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Anyone else about to start IVF?

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gardenpixie · 04/03/2011 11:47

DH and I have our first IVF consultation in a couple of weeks and I just wondered if there was anyone out there who was in the same position?

We've had loads of tests done already so the Dr says we may well be able to start the treatment cycle sometime next month or early May.

We've been TTC #1 for 3yrs now and I am on cycle 5 of clomid so will continue with that until I start the IVF drugs. There are no obvious medical reasons why we haven't conceived naturally, just a case of unexplained infertility, I guess.

I know the odds of getting pg still aren't great but I am really excited about the fact that IVF even exists (isn't amazing what they can do?) and, although I am a bit apprehensive of everything it will involve, I am thrilled to be given the chance to see if it might work for us.

I would love to hear from anyone with any advice or who is in the same boat,

thanks for reading Grin

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CareBear1 · 03/06/2011 20:06

And to any other lurkers who haven't posted yet, join in! Not that I'm an MN obsessive Blush but i don't think anyone in my real life (including DH) wants to talk about this stuff as much as me and I'm finding it real therapy. x

Gardenpixie · 03/06/2011 20:26

Hello happy thanks for stopping by to share your experiences! Come back any time, your wisdom is most welcome Smile

bella30 Monday is so close! Hope you have a lovely weekend of relaxation before it all starts. And def go in for some sun action, it's a must! If possible also buy some new shoes as that is medically proven to help too Grin

care What a lovely place to live - your mini-bears will have lots of fun around there. Very best of luck tomorrow, have you thought any more about whether you might go for one or two? Xxx

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koolforcats · 03/06/2011 20:48

Hello lovelies! All ok here, I WILL catch up on posts at the weekend but just wanted to wave to you all and of course to wish care all the very very best tomorrow, tiddlybears ahoy! xx

CareBear1 · 03/06/2011 20:59

LOL tiddlybears. they really were tiddly eggs and look how far they've come! quite a lot further to go though eh. GP think we're going to listen the the advice when we get there and see how they've fared since thurs. If they're not doing quite so well or there's any other sign of something not great then might be tempted with two if it might up our chances. If I think seriously about whether I'd like to be growing 1 or 2 babies then I think I'd pick 1 because even 1 scares the bejeezuz out of me. But then I'd like more than 1 eventually and who knows if we'd even get this far again. DH would go with 2 if it was left to him, but then ....he's not the one carrying them is he! hmm. I think if its all looking good tomorrow then i would be slightly on the side of 1 with freezing the others for further goes if 1 doesn't stick. oh god, now i've confused myself, maybe we should just go for it and have as many as they'll put in!! I'd be so grateful for any little tiddlybears whatsoever.....what do you think you would do, seriously?

Happygomummy · 03/06/2011 21:00

Hello carebear and gardenpixie

Very happy to share my experience - not sure i have too many words of wisdom...

DH and I had been TTC just over a year. I was 35 at the time and beginning to panic - for some reason right from the start of TTC I had a bad feeling - suspect this was not helpful - a positive attitude probably can help somehow.

Anyway, tests showed nothing wrong with me and a marginal issue with DH sperm (abnormalities high I think) so we were classified as "unexplained infertility" and recommended ICSI. We were fortunate to be able to go private and we went to Lister in london.

I was incredibly lucky as I had no adverse reactions to drugs, follicles grew nicely and they harvested 11 eggs. 9 embryos were created of which 7 remained by time of transfer. We freaked out as we were hoping to get a call on day of transfer saying to hold off for blastocyst but no call came so we panicked that there were no decent embryos. However when we went in for the transfer there were 2 outstanding ones which were definitely much better than the rest so I had both transferred.

then i had the most stressful week ever at work (bitch boss from hell)
then i had a week's holiday in remote scotland (i'm scottish and love it!)
then i thought my period started on holiday and went onto a big downer
but i only had bleeding for a day (on DD for period, not when implantation bleeding expected)
then one 4 days later when it had not developed i did a test (in the cubicles of the loos in a campsite on a very wet and rainy day). i only did test as i wanted to take a migraine tablet and knew i couldn't take if pregnant. to my utter amazement i got a line! heart-stopping moment. i then had a 50m walk in the pouring rain back to tent to tell DH - i can almost remember it step by step!

anyway, had scan at 7 weeks at lister and showed that it was a singleton (phew, sort of). then another scan at 9 weeks - all well. then in March 2008 I had a wonderful amazing perfect little boy who is now 3.

i was hoping for a second and gearing myself up for another lot of regimented shagging, subsequent month-after-month disappointment, then IVF when we got the news (when DS was 8 months) that DH had rheumatoid arthritis and would have to go on a drug (methotrexate) which we were told we could not get pregnant on under any circumstances. bugger.

i wanted to go for IVF straightaway before i went back to work, DH, being the optimist wanted to try naturally for 6 months. went back to lister for consultation, got prescription for all drugs and was recommended to stop breatsfeeding.

I was on day 5 of period and about to start pill to regulate but DH pleaded to give it a go naturally. i gave in. i got pregnant first time trying!! I now have a second DS who is now nearly 2.

I feel that I am the most blessed, lucky person in the world. My DH is amazing and my two boys are, in a mum's eyes of course, spectacular. My mum died in an accident 10 years ago and part of me likes to think that she had a helping hand....though i know that sounds crazy.

anyway, that's my story. i think i have really wittered on so sorry.

i would have just loved to have been able to talk through my feelings like this at the time. We did tell close friends/family but no-one understands and sometimes i don't think there is a great deal of sympathy for infertility - people just do not understand the pain of a month after month of BFN. I am not a hugely open person (though I'm getting better) but online, where you are somewhat anonymous (though from the details i've posted above i could be outed perhaps?) it is slightly easier.

thank you for letting me share my memories.....

CareBear1 · 03/06/2011 21:18

Ah thanks so much for sharing Happy that is such a lovely success story, that is so what we need to hear at a time like this!!!! So good to hear that the ups and downs can turn out fabulously. I think those who've been through this deserve it so much more!! Smile

BondiBaby · 03/06/2011 22:55

Hi All,
thanks so much for the dancing and best wishes. SO much happening at the moment for all you ladies. Not able to single anyone out tonight other than to say happy as far as i am concerned whether you are a lurker or a contributer to this thread, the hope is that you get some additional support from each of us.

To give a quick debreif on how it went today for anyone who is interested. I was a bit nervous going in, waiting for an hour to be admitted wasnt great but after they hooked me up to the sedative I felt this sensation of the seditives working up my vein (felt ice cold). I looked up at the ceiling to see the panels moving and starting thinking woooooooww maaaannn look at the ceiling....was totally relaxed. Next minute, I am WIDE awake sat up and being wheeled out to see DH. I felt TOTALLY fine. SO much better than I had expected and not at all drowsy. A bit fuzzy but after a lovely Brew and a Biscuit I got dressed and headed home. I have been uncomfortable today that is true but i did have a mid afternoon snooze and took pain killers. Basically, ladies I just wanted you to know it wasn't anything to worry about in the end AND the drugs were pretty good too!

I got 10 eggs from EC so we'll see how we go tomorrow....here's hoping

Hope the sun is shinning where you are, London was glorious today. Lets all make sure we do something to make us smile this weekend!!

Gardenpixie · 03/06/2011 23:03

Wahay Bondi that is amazing, well done! Grin

Big dance coming up for tiddly bears and bondis xxx

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Teds77 · 04/06/2011 00:18

I should be in bed.

Bondi 10 eggs - awesome! Grin

care good luck for tomorrow. Whatever the decision, it will be the right one for you xx

Happy that's for de-lurking. You're 50m walk in the rain knowing that you were pg brought a little happy tear to my eye Smile

Night all!

CareBear1 · 04/06/2011 06:56

Yeh Bondi!!! Grin that's fantastic news, good work!

Gardenpixie · 04/06/2011 09:39

Morning all how are you doing? Hope you're all well.

Enormous good luck to care today, hope the tiddlers are well Grin will you freeze any that you don't transfer today?

Bondi how are you feeling today? Hope you are fully recovered and that you get good fertilisation news Grin

Thanks happy for your story, good to know that it can all be worth it!

Waves to everyone else!

No AF yet so am convinced that the synarel isn't working ... As I've said before, patience isn't my strong point! My arms have also been covered in a rash since Wednesday Hmm which is apparently a sign of being allergic to it. Wonder if I should call the nurses? Seriously thinking about abandonning this cycle and trying another on different down reg drugs as I feel dreadful and don't think I can even make it to my scan on Friday, let alone be told I have to carry on with them at this dose after that because I've not had AF Sad

Oh well, I shall try to pull my socks up and get on stuff today...

Ladies who have also taken down regs, have any of you had rashes?

Big Saturday morning Brew to everyone xxx

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CareBear1 · 04/06/2011 10:20

Didn't get any rashes, I would def call nurse and discuss. When were you expecting af, how many days late? How else do you,feel bad?

Gardenpixie · 04/06/2011 10:50

Hi care just tried calling but they aren't about to talk to until Monday! I feel really itchy and have a horrid mix of being agitated and tired at the same time Hmm I had moods swings and some agitation when I was on clomid but this is much worse. AF was due on Monday so am now 5 days late...

But more importantly, how are you? Have you had ET yet? Xxx

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BondiBaby · 04/06/2011 11:54

Garden Have you tried going for a long walk? I was 5 days late for this cycle too. All the anticipation and stress etc... a walk may helped bring AF along. Have you tried and meditation to relax your mind? You do sound quite unsettled. Even i lie down listening to some chill out music might help? Just a thought.....

Care thinking of you today and sending lots of energy your way.

News with me... we had a call this morning to say we have 8 embryos. DH took the call as I was too teriffied. I heard him say ''8? thats good isnt it'' and i have to confess, I just broke down in tears. I think it was the shock. I hadnt expected so many and the embryologist admited it was a above average number. She said they never get all the eggs to fertilise so 8 was a really excellent outcome. We will have transfer on Monday (subject to another review on Monday). I guess that final review will determine if we go to blastocyst. DH is really keen to get to this stage as he thinks it sounds cool (bless him). still feeling apprehensive but do feel we have got to stage 2 sucessfully which is VERY good news. Tummy still a tad tender this morning but much much better than yesterday. Sure it'll be fine come tomorrow. Still cant believe there are 8 little embryos with our names on them right now!

oh another thing you may be interested to know.. before we went in. they asked me to sign for possible ICIS. they said i was down for IVF but if they determined ICIS was better they wanted to change the approach. i am thinking that may have been dependant on DHs sperm count on the day (not been an issue to date but, you never know). Anyway, just giving you all as much info as I can that may ne useful

koolforcats · 04/06/2011 12:02

garden you poor thing, I didn't realise you were feeling so yucky Sad . Is there perhaps an on call registrar who might be able to advise you in the absence of nurses? I'm obvs a few weeks behind you so I'm not exactly up to speed on what's meant to happen when, but I wondered if one is definitely meant to have a period during your sniffing? I just dug out the guy's cycle guide thingy which I was given at the initial consultation (y'know the one with the timeline?) and it says 'Period may occur in next 2 weeks'. I kind of took that to mean it may or may not? Please ignore my witterings if they told you to definitely expect one though. The rash does sound a bit concerning. I seem to remember you saying you are allergic to quite a few things? I'm not in the least bit medically trained but I was wondering if you could take an anti-histamine just to controlmthe itchiness until you can speak to someone? I really feel for you, how incredibly frustrating - I wish I had better suggestions but feel a bit hopeless knowing what to suggest. It'd be a real PITA if you had to change down regs but remember we all agreed that this thing is infuriatingly all about perseverance. And one day, when you're cuddling your little pixie (aaah, typing that made me go a bit gooey!) it'll all be worth it.xx

What news care? Do keep us up to date with operation tiddly bear transfer! Smile

Bondi 10 itty bittys for you? Amazeballs! Great stuff Grin

koolforcats · 04/06/2011 12:05

[Bondi] x posts.....8! Yay! Really happy for you Grin

koolforcats · 04/06/2011 12:10

I was too excited and forgot to preview....I meant Bondi Blush

(I'm not anally retentive, honest....but I'm a teacher and a rather general mantra is "Make sure you check it before handing it in!" type comments!)

Gardenpixie · 04/06/2011 12:27

Bondi that is such good news! Really cheered me up - yay! Grin

Thanks for your thoughts and thanks kool too... Some people don't get AF while sniffing but if you dont get it before your first scan, they induce it and keep you on the down regs until the uterine lining is thin enough to start the stim drugs.

So far I have tried a five hour walk with the hound, going running, going to the gym, reiki, reflexology, meditation, yoga and hypnosis but nothings worked so far Sad Have also tried anti histamines for the rash and it does take the edge off so at least I can get some sleep. I think it doesn't mean that the drugs aren't working, just that they are not working as fast as i would like (grrrr must work on being more patient!) and on fri I will have been on them for 18 days and the only thing keeping me sane was the thought that I could start the stim drugs then but it doesn't look like I'll get to... And having talked about it with DH, if that's the case then we'll call it a day for this cycle and try again later in the year.

Anyway, sorry for being such a moany old pixie today. I think I'll go and have a cup of tea and find something trashy on telly to keep my mind off things!

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CareBear1 · 04/06/2011 14:50

Go mini Bondii!!! That's fab news well done hon! ooh they will be busily dividing as we type!

GP, so sorry you are feeling so Sad as you would consider stopping the whole thing - when you say agitated how do you mean exactly, low? restless? sending you some soothing whale sounds just for you for your next yoga / meditation.
And here's my favourite meditation from the book eatpraylove, from the balinese medicine man, you sit or lie still, and smile. sending you lots of massive hugs and Wine and [biscuits]. actually, you could always try a wine] ??!

Had ET today. It was a lot more unpleasant than i expected and was a bit in shock afterwards (like a tough smear but it did hurt) . Have been fighting some negativity since and just been relaxing since we got back. Weird and not sure why because it was good news. They transferred the best 1 (they recommended 1 in the end based on their single transfer policy) and we got to freeze the remaining 5. Guess what, they even did a scan photo for us! You know like real pregnant people get! we can see the tiddly bear as a round bean shape with the catheter thing next to it. the nurse said 'there's one for the album'. god i hope so!! so why the gloomy chops CB, not sure need to fight it off. off for a nice afternoon.

lots of love to you all. x x x

koolforcats · 04/06/2011 14:54

Aw, garden, you poor pixie. Here, have a Brew and a Biscuit

Please try not to think about calling it a day yet. As you said, it doesn't mean that the drugs aren't working. Maybe you're just waiting for me to catch you up Smile. Now I must also point out a fatal flaw in your long list of attempted solutions - no new shoes!

Hope you don't think I'm being flippant - I really really want it all to go smoothly for you. I just want to turn your Sad into a Smile.

I wonder how care is getting on?

koolforcats · 04/06/2011 15:01

Sorry care, I'm such a ditz today - just saw your post. It sounds as though it went really really well for you, I'm sorry it was a bit hurty, that's a bit unexpected but I hope you're not too tender now.

I think having a little dip in mood is completely normal - until now you've very actively been contribuing to the whole process (sniffing, injecting etc) and now I guess the active part is over it's almost an anti climax IYSWIM? I don't mean in terms of it not being exciting I just mean that you've done all you can and now have to wait. Brilliant news about freezing 5, wow! And it sounds like a good decision was made re transferring 1. I'm sure they do exactly what they think is best. Hope you're have a lovely, chilled afternoon Smile.

koolforcats · 04/06/2011 15:03

Ooh I meant to ask, when is testing day? Is it 11 days from today? Grin

Teds77 · 04/06/2011 17:43

Ooo happy meant to say 'thanks for de-lurking' Confused

care sorry that ET was a bit painful Sad relax, do nice things and I hope the gloom lifts. Am sending lots of positive sticky thoughts to your tiddly bear xxx

GP hope that you get a bit more reassurance on Monday. I think I remember you saying that the doctors had been worried how you might react to the drugs so it might just be a case of them reassessing on Monday. It was only about this time last week that care's drugs were being altered because the doctors didn't think she was responding so well and then look at the fabulous outcome. Stay hopeful and strong - I always think of this thread as 'your's' as you started it and it just wouldn't be right if there wasn't a pixie here x

Bondi so wonderful that you have 8 little bondis dividing away Smile do you know if they did ICSI or not?? Not that it matters now anyway Grin We've already signed the form - there was an almost comedy-sad moment at our appointment at Guys where the doctor looked utterly confused that we thought DH's sperm might actually reach my egg under, their own steam, in a petri dish.. poor DH, I think he was a little bruised at the doctor's opinion of his swimmers Hmm

Kool do you a rough start date for your down regs/sniffing yet?

Gardenpixie · 04/06/2011 17:56

Care sorry it was ouchier than you'd expected. Love the idea of the scan though - go tiddlybear! Nestle in!

Thank you for your whale song link - it was lovely! It also inspired me to buy a few more relaxation songs Smile

Kool I ^knew^ I'd forgotten something. It was the new shoes! How could I be so rubbish? Grin

So my itchy rash got so horrid - and spread to my back and tummy - that I phoned up a friend of ours who is an A&E consultant (obviously reluctant to call him before as he deals with properly injured people rather than just pixies having a hard time on down regs). Bless him he came over and was suitably sympathetic ... he said it's quite a bad allergic reaction to the down regs and that the reaction, not the drugs, could be causing the anxiety and general grrrrrrrrr.

He got me some prescription antihistamines and told me to skip my sniffer dose tonight, have a couple of glasses of wine (excellent doctor advice) and that the Wine with the antihisties will make sure I have a good sleep Smile He also suggested spreading my dose out so I take my second sniff a couple of hours after my first, at least for tomorrow, and then I should call the clinic first thing on Monday. He didn't really know if I could carry on with the cycle but said that I should ask about changing drugs as, although down regging isn't normally nice, I shouldn't be feeling this grotty.

So I think I might go and buy a nice booze treat for tonight (poss a half bottle just so I don't get carried away) and then see if there's anything good on telly.

Hope you all have lovely saturday evenings and sorry for being such bore today,

xxxxx

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Gardenpixie · 04/06/2011 17:57

Teds sorry, x-post. Thank you lovely Smile Hopefully I'll find some way around the drug nasties xx

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