TIA for any advice! Thanks

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Purpledragon · 18/07/2012 11:28

I'm so sorry. I don't have experience of this myself. As far as I know there is no need to see a GP. I'm bumping for you, I'm sure someone can confirm.

Take care.

PandaWatch · 18/07/2012 11:35

Thanks PurpleDragon. It feels really really shit but I know I should be rational about it and I know other people have it far worse with later mcs. I thought I probably wouldn't need to go and didn't want to waste the GP's time but I've found conflicting advice on google (surprise surprise!) and am now worried about things like getting an infection.

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KickTheGuru · 18/07/2012 11:40

Panda

Saw you on the other thread but wanted to pop in say how shit it is. We always think it will be worse - my DH actually took me to the hospital because I was 2 weeks late over December and stupid AF arrived on Xmas day! Our first Xmas as a married couple!

Anyway, the hcg that gets picked up in a urine test actually leaves the blood first. So - if you think of hcg as rising quicker and first in the blood (detected by an early blood test) and 3 - 5 days later in a urine test. The reverse is true during a chemical pregnancy - it leaves the blood first and the urine second. So you get a faint positive on the urine test but if you went straight to your doctor for a blood test, you would actually potentially get a negative.

Then, sadly the egg (which more than likely had a chromosomal problem and wouldn't be able to survive to full term) gets pushed out by the body. I guess it's our bodys way of protecting the baby as much as it can.

It's rubbish but I always tried to remind myself that at least you know you can fall pregnant. Good luck next time.

KickTheGuru · 18/07/2012 11:42

Sorry and then, just to clarify, there normally isn't enough in the uterus for anything to get infected. There isn't a full placenta and the egg likely hasn't latched properly into the uterus wall. So you wouldn't need a D&C or anything (which is when they "scrape" the walls of the uterus).

This early on it's literally just your body and no medical attention required. If you are concerned later on, then head to a doctor but there is nothing they would do about it now.

Sorry mate :(

AlpinePony · 18/07/2012 11:45

I phoned A&E (out of hours, Friday bank holiday weekend of course) - they said there wasn't anything I could do, but to go in if the bleeding were very heavy or strange, smelly discharge.

I suspect I had a handful of chemicals in the end and someone recommended taking a daily aspirin after OV which I did (figured it couldn't hurt) and I have gone on to have 2 children.

The biggest piece of advice I can give is, try not to give in to the stories of "you're more fertile after a mc". I made that mistake and it felt like a massive personal blow. Early mc followed by a failure to conceive... I'd managed to convince myself it was in the bag.

Be nice to yourself, I stayed at home for 48 hours with Dr. Google and then went to the cinema which was nice - because there's no expectation to talk!

PandaWatch · 18/07/2012 11:49

Thanks so much Kick for taking the time to explain that and I'm really sorry to hear about what happened in December to you. I hope Christmas Day this year is a much happier time!

I actually think I may have you to thank for at least getting pregnant this month as we have been using CB OPKs and had been making sure that we DTD in the 48 hours after the +ve but then were a bit slack after that because of my DH being away, having late nights out at work things etc. I saw a post of yours where you said something about how the egg can drop a while after ovulation so made sure last month that we didn't miss any opportunity and, hey presto, it was the month I got pg! So at least I know it can happen. So thank you :)

Here's to the next round!

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KickTheGuru · 18/07/2012 11:50

Just because I am anal - do NOT take aspirin now.

But ditto everything else.

I think that that incredibly misguided theory may have come from the D&C that happens when someone has endo. You get the uterus scraped during D&C / later miscarriage / abortion. When you have endo, the D&C scrapes away the thickened uterus wall, thereby making the endo-sufferer more fertile for about 6 months after the procedure.

I can imagine that someone equated that to a D&C, to a miscarriage and somehow to a chemical pregnancy but I am not convinced.

PandaWatch · 18/07/2012 11:51

Thanks AP too. Coming into work today was a massive mistake. I've been on the verge of tears all morning but it has helped to have people to "talk" to about it!

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KickTheGuru · 18/07/2012 11:52

Erm...wow. Thanks Panda. You made me get all teary now so I guess I must be PMSed Grin

DTD as much as possible every second for as long as possible and put a pillow under yer bum for 20mins and apparently, it's like a magic concoction.

KickTheGuru · 18/07/2012 11:57

Alpine - that's sad as hell about people telling you you are supposed to be more fertile though. I know how rubbish it feels when you try for ages and nothing comes of it. :(

PandaWatch · 18/07/2012 12:01

I guess this means we'll have to name our first-born First Name: Kick, Middle names: The and Guru Grin

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KickTheGuru · 18/07/2012 12:21

Just "Guru" I think

I distinctly remember the "Kick me" sign from school and I'm sure "Me Kick" would get in somewhere

PandaWatch · 18/07/2012 12:35
Grin
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KickTheGuru · 18/07/2012 12:44

HA HA wouldn't that be hilarious.

I bet there are some women who would pounce on you for DARING to suggest that name!

CailinDana · 18/07/2012 12:56

I have had a similar early miscarriage. In the end it was like a heavy period, and I didn't need any medical attention. It might be worthwhile taking some iron supplements, gentle ones like spatone just to fight that washed out feeling. The good news for me was I got pregnant again in my next cycle and DS is now 19 months :)

It is shit and horrible and so disappointing. As others have said, be kind to yourself, give yourself some pampering and a chance to come to terms with it. Fingers toes and everything else (except legs) crossed that it'll happen for you soon :)

PandaWatch · 18/07/2012 13:03

Thanks Cailin and that's great to hear that you can conceive so soon after and go full term to have a healthy baby (I was worried that it might mess things up for a while) although I get what AP said about it not being definite. Good idea about the iron tablets as I am feeling a bit washed out.

Thanks to you all for being so lovely, it really has helped. My eyes aren't so leaky at the moment! :)

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KickTheGuru · 18/07/2012 13:32

The (only) light here about the early miscarriage is that if it's later, they do say you should give your body a break. With a chemical pregnancy / early mc, you can just keep going as normal and you have every chance to fall pregnant as you would have done every month before.

I am so very glad that you feel comforted. Good :)

randomimposter · 18/07/2012 15:03

I'm so sorry. MC at any stage is very sad.

FWIW I have had 3 Missed MCs around 12 weeks, 2 required surgery, and 2 early MCs around 6 weeks which were just like slightly heavier periods.

It's unlikely at your early stage you'll need to do anything other than eat chocolate, drink wine and when you feel ready, try again.

I'm now 28 weeks pregnant with DS2, DS1 is 4 and I'd nearly given up hope of having another child, but just kept trying.

Good luck.

KickTheGuru · 19/07/2012 13:40

How are you feeling today?

I am 7 days late and I've just come on - am very sore and feel like I have a bladder infection. Virtually incontinent - cannot hold a pee in for long.

Grrrrr

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