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Calling all charters: What is going on here?

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Pipbin · 12/02/2012 11:04

So this is my first month of temping. I have charted for a while but just used OPKs and to keep a record of BDing.

I had a positive OPK on Friday but still no OV according to my temps. Can someone take a look and tell me what they think is going on?
Cheers

www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3525a6

I have a 35 day cycle as a rule btw.

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jennifer86 · 12/02/2012 12:24

It's quite difficult to say at the moment... I don't use OPKs so don't really know how reliable they are, etc, but I have been temping for a short time. Looking at your chart I don't think you've had a temperature shift yet, but I would expect you to have one in the next few days. Particularly if you're still having EWCM then it's likely you haven't ovulated yet, which goes along with the temping (rather than the OPK). Also, if you usually have around 35 day cycles then I would expect you to ovulate somewhere between days 19-25 (ie 10-16 days before your next period). So that would support the fact that you probably haven't ovulated yet, as well.

Like I said, though, I'm not overly familiar with OPKs, but I thought temping was supposed to be the MOST reliable as it tells you that you have ovulated, rather than just that your body is potentially preparing to ovulate.

If you're TTC I would keep going with SWI until you do see a temp rise as it may be the next few days which are most important!

Good luck.

MooleyWooleyShamaLamaDingDong · 12/02/2012 12:29

My understanding is that you ovulate 12-36 hours after a positive OPK. I agree that you have not yet ovulated but should do soon. With temps you need to see a sustained thermal shift that is higher than your pre-o temps!

eurochick · 12/02/2012 12:48

I reckon you will probably ov today and see a thermal shift from tomorrow.

kalidasa · 12/02/2012 12:52

Yes, I agree. You definitely haven't ovulated yet but all the ewcf is v. promising and I'm sure you will soon. You should certainly consider yourself highly fertile today!

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Pipbin · 12/02/2012 13:19

I guess if I OV today then it'll only be 48 hours after the +ive OPK.

Right, knickers off and off to tell the hubby I'm highly fertile!

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Pipbin · 13/02/2012 07:44

Looks like you were right wise ladies of mumsnet. Massive thermal shift this morning.

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homeaway · 13/02/2012 09:34

Was just about to say that it looks like you ovulated yesterday :) :)

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Pipbin · 13/02/2012 10:31

I think so too homeaway.
I just need to wait for fertility friend to put up the cross hairs.

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pippilongsmurfing · 13/02/2012 13:49

Hi pip, it's my first month fo charting too, and I'm also using Fertility Friend.

I too had a big temp rise after ovulation, but it's quite confusing sometimes isn't it, all this temp taking, charting etc.

I'm on my first ever Clomid cycle, are you on any meds to assist conception?

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Pipbin · 13/02/2012 16:16

Hi Pip. Nope not taking anything prescribed but I am taking pre-conception tablets, vitamin b and manuka honey.

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homeaway · 13/02/2012 18:41

After ovulation your temp will rise by around .20 or .25 from the previous 6 temperatures. Also your cm will dry up and after three dry days and an elevated temp you can see that you ovulated. HTH

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Pipbin · 13/02/2012 20:05

Thanks homeandaway I was hoping that FF would tell me when I was going to ovulate rather than tell me after the fact, but at least combining this and and an OPK I should get to predict it and confirm it has happened.

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eurochick · 13/02/2012 20:09

FF will almost certainly give you crosshairs for Sunday.

Unfortunately charting doesn't really give warning of ovulation, only hindsight on when it happened. So it is good for getting to know your cycle but you need to be dtd anyway. I find it useful to know when we can stop doing it on a schedule and go back to doing it when the mood takes us!

homeaway · 13/02/2012 20:25

Chick is right, you only know you have ovulated after the event. You can spend lots of money on a clearblue fertility monitor if you want and that will give you some more advance warning. Egg white cm is a good indicator that you are approaching ovulation and you will find it will dry up afterwards.

pippilongsmurfing · 14/02/2012 09:30

I was hoping charting for this month would give me advance warning for next month, iyswim?

Hope fully it will!

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Pipbin · 14/02/2012 10:24

Clearblue monitors seem to be a lot of money.

I guess that charting will give me a better idea what has happened, and the knowledge that I am ovulating.
It also makes me think that I am actually doing something.

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kalidasa · 14/02/2012 11:10

Charting does give you some reasonably reliable sense of when you'll ovulate, but only when you've done it for quite a while. (I charted for contraception for years.) For instance, if you notice after six months that you always have 2 days of 'watery' cf followed by 2 days of 'egg white' cf and then you ovulate (confirmed by temps) the day after the second ew day, then with a bit of experience you'll have a good idea each month of when ovulation will be, even if the actual day of it moves around. So one month that sequence of 2 w + 2 ew + o-day might start on day 9 and you ovulate on day 13, the next month it might not start until day 12 and you ovulate on day 16 but you'll have an idea of what's going on.

Obviously this does take experience though, and even with lots of experience there are always some odd months - e.g. if you get ill or very stressed in that 'run up' period that often delays everything. And I know some women don't see much cf at all which makes things harder.

It may be worth tracking mood/libido/energy and things as well. The most obvious signs for me that I'm 2-3 days off ovulation are a) ew cf (though sometimes this lasts for quite a while) and b) a very high sex drive! The latter sign is never wrong! Tbh, I think if I knew absolutely nothing about my cycle I'd always end up having most sex at the most fertile time anyway

pippilongsmurfing · 14/02/2012 15:11

pipbin - for me, the charting does make me feel like I'm actively doing something positive towards getting that BFP, iyswim? So I am definately going to carry on with it.

I'm going to do another test if AF has not reared her ugly head by Friday.

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Pipbin · 14/02/2012 16:26

I think this is it Pippi, charting has given me something to do. I'm a facts and figures kind of girl and if I can look at percentages and the like then I'm happy.
Also, now that I have started charting with temps I can see that all the times I have just used OPKs I have missed O'day. However this time I have managed the regulation every other day over 'fertile week'.

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Pipbin · 14/02/2012 22:18

Now it turns out I have a bit of a sore throat. I hope that's not stuffed up my BBT.

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Pipbin · 15/02/2012 08:58

Well done to eurochick it was indeed Sunday. Wine

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pippilongsmurfing · 15/02/2012 09:42

Pip, I have a sore throat too! How weird.

homeaway · 15/02/2012 11:27

You umm could change the way you take your temp as in (dare i say it vaginally ) . Doing it that way stops the whole question did i sleep with my mouth open etc... it is more reliable. Running off to hide now :)

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Pipbin · 15/02/2012 12:26

You are right homeaway I just can't bear the thought of sticking that up my foo foo each morning. Anyway, I'd never hear it beep.

I'm just wondering if my sore throat is enough to raise my temperature.

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pippilongsmurfing · 15/02/2012 14:10

I have been doing mine under my armpit, as didn't want a dry open mouth or drinking anything accidently first to affect the result.