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When's the best time to get pregnant? Use our interactive ovulation calculator to work out when you're most fertile and most likely to conceive.

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Calling all mothers of one or more girls.

45 replies

starsandstripes · 31/08/2011 10:35

Please would you humour me and be very kind and answer a few questions for me?

I am thinking of starting to try and conceive dc3 as of next September. This will most probably be my last dc as can't see myself as a mother of 4 and would really like to get back into work full time at some point.

I have two ds's and with this attempt would love a girl. I would also love another boy I hasten to add but if I could tip the odds towards a girl then I would.

So there are a few factors that such as timing of conception which have been linked to the sex of your baby. But i have now read that this isn't really relivent as male and female sperm infact live the same amount of time and swim at the same speed in flow. It is more to do with other factors such as the ph levels of the lady and sperm count of the man. Can you please let me know how many of the factors below read true to you at time of conception.

Please humour me and please be honest and answer as many as possible if not too personal. I am truely curiuos. Smile

1.DP boxer/briefs plus does he have hot bath/showers?
2.Did you drink diet drinks often or eat food with aspartame in it?
3.Are you of a low weight/average/slightly overweight but on a diet?
4.Did/do you skip breakfast?
5.Did/do you drink allot of milk or eat high calcium food?
6.Did.do eat allot of cranberries, strawberries, raspberries or drink the juice equivalent?

  1. Did/do you have a low salt diet?
  2. Did/do you often eat bananas?
  3. Did/do you eat much red meat?
10. Did/do you eat a diet that is quite acidic? 11.Very personal I know do you think you orgasmed when you concieved your DD/s as this is ment to change the ph levels of your VJ, making it more favourable environment for male sperm.

Ok those are my seemingly loopy questions. Grin

I know people will say it's a 50/50 chance. But flipping a coin has a 50/50 chance of the outcome...

but there are factors that could sway to one out come over the other.
Such as is the coin being head or tails up when it's flipped, how many rotations does it do in the air, is it stoped mid air or allowed to drop to the floor etc. etc.

OP posts:
tallulah · 31/08/2011 22:25
  1. Both & no
  2. no
  3. were thin with 1st child (girl) and very fat with 5th child (girl)
  4. no
  5. yes
  6. no
  7. yes
  8. no more than anything else
  9. no- vegetarian
10. no idea 11. can't remember

DC2 and 3 (both boys) were conceived mid-cycle. DC1 (girl) just before mid cycle. DC4 was a surprise (boy) immediately following a miscarriage, as was DC5 (girl). No logic to it.

Original poster
starsandstripes · 01/09/2011 12:13

one last bump

OP posts:
wanttogetmyfamilyback · 01/09/2011 12:23

1.DP boxer/briefs plus does he have hot bath/showers? Yes
2.Did you drink diet drinks often or eat food with aspartame in it? No
3.Are you of a low weight/average/slightly overweight but on a diet?average slim
4.Did/do you skip breakfast? Always
5.Did/do you drink allot of milk or eat high calcium food?loads
6.Did.do eat allot of cranberries, strawberries, raspberries or drink the juice equivalent? Cranberry juice in mod

  1. Did/do you have a low salt diet? Def not
  2. Did/do you often eat bananas? Never
  3. Did/do you eat much red meat? Yes
10. Did/do you eat a diet that is quite acidic? Yes 11.Very personal I know do you think you orgasmed when you concieved your DD/s as this is ment to change the ph levels of your VJ, making it more favourable environment for male sperm. Orgasmed before partner I have 2 girlls and a boy and this was same with all however with boy I drank a ridiculous amount of milk and with both girls craved sour things Good luck Ok those are my seemingly loopy questio
wanttogetmyfamilyback · 01/09/2011 12:23

1.DP boxer/briefs plus does he have hot bath/showers? Yes
2.Did you drink diet drinks often or eat food with aspartame in it? No
3.Are you of a low weight/average/slightly overweight but on a diet?average slim
4.Did/do you skip breakfast? Always
5.Did/do you drink allot of milk or eat high calcium food?loads
6.Did.do eat allot of cranberries, strawberries, raspberries or drink the juice equivalent? Cranberry juice in mod

  1. Did/do you have a low salt diet? Def not
  2. Did/do you often eat bananas? Never
  3. Did/do you eat much red meat? Yes
10. Did/do you eat a diet that is quite acidic? Yes 11.Very personal I know do you think you orgasmed when you concieved your DD/s as this is ment to change the ph levels of your VJ, making it more favourable environment for male sperm. Orgasmed before partner I have 2 girlls and a boy and this was same with all however with boy I drank a ridiculous amount of milk and with both girls craved sour things Good luck Ok those are my seemingly loopy questio
skeletonbones · 01/09/2011 12:59

I have two DD's
1.DP boxer/briefs plus does he have hot bath/showers? boxers and he did have hot showers
2.Did you drink diet drinks often or eat food with aspartame in it? no hated diet drinks at the time
3.Are you of a low weight/average/slightly overweight but on a diet? average weight I think first preg, had just lost two stones of babyweight before conciving second DD
4.Did/do you skip breakfast? yes always, breakfast = urgh
5.Did/do you drink allot of milk or eat high calcium food? I love cheese, coffee with cream ect so yes probably
6.Did.do eat allot of cranberries, strawberries, raspberries or drink the juice equivalent? yes i would have been drinking lots of cranberry with the second as I had a uti just before concieving her, probably eating strawberries too. cant remember with oldest dd.

  1. Did/do you have a low salt diet? no
  2. Did/do you often eat bananas? sometimes not exesively though
  3. Did/do you eat much red meat? no, vegetarian
10. Did/do you eat a diet that is quite acidic? dont know really, lots of tomatoes on pasta and stuff and like vinegar on chips so maybe 11.Very personal I know do you think you orgasmed when you concieved your DD/s as this is ment to change the ph levels of your VJ, making it more favourable environment for male sperm. Definately didn't either time, me and ex were 'sexually incompatible'Blush good luck for the baby making stars and stripes!
happyforthemostpart · 04/09/2011 13:47

Hi Starsandstripes,

We are also thinking of trying for a girl (definitely want number 2 baby but thinking of trying to tip the balance towards a girl).... Interesting that you've read up that timing not so relevant anymore? Can you point me in the direction of some of the literature? I have read the shettles book and chesterman phillips book which both say timing is the key factor. I know they are old though so interested in what you have been reading.

Some ladies who have been kind enough to share their personal conception dates seem to have conceived girls earlier in their cycle too...

Good luck - I really understand the longing for a daughter despite a fiercely strong love you have for your son who you wouldn't change for the world :)

mymumdom · 04/09/2011 13:52

We have 3 DD and 1 DS

1.DP boxer/briefs plus does he have hot bath/showers? Boxers/ showers
2.Did you drink diet drinks often or eat food with aspartame in it? Yes
3.Are you of a low weight/average/slightly overweight but on a diet? Very overweight, was dieting at that point.
4.Did/do you skip breakfast? Not as a rule
5.Did/do you drink allot of milk or eat high calcium food? No
6.Did.do eat allot of cranberries, strawberries, raspberries or drink the juice equivalent? no

  1. Did/do you have a low salt diet? I didn't try to but never add salt to food
  2. Did/do you often eat bananas? one a day
  3. Did/do you eat much red meat? once or twice a week
10. Did/do you eat a diet that is quite acidic? Don't know 11.Very personal I know do you think you orgasmed when you concieved your DD/s as this is ment to change the ph levels of your VJ, making it more favourable environment for male sperm.Yes
notnearlyasblondasiwas · 04/09/2011 13:56

Have 2 DDs

  1. Tight jockey shorts and hot showers
  2. Yes lots
  3. Overweight not on a diet
  4. No but eat 3 hours or so after waking
  5. Yes
  6. No
  7. No
  8. No
  9. Yes
10. Not particularly 11. No for most recent DD, yes with DD1

Hope you get what you want!

Offspring · 05/09/2011 03:56

Not sure if you are still tallying, but here goes:

1.DP boxer/briefs plus does he have hot bath/showers?
Briefs. Warmish showers, not overly hot.
2.Did you drink diet drinks often or eat food with aspartame in it?
No, mostly I drink water and tea and very occasionally juice (but not from concentrate).
3.Are you of a low weight/average/slightly overweight but on a diet?
Average weight, when ttc had a very good diet and exercised every day.
4.Did/do you skip breakfast?
Never
5.Did/do you drink a lot of milk or eat high calcium food?
I don't drink milk on its own, but have it in tea, on breakfast cereal etc.
6.Did.do eat allot of cranberries, strawberries, raspberries or drink the juice equivalent?
I do eat a lot of fruit, including strawberries, but not so much cranberries or raspberries.

  1. Did/do you have a low salt diet?
Yes
  1. Did/do you often eat bananas?
Probably 3 or so a week
  1. Did/do you eat much red meat?
About once a week 10. Did/do you eat a diet that is quite acidic? I do eat a lot of fruit 11.Very personal I know do you think you orgasmed when you concieved your DD/s as this is ment to change the ph levels of your VJ, making it more favourable environment for male sperm. I have no idea tbh, we had sex every day for about a week and a half when ttc and sometimes did, sometimes didn't. Depended how much of a rush we were in/how tired we were Grin.
Wabbit · 05/09/2011 04:19

I have girl (and boy but lets talk about dd's dad!)

  1. boxers - hotshowers
  2. no never ever
  3. was putting on weight at the time
  4. yes
  5. no
  6. no
  7. no
  8. no
  9. was vegetarian at the time
10. not that I know of, lots of hummous and crudetes 11. yes

fwiw OP - I have heard that having sex before you ovulate increases the chances of giving birth to a girl - apparently the sperm destined to be boys are 'stronger swimmers' but are active for a shorter time than those who are destined to be girls who swim slower but for longer

So: if you have sex three days before you ovulate then the boys will be less active and girls will have more of a chance to impregnate the egg.

Now writing that it sounds like a croc of shite - but I heard it originally on mn Smile

robino · 05/09/2011 06:57

3 girls here. the only answers I would give that match your perfect for a girl answers are high calcium, lowish salt intake and low potassium; can't stand bananas!

Original poster
starsandstripes · 08/09/2011 20:55

Thank you all so much, sorry for not coming back to post we went on holiday and my phone died so couldn't mumsnet.

Happyforthemostpart.

There are seven sway factors. Timing is one of them. But rather than than the Shettles method of doing the deed pre ov by a few days the NewZeland study found out that the most girls were born when concieved after Ovulation.

A mother of 7 boys who had been trying the shettles method thought up the O+12 method. Doing the deed 12 hous after Ovulation. But this is tricky working this out and you have to chart your Ovulation for months. (Which would be good for any method cut off before Ovulation) It has a very high sucess rate on the In gender website, but that was coupled with the diet.
Basically both genders are concieved before during and after ovulation. Slightly higher numbers at different times of the cycle. The advice is to do the opposite of what you did to concieve the sex that you have.

The problem with me was I wasn't trying when ds was conceived so not really sure what happened there and fell really quickly with ds2 when we were trying. So have no idea of when he was conceived in relation to my cycle. And can't remeber how often we were DTD.

1.pH- this means the pH caused by diet, hormones, ions, supplements and douches. A douches is not as good as changing your pH through oral methods.
2.Minerals- You NEED to track your Calcium, Magnesium, Sodium and Potassium. For ttc a girl and ttc a boy you have different targets to meet. Minerals are first obtained through diet then supplements.
3.Diet- It is very important to stick to the gender diet. It is more than just a swaying diet as it encompasses all the studies (gender diet, pH, ions, minerals) into one diet.
4.Hormones- This is only controlled through supplements, diet and drinks. Studies show that hormones play a huge role is swaying
5.supplements- I put this in the 7 sway factors because it backs up so many of the factors.

6.Timing- Many studies say that Timing does not work. However 3 newer studies say it may. Because of the new studies I have left Timing in the sway factors.
7.Ions- Ions can effect the polarity of your egg and your pH. Ions come from many different sources and some people are as effect by them as others.

If you are really up for putting some work into you can try gender swaying which is all about changing your ph and hormone levels through a change of diet and exercise. I have been doing all my research through the InGender website some of the stuff is extreme on there which doesn't appeal to me (At home sperm sorting). But i'm happy to follow the diet and keep reading up on the timing thing until i'm ready to TTC.

That's why I posted on mumsnet (which I've been posting on and off since conceiving Ds1) as I wanted to see if natural gender swaying occured (like it did for me with my boys) Through my bizarre questions!

The most important question would have been what's the natural PH of the mucus by your cervix can you just get some litmus paper out and test, ta! But didn't think i'd get any takers Grin

Ladies who have allot of girls probably naturally had or have a ph of 4-5
So by asking about the foods they ate I was hoping to see if I could see a pattern.

All in all it's all been very interesting and I've learnt a hell of allot about conception, egg life, sperm life, Ph levels, cervical mucus, ions all sorts! So even if I don't end up having a girl the whole journey will have been an educational one!

OP posts:
AandRMum · 08/09/2011 21:29

2 girls here ...

1.DP boxer/briefs plus does he have hot bath/showers?- boxers hot showers

2.Did you drink diet drinks often or eat food with aspartame in it?- not at all ever

3.Are you of a low weight/average/slightly overweight but on a diet?- average for first, carrying baby fat for second

4.Did/do you skip breakfast?- all the time

5.Did/do you drink allot of milk or eat high calcium food?- yes lots of milk

6.Did.do eat allot of cranberries, strawberries, raspberries or drink the juice equivalent?- lived on cranberry juice at the time

  1. Did/do you have a low salt diet?- love salt
  1. Did/do you often eat bananas?- rarely
  1. Did/do you eat much red meat?- yes
  1. Did/do you eat a diet that is quite acidic? yes

11.Very personal I know do you think you orgasmed when you concieved your DD/s as this is ment to change the ph levels of your VJ, making it more favourable environment for male sperm.- No idea?

privateprancer · 08/09/2011 22:09

Here are my answers - I have 2 girls (only)

1.DP boxer/briefs plus does he have hot bath/showers? boxers & hot showers
2.Did you drink diet drinks often or eat food with aspartame in it? never
3.Are you of a low weight/average/slightly overweight but on a diet? low to average (or at least Iwas at the time Grin Sad
4.Did/do you skip breakfast? sometimes
5.Did/do you drink allot of milk or eat high calcium food? no to a lot of milk but a big fan of cheese
6.Did.do eat allot of cranberries, strawberries, raspberries or drink the juice equivalent? not particularly no

  1. Did/do you have a low salt diet? not particularly
  2. Did/do you often eat bananas? yes
  3. Did/do you eat much red meat? never
10. Did/do you eat a diet that is quite acidic? no 11.Very personal I know do you think you orgasmed when you concieved your DD/s as this is ment to change the ph levels of your VJ, making it more favourable environment for male sperm. yes
hellymelly · 08/09/2011 22:19

I have two dds. DH wears those calvin klein longish legged jobbies.and no hot showers.
I never drink diet drinks ever.
I was at the lower end weight wise with dd1 and ten pounds fatter with dd2.
with dd1 did often skip breakfast but I was breastfeeding when I conceived dd2 so was eating plenty then first thing.
I do drink milk-but not bucketloads.
I eat fruit,they were out of season when I got preg,but I may have eaten them
I eat too much salt
I eat bananas quite often
no red meat
acidic? no idea.is chocolate acidic?
orgasm? yes. Smile

FessaEst · 08/09/2011 22:26

I've got 2DDs and according to your list, I should have 2 DSs!! Also, the timing and circumstances of conception were different for both. I honestly don't think you can influence these things.

Jacanne · 08/09/2011 22:58

I have 3 girls.

1.DP boxer/briefs plus does he have hot bath/showers? - Boxers/hot showers
2.Did you drink diet drinks often or eat food with aspartame in it? - Loads of diet coke.
3.Are you of a low weight/average/slightly overweight but on a diet? - very over weight I'm afraid
4.Did/do you skip breakfast? - yes
5.Did/do you drink allot of milk or eat high calcium food? - not really
6.Did.do eat allot of cranberries, strawberries, raspberries or drink the juice equivalent? - no

  1. Did/do you have a low salt diet? Not an official one- but don't add salt to anything
  2. Did/do you often eat bananas? - no
  3. Did/do you eat much red meat? - No, I don't eat meat.
10. Did/do you eat a diet that is quite acidic? Apparently veggie diet is. 11.Very personal I know do you think you orgasmed when you concieved your DD/s as this is ment to change the ph levels of your VJ, making it more favourable environment for male sperm. No, I don't think so.
PottyRefusnik · 08/09/2011 22:59

I have 2 DDs:

1.DP boxer/briefs plus does he have hot bath/showers?
Boxers, never briefs but hot, hot showers

2.Did you drink diet drinks often or eat food with aspartame in it?
Yes, lots of diet drinks

3.Are you of a low weight/average/slightly overweight but on a diet?
Was on a diet or had a low body weight each time I conceived

4.Did/do you skip breakfast?
Yes, never really have breakfast.

5.Did/do you drink allot of milk or eat high calcium food?
No

6.Did.do eat allot of cranberries, strawberries, raspberries or drink the juice equivalent?
No

  1. Did/do you have a low salt diet?
Yes, I try to.
  1. Did/do you often eat bananas?
No
  1. Did/do you eat much red meat?
Not really
  1. Did/do you eat a diet that is quite acidic? Not sure really. Lots of citrus fruits and diet drinks so probably.

11.Very personal I know do you think you orgasmed when you concieved your DD/s as this is ment to change the ph levels of your VJ, making it more favourable environment for male sperm.
First time no I didn't, second time I can't remember.

happyforthemostpart · 12/09/2011 08:14

Hi stars and stripes - hahaha re: your litmus paper comment!!

so what do the results you've got on mumsnet tell you? I have been following the thread with interest.

I can't believe how many people skip breakfast! I can't function without it.... maybe that's why i have a boy ;)

biglips · 23/09/2011 12:37

ive got 2 girls

1.DP boxer/briefs plus does he have hot bath/showers? Boxers and very hot showers
2.Did you drink diet drinks often or eat food with aspartame in it? no
3.Are you of a low weight/average/slightly overweight but on a diet? slightly and no diet
4.Did/do you skip breakfast? never
5.Did/do you drink allot of milk or eat high calcium food? yes
6.Did.do eat allot of cranberries, strawberries, raspberries or drink the juice equivalent? no

  1. Did/do you have a low salt diet? no, but i dont add salt to my foods
  2. Did/do you often eat bananas? yes
  3. Did/do you eat much red meat? yes
10. Did/do you eat a diet that is quite acidic? must do as ive got girls 11.Very personal I know do you think you orgasmed when you concieved your DD/s as this is ment to change the ph levels of your VJ, making it more favourable environment for male sperm. no,coz i couldnt relaxed properly, lol
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