My LH surge ADVICE PLEASE

[Fay30]

Hi every one

Well I have been very carefully monitoring my expected LH surge.
Sure enough, I got the 2 purple lines at 23:30h, just before I went to bed on Friday night 24th Feb.
I was very happy.

Then I checked again on Saturday night 25th Feb, at the same time, before bed, and I still had the 2 purple lines, still very happy.

Now I read that, (don't know if it's true), that most women release their egg at lunch times, so should I expect my egg to have been release at about Saturday lunch time? ie, half way between finding my 2 purple lines?

I have just checked my LH again now, Sunday 26th Feb at 18:30, and I am back down to just 1 purple line, the control line, I guess I ovulated.

I also read that the best time to dance is 24 hours to 48 hours after ovulation, is this right, does it sound right?
Is it too soon, or too late for optimal timing?
(My husband has slow swimmers)

24 hours from when I guess my ovulation happened, is from lunch time today Sunday 26th Feb.
And the 48 hours from my ovulation happened should finish lunch time tomorrow, Monday 27th Feb.

PLEASE, can any one give me any more light on the ovulation timings?
We are just going out now to have a small meal, and get all luvvy dovvy, like you do, and then right into an early night in bed.

SO PLEASE, if any one can give me some more ideas on the best time for us to "do our stuff" than please chirp in.

FAY.

Your LH surge occurs approximately 36 hours before ovulation, and ovulation can occur at any time of day or night.

There will be a trigger point at which LH turns a OPK positive. Having two positives in a row means that you have most likely caught the surge on its way up, and then on its way back down. This is why there is absolutely no point in testing subsequently after you first +ve OPK, so will hopefully save you some money!

An egg only lives for about 24 hours before it begins to degenerate if unfertilised. This means fertilisation has to occur within a few hours of the egg's release. Although sperm can reach the fallopian tubes very quickly, they undergo a process called capacitation on being deposited in the female's reproductive tract. A sperm is NOT capable of fertilising an egg before it has undergone this process, which takes a few hours.

Sperm can live in the fallopian tubes for a few days (around 5), so putting all this together means that you ideally need to have sex a day or two before you ovulate, and up to the point of ovulation. If you're having sex 24 to 48 hours after ovulation then achieving pregnancy is going to be pretty well impossible.

HtH

By the way, as it was your LH surge you caught, and not ovulation, you are probably about to ovulate any time now so get thee to bed (with your DH) as promptly as you can!

Oooh knackered - aren't you clever; I hadn't hear of capacitation before (and I thought I knew gallons of stuff about conception) - tell us more...!

And OP I would take the first +OPK as a sign to start getting jiggy. And then get jiggy the next day too if you can. My DP has slow swimmers too - I would welcome any advice about timing with slow swimmers. What have you heard? I guess the day of ovulation is best, which sounds like last night or today for you. (Btw are you outside the UK if you tested today at 18.30? It's not yet 16.00 for me in London...?!)

xxx

This month was the first where I had charted my temperature and I found that my OV happened two days after my +ive OPK.

I think the plan it to get up to as much SWI as you can as soon as you see a +ive.

Hi KnackeredCow ,
WOW, what can I say, so much information.
So am I right in saying, the two times I got double purple lines, is, a) on the way up surge, and b) on the way down surge?
We got the first double purple lines, (LH surge confirmation) on Friday night 24 Feb. at 23:30h.
So reading further what you say, then no need to do another LH surge confirmation test.
So 36 hours from the first "double purple" is when you say I should release my egg. (As LH surge happens 36 hours before ovulation)
So, from 23:30h on Friday night, winding forward 36 hours takes us to Sunday 26th Feb, lunch time ?
Am I still correct ? midnight friday to lunch time Sunday = 36 hours.
So "egg fertilisation time" is from lunch time Sunday to lunch time Monday = 24 hours, Still correct ?
GOD, this is complicated.

Fay

Hi beangrower,
He he , your funny "getting jiggy", made me laugh, thanks.:) :o
Well sure enough, we did just what you suggested.
He got me all nice and warm, turned up the heating on full.
Got lots of pillows for me, then our fun began.:o
But I should stop there, because it won't be fair to say too much.
Any way, all I will say he done good last night, twice, (we had movies in bed) and again this morning.
We used "Conceive Plus+" from Sasmar as a slight lubricant.
This we bought from Boots, and it is a "Pre-Conception lubricant"
God, I hope it works, it's nearly £15 a tube of 75ml.

Any way he has promised me again this lunch time, if I stay in bed with the pillows under my bum. So I guess "lunch in bed" meand some thing different for me today" :) :) :o
I think I can manage that.

We wanted to time "jiggy jiggy" as best as we could, as his swimmers are slow, and can't swimm for long.
If my egg can move more down the tubes to meet his egg, then we guessed his swimmers wouldn't need to swimm that far to find it, poor souls.

He said to me the other night" you don't make it easy for my swimmers at all, first they have to swim up hill, through a closed gate (meaning my cervix) then with no direction signs, and in the dark, you expect them (the swimmers) to find the tubes".
He made me fall about with laughter.

He asked me a few days ago, maybe a week ago, If I could do "hand stands" like the ones we used to do as kids in the school park.
I said "yes, of course, why ?", so I did a hand stand against the lounge wall just to show him.
"Good" he said, when we next do sex, I am going to push our bed up against the bedroom wall, and you can do a "hand stand" after we sexed, "Give my guys a sporting chance, for the down hill run" he said. I nearly fell over laughing, yeah, right, me naked against the bedroom wall, doing a hand stand, dream on, , , , , , , , ,

He didn't ask last night though, we just used pillows.

We are in China together, and are 8 hours in front of you guys in UK, so I guess all the timings of posts will be strange.
It's 11:43h here now, so I guess you are all fast asleep in UK, as it's 03:44h there.

All the very best to every one trying.

Fay

Hi Pipbin,
We used to use the temperature measuring, but found it "all over the place".
Some days up, some days down, some days more down, then up.
We used an Excel spread sheet to graph it all over 2 months.
We give up in the end, because from what I saw on the graph, it was so inconsistant, that it just didn't make sense for me.

I started my last period on morning of 8 Feb, and I got my first double purple lines on Fri. 24th Feb. Thats 17 days from start to LH surge.
If i add 36 hours to "ovulation" then it's 17 days plus 36 hours, so can be some where between 18 and 19 days for me.
I am so mixed up some times.

I really hope it happens for us, I am getting quite crappy feelings when my period arrives, telling me that our "jiggy jiggy" was not good enough.

If it doesn't happen this month, then for next month, as soon as we see the first "double purples" then we will "jiggy jiggy" strait away, no delay, just keep at it day and night, "rabbits comes to mind"

Last week he said was "saving himself" as he puts it, as we knew very soon I was going to get the "double purples", we didn't do sex for may be 2 - 3 days before.
He was not a happy bunny at all, he gets too much feelings.

We keep my timings on a excel spread sheet.

Hope every thing works out well for you and your better half.

Right, time for me to put the computer away now, its 12:15 "LUNCH TIME"

Fay.

Fay

What are your periods like; are they irregular in nature?.

You will drive yourself half mad with anxiety if you carry on putting such pressure on yourselves. It is all too easy to get the date wrong and even normally fertile women do not ovulate every single month. Also timing of intercourse does the couple no favours at all in terms of the relationship; what if one of you does not feel like making love?. All this timing stuff and spreadsheets takes all the fun out of it.

Also pillows and handstands are not necessary either. Enough sperm will get to the cervix from where it will not escape.

Make love when you both feel like it.

A person can have multiple LH surges throughout the month; it does not happen just the once and such surges can be misleading anyway.

Yes - Attila is giving you good advice. Maybe have sex every 2-3 days from about day 8 to about day 24 (if your periods are never longer than 32 days). If you keep an eye on your LH surge time aim to have sex on the first day that you get double purple lines. Even if your partner has slow swimmers he needs regular sex for healthy sperm.

Also the egg can release 12-36 hours after the LH surge. It's different for every woman and probably slightly different every month.

Good luck; keep relaxed and laugh a lot and hopefully you'll get your BFP.

Ditch the spreadsheet!

Hi AttilaTheMeerkat ,
Many thanks for you advice,
Mostly I am regular to within a day or 2, very rarley 3 days.

We really don't put any pressure on ourselves, we are both here relaxing, and both do together as we please.
We don't have an hour apart, we travel when we please, and stay home when we want, it's always togeter.
I can hop into bed for an hour or three in the afternoon if I want, some times he will join me. Look at it as a "Spanish siesta".
I know timing of "love making" is important, but he is quite fine, and never tires, without sounding, you know., , , , ,

We do the excel as a game, just to look back on previous month, and to see when the signs appeard, and when we did the "jiggies", when the period came etc.
For us doing the excel is easier than making notes in the dairy.

We always make love when we feel like, this is almost always every day, unless my period is there.

Infact, I am the one to tell him, he must slow down some, he just keeps me tired out !
I said to him ok to do one day, then miss the next, then ok again next day miss the next, all that did was he wanted twice on the "ok days"
What could I say ? suggest I say no ?, thats not me.

Huggs, Fay.

Hi again beangrower [hugs],

When I first read your post, , , , , you know, just scan through very quick , , ,, I misread it, then I read it again, and seen that is was sex "every 2 - 3 days" "not 2 - 3 times" a day.
Any way, back to yourpost.
So reading the collective posts here, it seems that as soon as I see the first sign of the double purple lines, then thats our signal to "jiggy"
Your" aim to have sex on the first day that you get double purple lines " that will happen for us any way, because we have so much free time on our hands, popping off to bed needs no planning.
We may have been 12 hours late getting to the party, however it is all good experience and a great learning curve.
I haven't had any children before, where he has, so I really want to get the BFP so very much, and he is urging me on all the time, giving me reassurance.

Fay

Won't be long now. x

Hi beangrower ,
Oh you don't know how much I want to get pregnant, well actually I guess you do, as we are all in this together.
I just really, really, hope it's going to happen for us.
Did I mention a while ago that we went to the local hospital for a check up, and they found a "chocolate cyst" on one of my ovaries.
It scared the life out of me.
I hope that it's not goint to prove any adverse affects for us.
Here is me thinking all the time it could well be his slow, and not so many swimmers.
Then I get this shocking news, it really took me down to the ground.
I nearly felt like crying.
He is so loving and supportive, he will never give up, just like I wont.
After the examination the gyno girl, then refered me to the specialist, who explained all the gyno girls findings.
He suggested we should just go to step 2 and start ICSI.
However, we want to try for a while longer yet, and get the timings as perfect as we can.
If that still fails, then ICSI it may well have to be.
It will be a hit in the pocket for us, but thats life.
We did think about cheaper options first, like IUI, where his swimmers are washed, and then put inside me on the optimum date for conception.
It's much cheaper, but also much less reliable than full blown ICSI.

Thanks for the warm words of encouragement,

Fay. x

Yes - we will win, one way or another. I'm a bit ancient at 40 but I've had one DS with ease at 38 so there you go.

Keep positive and you will get your baby.

xxx

Hi beangrower,

Well I guess I will be knowing around 9 March, if and when the period comes.
I am on tenderhooks, so hope the days pass quick.

I don't feel any different, but then I don't know "IF" I should be feeling any different.

Fay.

Hi All,

Well it's just gone 9:15h pm, and still no period.
I think period was due yesterday or today.

I know it doesn't mean much just yet, but just wanted to post some thing.

Fay

Aw, fingers crossed for you that your period doesn't come this month then Fay! :)

Good luck, Fay

I think the way to do it might be this:

Write down what day your period started, the time before last time. Then write all the days after that in a long line, on a piece of paper. Right up to the day your last period began.

Somewhere in the middle of that line is when you will have ovulated.

If you start having sex a couple of days after your period, right up to maybe day 17 or 18, you should have plenty of swimmers waiting up there ready in plenty of time for your egg to be released.

The best days to be having sex are the two days before you ovulate. So by the time you get your two lines on the OPK, you have already had a day or two before that when you could have been doing it, to make sure they have time to getto the right place and sit around waiting for the egg.

Does that make sense? I hope so

You could also try charting on Fertility Friend, it's very good and it figures out your ovulation from your temps and other signs.

It's here and you don't have to pay to use the free charts, just if you join, you get more options etc but I manage on the free ones.

Wishing you all the best x

Hi eeloo1
Hi BettyPerske

The period arrived last night :(
Last month started mid morning 08 February
This month 12 March afternoon.
I work that as 33 days?

So devide 33 days in half = 16 and half.

So it looks like 12 March plus 16 to 17 days brings me to 28 to 29 March, am I right?

In February, I got my first double purple lines 17 days after the start of my period.

Is this making sense?

Thanks to each and all,

Fay

Hi all,
Now to start again, period finished this morning.
So just on count down now to the double purple line time.
I have a good idea when they should display.
So here is hoping maybe this in my lucky month.

Fay.

Hi all, can anybody give me some advice pls.im using CB opk, I've used it before and would often get 9+ flashing smiles before a static one, I stopped using them for a few months so this is my 1st month bk. I didn't get any high fertility or flashing smileys it just went from low straight to peak or a static smiley face. Plus as I use frst mornings urine like instructions say to would this mean my LH surge could of happened anytime between going to bed the night before and taking the test the next morning/day. Im very confused by this, can someone PLEASE PLEASE HELP US,
Thanks In Advance, Baby dust to all TTC