Bfn and no AF

[emmaloupolman]

Who wants 2 join this bus i am cd36 and had 3 bfn's already the latest af has been is cd34

Hey Knitterati, Emmalou and knittingknots-thanks for the lovely greetings. Got back a negative. Still no AF. So no ovulation. Feel pretty powerless. I am hoping its stress and not premenopause, although i always thought i would not get this yet because my mum was really late with hers and had a baby at 45. I am 46 with a 26 year old, and I would have liked more children but did not meet the right person until later years and he would love a child and I would love it to happen for us. I feel selfish cos i know there are many people on here who have no children and i should be content with my son. But it is always there in the back of my mind that i would love another child when i met the right person, and has been for a number of years. But it may be too late for me. My man is very much if it happens it happens, but i hated telling him the result and i know he was secretly disappointed (He is childless). The problem is that he has not been tested and also he wont consider any help with us regarding IVF although maybe this is jumping the gun. I would appreciate any advice on next steps. I got a feeling im gonna be on the conception thread for a while. I am really sending good wishes to everyone who is on the conception train, and i am not giving up yet.

You're quite right to not be giving up Mimi. How long have you been trying? are you keeping track of when you're ovulating and so on? I started using ov tests and I started temping. I know it sounds dumb, but even that makes me feel as though I'm doing something! Are your cycles pretty regular? I'm no expert but I think there's plenty of other things you can try before you get to IVF.
The waiting is hugely frustrating though, you have all my sympathy. When you're not pregnant and not ovulating (or, as my charming DH put it, "Your innards aren't functioning") it does just make you feel completely powerless. Have you told the doctor you're worried about menopause?

KnittingKnots-Thankyou. I have not been trying long about 8 months, Im usually regular with AF but now I have a missing AF this month. I am attempting to get an appointment with DR re Perimenopause which is like trying to get a date with Johnny Depp (not that I would know, in fact it may be easier)I dont know what temping is but any advice is greatly appreciated. Please tell me you're experience if you want to as I am genuinely interested and new on here.

Completely agree with knitting, Mimi - don't give up. I'd suggest you get persistent with Johnny Depp the doctor. They'll be able to run blood tests to rule out menopause etc.

I haven't done temping (yet) but the principle is that you take your basal temperature using a very sensitive digital thermometer each morning before you get up. You chart your temperature and I think your temp goes before ovulation and if you get pregnant. That's the theory, but I haven't done it yet since I'm trying to stop myself from getting too scientific about it and "just relax" - might be worth a google?

It might also be an anovulatory cycle - where you don't release an egg. I've heard that happens about twice a year to most women.

knitting when are you due to test? Must be soon right?

Still no AF for me on CD45 and off for a blood test this morning to figure out if 4 HPTs have been lying with BFNs (which I doubt, but you never know - I live in hope of a BFP).

OOH blood test this morning?! So jealous!! Let us know how it goes and then we can all count down to results day!!
Tested this morning, bfn. Boo. Had got myslelf all psyched up for a bfp and ended up having huge row with DH about it. Fine now, but we just react differnetly to things, I make a fuss, and he bottles it all up and acts like he doens't care ? which I find super frustrating. I guess I'll have to get used to it.
It was a bit early to be testing though, if the ov test was right then I'm only 9 days after ovulation day. I know this is a dumb question, but does that mean I might still get a bfp or do you thing the game's up this month? I know early testing is generally frowned upon, but I always thought that was because it might give a false positive ? can it give a false negative? Is there a chance that 9 days after OV the hormones still haven't kicked in? I probably know the answer to this question, but feeling a bit tired and wobbly this morning so can't think quite straight!
Knitterati is right about temping mimi. you take your temp every mornig while still in bed and just keep track. There;s a website called Fertiltiy Friend that you can enter figures into and it tells you when your likely OV date is (I do mine at home on graph paper, cos I'm a bit of a geek). In theory, your temp goes up just after you ovulate, which is no good really except that over a few months you can apparently see a pattern, and know when's a good time for some action!! I'm only on first month, but I def saw a rise a day or 2 after positive OV wee test thing. I know everyone says "just have sex every other day", but I'm afraid that just made me and DH really stressed (we're normally a once or twice a week couple!). With temping, you kind of know when to concetrate your, um, efforts!
Let us know how you get on with Johnny Depp x

yep, just got back from blood test, but nearly puked over the nurse after she took my bloods I was so embarrassed! I used to give blood on a frequent basis and never felt as sick as I did in the surgery just now...I'm just hoping it's a sign!
I think I confused the surgery staff because the doctor said that if I hadn't had AF in a weeks time and still BFNs then book in for a blood test, so I did that direct with reception, but when I got to the surgery today the nurse wasn't sure what she was testing for, so I had to explain all over again.
Anyway. The good news is that I should find out results on Tuesday and have booked in with doctor for Thursday to review results. (I'm secretly hoping that I'll have to cancel the appt because it will be a BFP and I'll just need to pick up a pregnancy pack from reception). I live in hope.

knitting I think 9 days past OV is a bit soon to get an accurate test. I'm not sure when the HcG hormones kick in, but I think there's more likelihood of both false +ives and -ives when you test early. So I'd suggest if you can wait until AF is due and then test, you'll then have much less doubt and worry in your mind.

I can certainly sympathise with the strain ttc puts on your relationship - DH and I had a big row the other weekend after all the BFNs he was just ready to accept it, and I felt he wasn't trying hard enough to conceive (cutting down alcohol, stress levels, getting fit etc). You just have to remember why you're trying to make a baby together, I guess :)

I know what you mean about a twice a week couple - so I think having an idea of when you're OV - even if it's just in a week or 2 week window, it means that dtd doesn't become too much of a chore! (I think DH would welcome dtd as a daily thing, but I'm not sure I could)!

Thanks for your reply Knitterati, I know it's a bit early really but I got myself in a bit of a state! Me and DH have had a good chat about it all now and I think we're both a lot happier. Good advice re remembering why you're here in the first place!
So, when would you test if you were me ? I have no idea when AF is due, so I was planning on waiting till 2 weeks after ovulation, which is tuesday. But then I'm going to a wedding on thursday, so it's probably sensible to wait till then, yes? Because of the
V funny about puking on nurse!! I've never felt that sick before. I did used to give blood regularly, then one day I was there, and I looked down and was just like "woah!!" ? like I hadn't realised what was going on until then! Bit weird I know ? I do keep meaning to go back and try again. But blood tests have never bothered me (yet!)
Any sign of AF yet? Fingers crossed for tuesday!

Hi Buggerlugs, glad you found your way here.
I think I may be out of the running, AF starting to make her presence felt... Kind of sad, but so relieved that the waiting is over. Sounds a bit odd, I know! Just hoping my cycles start to settle a bit more ? can't bear the idea of another 3-month waiting marathon. Good luck all, will check back to see how you all get on!

Any news Knitterati? Anyone?!

Hey knitting still no AF, blood test results are back but have been told by reception they can't interpret them and they need to have the Dr look over them - on Thursday! Gah! So close!

Nips have begun to get really quite sore! So hoping that's another sign!

Hey Buggerlugs I guess your Dr is following the Relax and it will happen method eh. Well it can't hurt, so enjoy your time off :)

I had my blood tests back and there's a hint that I could have PCOS (high testosterone levels + another hormone (can't remember which) so I'm going to the Dr today to discuss further.

Will let you know how I get on. Am slightly nervous, but know that time is on my side here. I hope.

knitting and mimi how are you getting on?

Hi everyone, I've been watching this thread, but didn't join as i became ridiculously supersticious and thought that if i spoke about what was happening i would jinx it-silly i know!
Anyway I normally had very regular cycles for past 5mths since coming off pill, but this month no AF and BFN on repeated tests for the past week.
BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS.....yesterday, 7 days late for AF, i got a faint positive line, and today BFP. Very excited. So keep your hopes up. Fingers crossed for you all.
I have no idea why it took a whole extra week for me to get a result..maybe i ovulated late, maybe its just a bit of a weedy egg, taking a while to get going, but really hoping that everything will go OK. xx

Congrats to you chocolate! really lovely to hear some positive news!

I have a hosp. appt for Monday to investigate possible PCOS in an ultrasound, but am still secretly hoping I'm preggers..despite it being quite unlikely being cd 50something and 4BFNs.

Hey girls, just checking in to see how you're doing, been off concentrating on "doing other things" to take my mind off annoying AF. Loads of congrats to Chocolate, lovely news. How's things Knitterati? AF turned up last monday and is STILL HERE, nine (is that right?!) days on. Dunno what's going on and am kind of tempted to start a whole new thread to discuss it . So, not really allowed on this thread, but thought I'd say hi anyway x