So Santa is bringing me..a lap and dye :-( advice needed!

[whereismywine]

so my appointment came through for the 22nd December. Mm. I don't have babies (hence the lap) and we are spending Xmas with my mum. Will it make Christmas miserable? I've searched for a few old threads but would be nice to hear from people who have had this done in terms of how long you feel crap for and if ill fancy my Christmas dinner!

I am almost phobically scared of hospitals but even more scared of finding out I have blocked tubes. I'm a great wife at the moment.

Hi - a lap and dye won't change the fact you are a great wife . And you should still enjoy your Christmas dinner.

My lap and dye took a few days to get over. I was up and about quickly afterwards and able to look after myself (shower etc.). I think I had the op late in the evening and went home the next morning.

The immediate problem was that GA wakes me very tired and sleepy - so it took a couple of days to feel less knocked out. Also, they pump your tummy full of gas so that they can have a good look round - and the gas has to find it's own way out. The trapped wind was really quite painful for a couple of days, especially in my shoulder tips. Mint tea was great for making me feel more comfy and getting the wind out. And I did feel a bit as if someone had been rummaging round my insides (which they had). The actual little holes and stitches weren't too bad at all - but needed to be kept clean and dressed.

What took longer to get over was the news - which wasn't great. On top of the surgery, it did leave me feeling weepy and blue.

I'm sure yours will go very smoothly and you will be able to enjoy Christmas resting and being pampered - the ideal excuse not to do the washing up IMO.

Hi

I had a lap and dye done a few years ago and as far as I can remember it wasn't too bad. You will be a bit sore and tender for a few days and expect pain in your neck and shoulders after the op which is totally not where I thought I'd have pain :) - it's something to do with the gas they use to expand your abdomin and the residue settles in your neck / shoulder muscles. But a nice massage from loved one will sort this out.

You won't be doing cartwheels over Christmas but you should be able to enjoy a nice relaxing day with plenty of good food!

Best of luck with it and I hope you get good news. Mine came back clear and I cried with relief when I got the result - actually that was the worst bit, waiting on the consultant to tell me the outcome!

Hope it all goes well. x

The timing isn't bad tbh - you can have a few days doing very little over Xmas.

I had a laproscopy 16 years ago. Mine was on a Thursday. I was in and out on the same day. The GA left me feeling groggy and I was stooped over walking for the first few days. On the Sunday I took a coach ride from London to Birmingham, back to University. Carrying my weekend bag was a bit tricky but I was fine. I needed loose clothes for a few days because of the gas in my abdomen.

I took the Monday off and went back to uni as planned on Tuesday. On Monday I developed a rash. I went to the GP and she thought it was an allergic reaction to one of the drugs I had been given, probably the GA. In uni on Tuesday I came very close to passing out in a class so went home and took the rest of the week off, which is what I probably should have done in the first place. I'm not sure how much of the fainting incident was due to the op and how much was due to the allergic reaction, but my advice would be to take it easy for at least a week. It's only a short op, but a GA is a GA and puts on a strain on your system, so take it easy afterwards. Spend Xmas laying on the sofa and doing a lot of a dozing!

Hi whereismywine so sorry to hear you need to have a lap and dye to check tubes. I had one last year after 2 1/2 years of TTC.

I was in and out in a day. GA no problem at all. Two tiny scars one in my belly button the other on my knicker line. The scars were a little uncomfy, but I could wash etc the next day. Just a bit uncomfy standing up from lying down. The thing that hurt the most was the gas as birdie suggests, if it's all not released your shoulders and neck do hurt, and I was rather windy for a few days. I had a week off work and used the time catching up on sleep and having some TLC from anyone who would offer it. I wore crap old pants with no elastic so as not to irritate the dressing/stitches, big maternity pads to catch all the gloopy blue dye, took about 24 hours for it all to come out, and then big tracky bums for the next few days so as not to irritate the scar as it was healing.

All the best for the 22nd, will keep my fingers crossed you get the all clear.

Hi ya,

Can I ask how long you were waiting on the appointmet? I saw my consultant at the end of September & still haven't been given a date for mine yet?
I suppose it means that you'll have your feet up over xmas

Good luck

Definitely get some peppermint tea or cordial in for after the op, the trapped gas can be really painful, especially in your shoulders.

I've had 4 laps and the recovery has been pretty much the same each time. It was painful for a good couple of days afterwards and a good week before I felt completely back to normal. The scars themselves weren't too sore, it was more what had gone on inside of me. I just felt very bruised inside.

However, on each lap they had been looking for endo so had had a good rummage about. Never had dye done so that may be less pulling around of your insides.

I would imagine that just before Christmas is fairly good timing. The GA should be out of your system by then, the gas should be gone and although you may still be feeling sore, at least you can put your feet up and be pampered :)

Good luck, hope it's good news for you.

Hi everyone, thanks so very much for the advice. On phone so won't namedrop but will revisit later. I went for hycosy on 9th oct after initial visit in mid august. That failed because they couldn't get the catheter in through my cervix, lap suggested (I'm annoyed by this as I would like another go at hycosy at better point in my cycle not cd 20) and it came through a month later. I feel very pleased at how fast it's all been. Did look into private hycosy to avoid GA but it was £600!

Hi ya,

Well I've finally heard from my hospital 2 months after my initial visit saying they've been trying to contact me & can't leave a message on the only number they have for me & if I don't reply in 5 working days they'll remove me from the list. Know this to be lies. When I phoned back it too 3 hours to speak to someone to fing that the co-ordinator wasn't even working that day. When the person who answered the phone checked my details they have both my home & mobile number!!! Both of which have working answering machines. Anyway this lady has left the co-ordinator a message to call me back but why the co-ordinator is phoning me is to find out when the beginning of my cycle is...how long's a piece of string???? They need this information to determine when I'm ovuating...am I?

It makes you laugh at times doesn't it?

Hi fairy how frustrating for you, hope it gets sorted soon. Oddly, I had my pre-op last week for an op late December. They did pregnancy test?? I'm praying to the pregnancy fairy that this cycle we manage it to avoid the whole gassy Xmas scenario!

Also, seen as this thread is up and about today, did anyone have a lap and dye for fertility where endo was found? Did they remove it, or is it far more complicated than that?

Thanks WIMW - will update tomorrow when I have more news. Looks like I've a 31/32 cycle this month. today is CD30 & I've just had some brownish discharge so think thats me out this month. Could mean next month is the one!!!

I did come on today!!! Found out I did ovulate but somehow missed it! Got the date of my lap & dye - 21st Dec so I'll be putting my feet up this xmas!

We can be lap and dye buddies! X

LOL, we can share out experiences together. I'm so not good on GA or having drips in my arm/hand as i hate needles. Am dreading it!!!! But if I get PG from it I'll be sooo happy & it'll be worth it!

I also hate ops. Been ttc 12 months now - how about you?

4 years!!! Had 6 months of clomid 2 years ago & nothing happened although did ovulate. Told I'd be offered IVF - refused as too heavy. Put on metformin last year, lost weight (not loads but enough to keep cons happy so far). Went for cons app about 8 months ago to be told that I'd be given met & clomid together if wasn't pg by sept & sent for more scans to check my PCOS. Went back in Sept to see head cons who said that the mets had removed my cysts & that I had a follicle at the time big enough to suggest I was ovulating. So put on Clomid just to give ovaries a boost & Lap & dye to flush my system out! Have had HYCOSY in past. Blood tests this month have again said I'm ovulating but I'm still not PG!!! Just don't know what to do anymore. I'm someone who never gives up but I feel like I don't know what else to do. Been thinking about trying accupuncture again!!!

fairy sorry it's taking you so long, 12 months feels like ages so you must be feeling really frustrated. I hope the lap and dye does the trick for you. Who knew it would be so hard!! Let's keep each other posted x

I had this for fertility- had endo in my tubes (and everywhere really!) - they removed what they could during the op and said sorry... only half a tube working- I was .

Consultant said I had about a 10% chance of getting pg naturally and put me on the IVF waiting list.

However... I was pg 6 weeks later - the op increases your chances of getting pg for 3 or so months or so after it, and I got lucky! Have as much sex as you can afterwards is my advice!

Thanks glitter kitty I do wonder if they'll find endo, I get bad pains and ibs...and spotting before my period. Did you have any inkling that you had it?

Thanks WIMW - yes In have fond memories of 12 months (like when you talk about being 18 or something when you've waited this long). 12 Months was when we had our first app with fertility cons & I found out I had PCOS. My HYCOSY said tubes were clear so if there is a problem then it's more to do with the lining now I suppose. Cons did say it's like having a spring clean! lol. Mum suffered from Endo - but she had us 3 fine & a hysto when I was 8 so she didn't have any more painful periods. Apparently she always suffered with it & told to have a baby to clear it. I was first & didn't solve it! Funnily enough I've also been told that my PCOS might right itself once I have one - well see, won't hold my breath!

I also get really bad periods but that has only happened since TTC. Wasn't due to coming off the pill as I had already stopped that 2 years before TTC & meeting DH. I stopped taking it as it was giving me major headaches, mood swings & my blood sugars were all over the place. Now know that it must have been when the PCOS kicked in! The pain can be awful, very clotty (sorry for TMI) & heavy for 2-3 days.

Thanks Glitter will do! Thanks for the advice

where- I had bad pains when I was younger, but wasnt so bad later. I had lots of endo in my tubes apparently, and they can only get the bits at the womb end IYKWIM. So they were stiil in v bad shape after op- but DP had a good sperm count and it just shows- half a tube is enough to get you pregnant- make the most of those months afterwards!

After the op my periods were much better. But after I had DS, my tubes got completely blocked by the endo. So no more babies here . But at least I got one, so I'm not complaining. Good luck to you. I waited 5 years for my son, hope you get lucky- report back eh?

Thanks for this gk sorry to hear your tubes got all bungled up but hurray for your little one. I always wanted at least two or three babies but now, I'd give anything for just one. I think? Or maybe it isn't really like that. I'm also resigned to this taking a long time. I'm scared to find out but I also just want to know what's going on. I will keep this thread bobbing along after the lap for an update.

GK I've given me hope as been TTC 4 years now so I'm sure if it takes another year I know I'm not the only one in that boat! Sorry to hear no more. I have bad periods with pain but HYCOSY showed my tubes to be clear so if I do have endo, it's only in womb. I've also got a tilted womb so have been told that that can cause the pain too!

Totally agree WIMW I'd give anything for 1!!

Anyone updated on this yet??? Mine is on Wed!!!!!

Good luck today WIMW
I'm ok, sore round the belly button & bloated. Everything clear but left tube has a slight kink in it - not impossible to get pg but slightly harder.

Now Santa needs to bring me a BFP!