With angel babies in the sky, some of us expecting rainbow babies, others still ttc and definitely swi!!

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started new thread! we do talk a lot, don't we?

I'm fine thanks! trying to keep DD occupied on this warm day. DH is working all day and only coming home round 7pm. He wanted to do a BBQ tonight, but no chance for that. It seems so silly do a BBQ for 2, cause by the time he's home, DD needs to go to bed. Plus I'm vegetarian :)
So it will be shop bought pizza tonight instead.

I'm on CD 15 today, still no sign of ovulation, I guess it will be a late one again.

I've got a question, you lovely ladies might be able to help me. It's DD's birthday on 31st of October, she'll be 3. Is it custom here to take something into school/playgroup on your birthday? Like cupcakes or so?
I know it was in Belgium. Last year I didn't do anything as she only just started going to the childminder then.

Blue, it wasn't the custom when I was at school (although it is at work). A Halloween baby - how cute!

Angel, it is pouring with rain here! So not very hot. of those of you with sun.

Mel, you are so brave to have spoken about Ruby like that.

Am waiting for the first movement here, now that I am officially 14 weeks and with a posterior placenta. Come on, baby bean! Kick as hard as you can! I haven't felt anything definite yet - the odd twitch, but I'm never positive that it's bean and not just a muscle twitch or wind or something. Cheese, Shakey and others ahead of me, when did you feel the first definite movement?

DH is drinking frizzante wine and I am jealous! I know I could have a little glass, but I want to get plastered , not be moderate. [lush emoticon]

evening girls, i have only just felt definate baby kicks within the last week, now 18+6, thought i felt them a couple of weeks ago too but was still unsure.

Too I m always late feeling movement and very rarely kicking as such. I normally feel flutters and windy like movements. With both Georgie & Gils I tend to feel the odd kick only and more movements like I mentioned above. Can t remember when I first felt anything probably about 20 ish weeks. Xxx

blue it isnt a custom here but its cute so why not do it anyway.

I spent the whole of yesterday out enjoying the sun, sorry to those who had the rain. I watched the rugby while having a fry up down the pub, then sat in the beer garden all day, followed by a family BBQ and then a massive ice cream on the beach while watching the sun set, pure bliss, if only everyday could be like that. Today is full of washing, but I am going to be doing some crafting, so not too bad.

mel well done.

Felt a little better today but then felt really strange as I've moved onto morning insulin but was still highish and it's left me feeling a bit shaky. Hate feeling like that. Off out for sunday lunch with my parents after which will be nice I hope. First time injecting while out though! I'll have to wait for the food to arrive at the table and then head to the toilet! I'm quite nervous about it actually.

Hope everyone is enjoying the sunshine xx

Blue I'm a vegetarian too but do like a bbq still, I like jacket spuds and some of the meat free/quorn things are very nice. Everyone takes sweets in on their birthday here (all 3 dcs and all their friends) and we did when I was at school too.

Too I felt flutters before 12 weeks and did last time too, that I knew were definitely the baby. Feeling stronger movements now but not proper kicks just yet. Sainsburys do some really lovely alcohol free sparkling wine and there is a nice still white and rose I know of too that are lovely. i'll definitely be remembering both days but I've also wondered about dates on her headstone, on her cross at the moment it say the 6th Dec but I think I'll have both on her headstone. I've thought about it a lot and it feels right to me to do that and dh agrees.

shakey that's lovely, can't wait to feel a proper kick :o 16+1 today

green lovely and sunny here again too, it's just a shame I've been ill and ds2 has his broken foot so we can't do much to enjoy it! I feel a bit better now I've told people about this pregnancy tbh, there have been a few times lately when I've nearly said something that would have given it away and stopped myself so I decided to just do it. It's nice to know that family and friends are sending good vibes too :)

Angel I've been speaking more about Scarlett lately to people, often crops up when you're asked about children etc and I feel wrong to deny her so I just tell them. It can make them uncomfortable but I try not to let it and just be "normal".

razz any more luck with the doppler? It's often a lot lower than you expect and make sure you move slowly everywhere, try either side first and see what you can find.

Hello all,
Beautiful day here also, enjoying it though it has made the ironing hard work!!
too how exciting that you think you may be able to feel movement now. With Thomas I started feeling flutters at around 15 weeks that grew stronger, by the time that I lost him he used to really tickle me, never really developed into kicks though one of his problems were very short limbs so that could of been why???
bluecan you believe that at my daughters school you are not allowed to bring in treats on b'days......it is incase other children have any allergies. You can at my sons school though.....he usually takes mini choc bars
green your evening sounds wonderful, it makes me miss my hubby even more, I havent seen him since we concieved, it is hard
cheesehope you start finding your feet with the insulin and that it all settles down. Im glad for you that you and hubby have decided what you would like on Scarletts headstone. I hope you dont mind but when you linked the other day to the casts you had made I had a look at the pictures of Scarlett, she was beautiful and my heart truly broke for you and your family.
I have put the doppler away for now as I have read that you shouldnt try every day?? and will have another go in the week (if I dare)

All continue to enjoy the sun

Chesse bugger them!!! If people feel uncomfortable when you talk about Scarlett that's their problem & I always think what's a little discomfort in their lives which passes momentarily compared to what we ve been through. We saw my neighbour yesterday who's 26 weeks pg talking about she's only got 14 weeks to go then her ll baby will ve here & I said if you re lucky they re on time. Ant said afterwards " it's not fair is it? All she's worried about is if the baby is here on the due date or not?" I was surprised as normally it's me that has unpleasant thoughts. I don t , for 1 minute, wish them any I'll Healy but people are so naive and smug sometimes aren t they???
I said as long as our GILS is fine I don t really care what happens to them.
They were the couple that said to us previously that they wouldn t find out the gender of their baby as they
" would be disappointed if they didn t have a boy!!!" TO US!!! I wad very good and didn t say what I wanted to " well, a lice screaming baby will do for us regardless of sex"!!! Unbelievable!!!! So us & the other neighbours have our FX for team pink!!!! ( however they are the type of couple where they will have a boy. One of those who always come up smelling of roses!!!)
Anyway , my attitude now is ; don t worry about other people as regardless of what happens to them will make no difference to our lives. Concentrate on us instead & whats important in life. Ok, rant over!!! Was just surprised at Ant as he's normally the more level headed of the both us shows he's worrying. Poor love.
Just returned from the cinema been to see
" tinker,Tailor,Solider, Spy" very slow going a bit of a disappointment really.
Hope everyone's having a good day xxx

I don t want a LICE baby !!! I want a nice screaming baby!!!!!!!

My dh is similar he hides his worry and his opinions, but then the other day a good friend of his who is going through a separation from his wife (they have 2 kids) turned round and said to him 'I really regret having kids' If I was to do it again I wouldnt have children. I really cant believe hes said this, to my DH of all people. DH looked pretty annoyed about it, and then said he doesnt realise how good hes got it. He hasnt mentioned it since. But what kind of a fiend is that you should never wish your kids away like that. I dont really like the guy think hes immature idiot over this whole break up. But anyway thats a whole other thread and story that I dont really want to get into.

Oh my god green I cant believe someone could be so bloody insensitive, what a twat! Your poor DH and his friends poor kids.

angle at a lice baby.

Oh fuck fuck fuck, I have a voicemail from the hospital asking me to phone in to discuss my Down's syndrome screening. I didn't pick up the message until 4.10, although it was left this morning, and naturally the midwife who left the message buggered off home at 4 and I have tried to phone Triage, my consultant, the main midwife surgery and my community midwife and got absolutely nowhere. DH has finally got through to Triage and asked if someone can investigate, and he's been told they'll call him back. I bet. Why does the whole fucking system shut down at 4pm??

Too that is unbeleiveable that they would leave a message for you like that, dont they realise that your mind is going to be going on overdrive!

Too I hope you get hold of someone today, you must be so worried. I'm waiting for my dr to call me back as I had a letter about blood tests, apparently one of the ones I had recently came back abnormal but I don't know what one. God knows what time they'll call back as they always run so late. Hope it's something simple for you xx

too I hope you find out what the call was for, please don't worry.

1 in 10 risk of Down's. The nuchal measurement was fine - it was about 2.2, which is perfectly normal, so it must have been something in the blood test. I have to call back tomorrow to discuss amniocentesis.

too hope you are ok?

Too Massive hugs, how are you feeling? Do you think you'll have an amnio? Did they check for nasal bone etc at your scan? Not sure exactly how many weeks you are now but you could opt for a second opinion at www.fetalmedicine.com/fmc/ if you're anywhere near London, they are amazing and also do amnios (they have a lower risk than nearly everywhere else from them too iirc).

oooh Too you could really do without all that hassle now! have you made your mind up already whether you would do an amnio yes or no? big hugs for you! keep us up to date! we're all here to support you! Look at it this way 9 in 10 for a perfect baby without Down's!

Pretty sure will have amnio. They didn't check for nasal bone, no - or at least, no one mentioned it. I'm 14+4, so they might not be able to redo the nuchal test. I'm in Edinburgh, so London is a bit far.

I'm not ok. I don't know what to do if it's positive, and I can't stand the thought of waiting for an amnio date and then for the results to come back, while worrying if I'll miscarry as a result of the amnio. I also can't stand not knowing, and having to spend the rest of the pregnancy wondering.

Too I can't imagine how difficult it must be for you right now and you really don't deserve it. If you decide to go for the amnio could you go private as I think the results would be in sooner, I know at the place I linked to they have preliminary results after just a few days and do the amnio on the same day as they find a problem. I guess check the miscarriage rate by the person carrying it out too as they do vary.

I suppose one problem would be if you do have to wait a few weeks that you'll be even further on and that would be worse having to make any decisions then. I just hope it's good news for you.

Oh too, I just dont no what to say to you. Life really is so very unfair. How is hubby coping?? I had an amnio when I was pregnant with Thomas, it was all so surreal I was totally numb and felt nothing. No problems afterwards though (from the amnio anyway). Are they going to give you another scan??? The choices we all make during our pregnancies are so very individual and so I dont feel it would be much help to tell you what I would do. Sending you and your DH hugs and positive vibes and of course praying for the best.
Take care of each other.

Hi lovely ladies - coming on here with the way the thread moves is a hit and miss right now! in process of moving and so dont have much time to get on with packing and work!!! blahhh blahh blahhh, but i do hope you are all well and taking one day at a time, time is so moving right AngelGeorgie!!!!!
and wow seen a few numbers of weeks and just thinking wow milestones everyday!
Too- whoop on the 14+4!!!!!!!!Im so sorry that you are going through this not knowing and i hope it works out for you!sending praying to you and yours x
green - what a total stupid comment to pass regardless of the reasons he thinks wow no matter what is it your childrens fault??????
cheese - 16+1 - whoop! ( flutters will become stronger soon)
Razz - hope your well.
Blue - i have all crossed for you that you will have your BFP real soon july 2012 babies right!
big hi to all not mentioned my brain is like a bucket with holes!!!!!!!!!

Too just wanted you to know I'm thinking about you and hoping that everything turns out ok. Stupid saying try and stay positive but hopefully the odds will work for you. Lots of love and hugs xx

Thanks guys. I'm just not managing to think positively. I feel like I've used up all my being brave and positive already. It hurts too much to think that it might be ok, because I don't know that and I might cheer up only to be told for certain that it's not ok. Does that make sense? DH is being very brave, although he has cried a bit too. I've discovered a whole section on MN devoted to antenatal tests/choices - who knew, eh? I seem to keep on finding the sad parts of this website.