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TTC 6+ months plus, part 2

998 replies

skeletonbones · 27/06/2011 21:58

New thread as the old one was getting to 1000. So, 4 BFP's in the last thread, lets see if we can up the total considerably on this one :)

OP posts:
NervousNelly · 17/07/2011 17:30

Haha purple I don't think you are a loser, you are a very nice cat-lady and can be my friend Wink. Said cat is currently prancing around the house, seeming quite pleased with herself. All is well Grin.

I have to go to the supermarket now. Ugh. I will try to refrain from walking down the baby aisles pretending I am looking for cotton wool for my make-up, but really just doing it so I can lust after ridiculous things like infacol and nappies. Weird.

poutintrout · 17/07/2011 17:41

If you are a regular loiterer of the baby aisle you will have seen those new fangled nappy disposal systems too. What the hell are they - does it decompose the nappy? I'm too frightened to get one down and have a look in case some voice booms over the tannoy "Barren lady in Aisle 3 please step away from the baby products they don't concern you" Grin

Biscuitsandtea · 17/07/2011 18:02

Aww Pout xx

Sadly, they don't decompose nappies, just wrap them up in a weird sausage sort of thing, but they do keep the smells away a bit more than a normal bin Hmm xx

Biscuitsandtea · 17/07/2011 18:03

Ooops, pressed 'send' too soon. Was going on to say your time will come when you too can own a magic nappy-sausage-maker xx

NervousNelly · 17/07/2011 19:03

hahaha Pout you just made me spit out my wine tea!!! That's exactly it - I feel like I have no right to be there and someone will spot me for the fraud I am Blush. I have to say I have missed the nappy-composter/sausage maker completely though. I'm ashamed to say I failed to resist, and not only did I wander slowly down the aisle, "learning", as I like to think of it; but also bought something. It was sudocreme though, which I use all the time on the animals, it's not like I bought a box of aptamil just in case there is a world shortage in the 9+++ months until I need it Hmm.

biscuitsandtea - as if getting a BFP wasn't going to be exciting enough. But then we'd be able to fulfill a life long dream of owning such an illustrious object as well Grin.

izzybizzybuzzybees · 17/07/2011 21:22

I have a sausage nappy wrapper for dd!!

Biscuitsandtea · 18/07/2011 07:19

Morning ladies,

Temperature dive bombed this morning (prob 7 or 8 dpo) so think I've had another 'practice' month. Seriously - I"VE HAD ENOUGH PRACTICE NOW!!!!! Angry

And I had got myself all cautiously optimistic again, even though I promised myself I wouldn't. I ov'd late and thus we hadn't... ahem...Blush...given it our best shot necessarily this month, but still had myself symptom spotting and thinking this was it.

Oh well, Clomid starts next month when AF decides to roll in, but given late OV could be waiting another week for her. yawn yawn.

Hope everyone else is ok this morning? xx

mrsden · 18/07/2011 08:20

Morning,

pout and nelly you do make me laugh with your supermarket tales. I do exactly the same. I always plan not to go down that aisle but somehow I end up there. I now know where to buy the cheapest nappies, who sells gripe water etc. I sort of gaze at everything, wondering if I will ever be able to buy this stuff but then I realise that I probably look like some crazed loon and that I have a big sign on my back saying 'one half of an infertile couple' so I scurry away feeling all Blush.

biscuits sorry about temp drop. I know nothing will make you feel better today, sometimes I do feel better once AF actually arrives but it gets harder and harder each month. At least you are starting clomid next month and it sounds like your Dr has a good plan for you.

I spent yesterday with my pregnant friend. It wasn't too bad but I do feel so jealous. It's a real envy feeling, something I haven't felt since I was at school and my best friend got asked out by the boy I had a massive crush on. I thought adults didn't feel this sort of envy. I'm jealous because she got pregnant the third month trying, a whole 9 months after I started trying and I've been married for 4 years longer. I know that isn't how it works but it feels so unfair. She has her scan next week and I so wish it was me. But I tried to push all this to the back of my head because she is my best friend and I don't want to lose her. Although I am worried that we will have less and less in common as she enters the world of being a mummy. She mentioned a few times that she wished we would have a baby so our kids could grow up together and we could be on maternity leave together. I thought about telling her everything but decided not to, she wouldn't understand and I didn't want to make her feel bad. So I lied and said "oh we like being independent and having fun, we don't want to be tied down with a baby blah, blah, blah". She surprised me by saying that she was worried about losing her old life and the responsibility was just beginning to dawn on her. It made me realise that like someone said earlier on in this thread that those of us who have tried for so long have had time to think about it all but when you get pregnant straight away you are totally thrown in.

TMI alert Af has been awful this month, I'm on CD 4 now. I've had really painful cramps and awful cramps that feel like it's my bowel when I go to the loo. Of course now I'm paranoid I have endo even though it isn't like this every month. I have turned into the biggest hypochondriac.

Biscuitsandtea · 18/07/2011 08:48

Thanks MrsD - fingers crossed Clomid works some magic next month. I've sort of decided this morning that if nothing has happened in another year (and by this time I intend to have done a cycle of IUI if appropriate and a cycle of IVF then we'll be calling it a day on the ttc front I think. If we got pg a year from now then DS would be about 4.6 so I don't think I would want an age gap too much bigger than that.

Anyhooooooo,

Pout, Nelly and MrsD I have to say that I do the supermarket thing a bit too, and I have DS! But I still wander down the baby aisle and look at all the baby clothes and things in Sainsburys, wondering if I'll ever get there again. Mind you with my Mumtum I bet people just think I'm a few months along anyway Blush.

MrsD what an emotional day it must have been - it must be difficult with it being your best friend. It's odd but I think I find it much easier to tell people we're having trouble ttc no 2 than I did when we were ttc no 1. To be fair we didn't have as much trouble with no 1 but it was 9 mths or so because of a miscarriage. But I felt a whole load more secretive about it all. I think because a lot of my friends I made having DS (NCT class etc) we have a 'tmi' sort of friendship where you've shared birth stories and stuff and I tell them WAY more than I would tell anyone else. Very odd as generally I am quite a private person. Obviously all friendships are different, but if you are thinking of telling her or wondering if you should, try putting yourself in her shoes. If the roles were reversed would you rather she told you? Only you know your friend though and I hope that you get to maintain a strong friendship because goodness knows we need what we can get in these trying times! Oh and hope AF buggers off soon and takes her nasty pains with her - booo to AF Angry

xx

ThatWayMadnessLies · 18/07/2011 08:52

Morning all,

I am pleased to say that I manage to avoid the baby aisle at the grocery store most days, but I am a bit worried that the ladies in the john lewis baby section will start to recognise me. I used to really look at things, now I sort of walk through quickly so I don't draw too much attention. If anyone ever asks if I need help I say that I'm just looking for a gift for a friend Blush.

Mrsden sorry that AF is awful this month. Sometimes I think that mine gets worse just to stick the boot in. I have similar symptoms to you, but I get them for a day or two every month. It does make me really worry about endo. If this month is not the norm for you, though, I would try not to over analyse it (says the woman who googles everything...)

Going for coffee with my pregnant friend this morning. Bracing myself for the Envy feelings. She's lovely and I have my fingers crossed that everything goes smoothly for them, but it is hard not to talk to friends about what we're going through. It would be selfish of me, though, to make her feel bad during what is one of the happiest times of her life. I just have to have faith that I will get my chance soon.

Hope everyone is having a good start to the week :)

ThatWayMadnessLies · 18/07/2011 08:59

Biscuits that was my first ever crosspost!

Thought I should say that I did tell my best friend when she was pregnant, but the decision was made when we both started trying, so a lot easier than if she was already pregnant. She took one month with her first and 3 months with her second, so she can't really understand what this is like, but she did try to be a bit more sensitive around me than she would have if she hadn't known. Given that I see her every week, it would have been really hard to keep it from her anyway.

The friend that I'm seeing today isn't as close a friend so I don't think that I need too tell her. I have only seen her about 3 times during this pregnancy so it's easier to deal with, IFYKWIM.

Biscuitsandtea · 18/07/2011 09:16

Ah yes I see what you mean Madness - several of the friends of mine that know are people where we started trying at the same time (and several of those have their babies now Sad). The other main category are work friends who nagged and nagged me about no 2 and I told them to stop them from nagging me :) They were quite good friends anyway but one girl would check my can of coke to see if it was decaf etc and in the end I had to tell her because it was such a rollercoaster I couldn't aways deal with it Blush

joycep · 18/07/2011 11:56

Hi Gaga - yes I'm on the cyclogest progesterone every month. I didn't have it last month as I was on clomid which brought AF 8dpo eek. Gynae very surprised by that so now off clomid and I've just had the injection to make me ovulate and will now take progesterone. Not sure what proof there is that it helps but I've got the same thought process as you. Plus my progesterone levels are slightly on the low side anyway. The tabs you refer to - what are these??

Mrsd - sorry about your best friend. You jsut have to remember it will be your turn one day. I think you're very brave not telling your close ones what's going on. I understand that feeling of fearing that you will have less in common with friends who have babies as I have been told you change a lot. But I think good friends will always be there.

Pout - i'm pleased that signs of ovulation kicked in for you. It's always a relief isn't it. I can't believe as time has gone on, my life has been reduced to getting excited about just seeing ewcm or a smiley opk - forget bfps, jsut the relief of ovulation signs is awesome .

I was slightly concered about my lack of motherly instinct at the w/e. I was told to just look after nephew in law for 3 minutes in the park and he started running off. I had no idea what to do apart from to call him like a dog! He wouldn't come and so I started bouncing his football trying to entice him back to me. When i finally got him back I started patting his head. I'm sure I would be a bit more in control if he was mine but really I felt a bit shit how rubbish i am with kids!

Biscuitsandtea · 18/07/2011 12:06

Oh Joyce, made me :) with your story about the park.

I worry too about not having enough skills with children and I have DS who is nearly 3.

I never knew what to do with or say to kids before having DS and even now I find I'm ok with those his age or younger but still a bit in the dark with those older. Even new babies I find I'm forgetting what to do with them now as it is such a long time since he was a baby. It does come though and I'm sure DS doesn't mind the fact that I'm learning as I go (or at least I hope he doesn't Hmm) xx

eurochick · 18/07/2011 12:08

Heh. I always project my dog knowledge on to kids. When people talk about how their kid is doing this or that annoying thing, I always say "have you tried x, it worked with our lab"....

Biscuitsandtea · 18/07/2011 12:10

I bet it's spot on most of the time too Grin xx

gaga1 · 18/07/2011 13:17

Hi everyone, literally had about the tenth baby announcement with the gorgeous pics on fb today, wouldn't mind so much I I didn't look at them and think I could have had that by now if my body wasn't so useless!!! Got my reflexology tonight which I've just started (hasn't worked yet but it is relaxingWink)

Joycep- mine is a profesteroe tablet with a name beginning with n, I have to take from day 21 to 26, are they the days you took it? I'm worried 21 may be to soon...

And yes I also dream about all the things I could get if I actually had a baby, I used to love going into the baby bit in John Lewis to see which pram etc I would have but it just makes me feel like crying now. Gosh I sound like such a loser!

mrsden · 18/07/2011 13:22

gaga I've taken a little break from fb because I couldn't bear the constant updates and baby photos, everyday there was something baby related on there. But even without fb I can't escape it. I've just realised that I know of babies due to be born in Aug, Oct, Nov, Dec and Feb. I have the most fertile friends in the world!

gaga1 · 18/07/2011 14:31

I think I will leave for a bit too. It's my best friend who's upsetting me the most, her and my other best friend are due the month I was and one of them literally updates EVERY minute with: the baby kicked, my baby has hiccups, the moses basket arrived etc etc. It's driving me mad and I think she is being very insensitive or am I being really touchy?!I swear when I finally get pregnant though I WILL NOT put any photos of scans on there I really don't see the point!!!!!

Fatimalovesbread · 18/07/2011 15:21

Hi everyone

I'm on my iPhone so ill have a proper read through later, hope you're all doing ok? Smile

How long did it take for everyone to get their DHs SA results? Did he have to go to his GP for them or did they write?

ThatWayMadnessLies · 18/07/2011 15:34

Funny that I just came on here to rant about facebook and you were lot were already talking about it. Just saw that a friend from school in about to have her third and another friend from school commented that she is about to have her second. We are exactly the same age....... Can I stay friends with people but block their posts for a while? I don't mind checking up on them when I'm in the mood, but the photos and comments just seem to pop up when I'm feeling my lowest :(

Fatima we're going to the doctor on Friday for DH's and my results. It's been about two weeks because of my tests, but they said the SA results should take about a week. They haven't called us, though, we've just made an appointment to see the doctor ourselves.

Survived tea with pregnant friend. She is very nice and we talked about lots of things as well as babies, so that was good. She is also the only pregnant friend I have who hasn't posted anything about it on facebook :o

joycep · 18/07/2011 15:44

Gaga- i'm quite keen to do reflexology but i always start these things and if it doesn't work after a few months , i give up. I have to take mine from straight after ovulation for about 13/14 days - then i test and if bfn, i stop...I just have no idea whether this is right though. I would like to trust my gynae but the trouble is with the net and MN, you read what other people have been told and soon there are doubts in one's head as what you've been told differs. What did your gynae say about progesterone tabs? If you have ovulated by day 21, surely then it is fine to take the tabs because you are already producing progesterone by then...?? Oh and I don't think you are being touchy about your friends - do they know what is going on with you because if so I think that is incredibly insensitive. Block their updates.
Best thing I did was to get off FB - it's a wonderful place to show off how great your life is with updates and photos but not great when things aren't quite rosy!

poutintrout · 18/07/2011 16:00

Madness I hope that your date with your friend was okay in the end. You mention that you get painful periods and wonder about endo. Can I ask you whether you get low grade period type pain at other times of the month too. I ask because I have had this the last two cycles and am freaking out a bit.

Biscuits I'm sorry that you had a temp dive and don't feel all that optimistic this cycle. When my temp used to do this I would look at the Erratic BBT gallery and it would make me feel better Smile

Mrsd It's so hard isn't it. I know what you mean about worrying about having nothing in common with other mums. I feel like a freak & I especially could identify with your idea that you may as well be wearing a sign on your back saying infertile. I totally feel like that.

I know that everyone has said that all this waiting to have a baby makes you more certain of wanting a baby but I'm a bit worried because if I'm honest I find that the longer this is going on the more I am doubting myself and panic that the whole must get pregnant thing has become a kind of personal challenge. I know I am probably just having a wobble and maybe my mind is trying to protect me against disappointment but I still feel a bit worried. Sad

Joycep {grin} at your nephew exploits. Did you get him to sit so you could give him a biscuit when he came back?
I know what you mean though, I doubt my mothering skills all the time especially when I teach my dog to swear at the "bloody bastards" making noise outside. That makes me sound like total Jeremy Vile material, I don't usually have a potty mouth, but it's just something that has become a running joke [blush} Still doesn't stop me shouting at the TV when Jo Frost is on at the "dumb ass parenting" like I'm some kind of pro!
I also worry when I look at some of the lunch boxes I send my nephew to school with. A fruitshoot (I know the mumsnet equivalent of nuclear reactor waste in a bottle), two packets of crisps, a dairylea dunker and 2 quid to stop at Tesco does not a lunch box make! To be fair he has food issues & wouldn't eat most of the "normal" food we have. I think though that my poor mothering skills were summed up when my nephew said "Auntie Pout everyday is Halloween with you" Shock

Gaga It must be so hard and you must feel a bit like your nose is being rubbed in it. I suppose that when you get pregnant and are looking forward to having the baby it must feel a bit like you & the bubs are the only people in the world and maybe you lose sight of appropriate FB info. Shall we appoint a FB moderator for when we all get upduffed?!

I still find myself surfing the internet looking at baby stuff even though it makes me sad. I try to stop myself but sometimes you let yourself dream that it might be you soon. I know exactly what pram I want, the babygros, nursery stuff. By the time I get pregnant I expect that this stuff I have chosen will be the equivalent of terry towelling nappies, smocked dresses & those Silvercross prams that were like stage coaches!

Karbea · 18/07/2011 16:06

I think I must be really odd, I don't find myself doing any of those things, and when I hear about friends I generally think... Oh it'll be me soon/next.

Had a peak on my cbfm yesterday and today, I think I might have ov'd from both ovaries this month, is that possible? I had an ache on my right side on Thursday and then on my left last night, today I've a slight belly , not really a pain, really just an ache (sort of pulling feeling) although I must admit, belly has felt slightly odd since the acupuncture last Wednesday.

My temps are all over the place, but I have a feeling my thermometer might be broken...

Anyway, how are we all? I'm still pretty much down, and off work with stress... My flat still hasn't exchanged! Grrr.

poutintrout · 18/07/2011 16:13

Following on from my last post, obviously my dogs don't swear when I ido my best Frankie Boyle impression, they bark. They also don't say "mummy" despite my best and protracted efforts to teach them Blush

Karbea I'm sorry that you are off work and stressed. I really hope that you feel better soon and that your flat exchanges.

How much are new batteries for a thermometer? I wonder if it's cheaper to buy a new thermometer. Mine only cost three quid off ebay.

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