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Not Ovulating

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OADCB · 06/02/2011 12:09

Think I have a 30 day cycle and on day 17.

Been using clearblue and no signs of Ovulating yet.

Is this normal? What if I don't?

Dragging nagging pain in one side of pelvis but that's quite common.

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OADCB · 06/02/2011 14:21

Bumping .

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GandalfyCarawak · 06/02/2011 14:25

I was ttc DC2 for 18m+ when I started using ovulation kits. Accoe=rding to them, I never, ever ovulated. Got into a tizz, thought there was something wrong, but it turns out the tests just weren't picking it up, because as I was getting neg results I must have been ovulation as I got pg.

hairylights · 06/02/2011 14:27

Day fourteen is average. Some people don't ovulate until much later in their cycle.

OADCB · 06/02/2011 14:33

Thanks Guys. Also can you read anything from the lines in the stick which you eject. One dark line- one light line.

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hairylights · 06/02/2011 18:31

No -that's just normal, happens for every stick with me (Clear blue monitor picks up ovulation regularly for me).

OADCB · 06/02/2011 18:40

Bugger. Was hoping it meant I'm close to Ovulating. Previously no light line. I need to stop obsessing and just SWI!

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hairylights · 06/02/2011 18:58

It's anxiety making isn't it?! You'll see a 'peak' just before ovulation (possibly for two or three days) then an egg symbol which means ovulation is imminent, then another Peak.

I was told to SWI from peak (or when you see Egg White Cervical Mucus) onwards as much as possible, although advice differs.

KnackeredCow · 06/02/2011 19:08

OADCB are you using a CBFM or a Clearblue Digital ovulation predictor?

You can tell a little bit from looking at the lines...

If you are using a CBFM I'll explain, but comment on the CB digital OPKs.

How the CBFM works:

The stick uses two assays, one for oestradiol and one for leuteinising hormone (LH). The assay for oestradiol is negative and therefore the line becomes fainter the more oestradiol is in your system. The LH assay is a positive one and therefore as LH levels rise, the line becomes darker.

When CBFM first asks you to POAS it measures your baseline levels. This should be when you have low oestradiol and low LH in your system. It "remembers" the intensity of the colours on the stick that it measures and compares all subsequent readings to this. At this early stage, the line closest to the wick on which you pee should be very faint or non-existent. This is the LH line. LH levels should be low at this early stage.

At the same time, the line furthest away from the end on which you pee should be quite dark. This will show that you have a low level of oestradiol in your system.

As your cycle progresses, oestradiol levels begin to rise. The line furthest away from the end on which you pee will become fainter. When the CBFM detects the intensity of colour has reduced (indicating a peak in oestradiol) a reading of "high" fertility is displayed by the monitor.

The peak in oestradiol levels trigger a rise and peak in LH levels. LH is the hormone that triggers ovulation. Over the next 1 - 5 days the line furthest away from the end you pee (oestradiol) will begin to darken as hormone levels reduce. The line closest to the end on which you pee will also begin to darken as LH surges. When the monitor detects this it is triggered to display peak. Ovulation follows 24 - 48 hours after the initial peak in LH.

So in summary, if you put the stick in front of you with the end on which you pee to the left then:

Start of cycle: left line faint, right line dark
Oestradiol peak: left line faint, right line faint
LH peak (immediately before ovulation): left line dark, right line dark
Aftr ovulation: left line faint, right line dark

HTH

The problem with the CBFM is that as it conares to baseline levels, it won't necessarily detect a peak in LH if your baseline LH levels are high (Which can be seen in some conditions such as PCOS).

The other thing is that some women have a very short LH surge, and the surge often occurs in the afternoon. It could be that the CBFM is missing it.

Obviously, if you are using the digital tests then ignore this post!

OADCB · 06/02/2011 19:19

I'm using the digital tests but wow that was informative. How much are the monitors? Worth getting or not?

If I'm not pregnant by April we need to stop TTC til nov because of academic commitments. I have a basal temp and charts to start with next month too.

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hairylights · 06/02/2011 19:26

I have found mine useful. Pregnant second month of trying first time round, first month of trying second time around.

KnackeredCow · 06/02/2011 19:28

PS If you have regular cycles it is indicative that you are likely to be ovulatory, but even ovulatory women don't always ovulate every single month.

Ovulation is roughly 12 - 16 days before your period. With a regular 30 day cycle this means on average (in an ovulatory woman) ovulation would occur between days 14 and 18. Those are however only averages and individuals can vary.

When a woman's period is delayed it is often because she has ovulated later than normal.

I have a pretty regular 30 day cycle and usually ovulate on day 17 (with a positive OPK on CD 16). However, one cycle where I was particularly stressed I ovulated on day 20. Predictably my period was 3 days late. The time between ovulation and your period is normally pretty fixed in an individual. The time between the start of your period and ovulation is more likely to vary. Perhaps you are going to have a slightly longer cycle this month? Please try not to fret. Smile

KnackeredCow · 06/02/2011 19:31

I think my monitor cost me around £60 from Amazon. They retail at around £100 in Boots. The sticks are £14 for 20 from Amazon, which after the first month, should be around two months' supply.

Yes, I think the CBFMs are worth the money. I am not pg yet (have unexplained subfertility) but at least I know I'm ovulating (confirmed through blood progesterone tests) so the CBFM puts me at ease each month that we've caught the appropriate window.

OADCB · 06/02/2011 19:44

Thanks everyone. We have only been trying since mid nov so will take more time to get to know cycles. Will have a go at charting and if no joy will get a fertility monitor in nov :-(

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OADCB · 06/02/2011 19:47

And any idea on the dragging nagging pain?

In nov I was in so much pain within same area I had coil out as an emergency case ( which was fine as booked for week after due to TTC) since then been niggling regularly.

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KnackeredCow · 06/02/2011 20:11

When do you get the pain?

I definitely get Mittelschmerz when I ovulate, which is a dull ache that becomes sharper. It lasts a few hours. It normally coincides with one of my ovaries being enlarged (DH is a doctor so pokes my abdomen at bit to confirm). I only get Mittleschmerz on one day of each cycle.

What you've got could be Mittleschmerz. What sort of coil did you have? The Mirena can inhibit ovulation, so Mittleschmerz would be less likely but not impossible if you stil had a Mirena in at the time. The standard coil does not inhibit ovulation so definitely could be Mittleschmerz.

If you're concerned, then do talk to your GP about the pain. I had a nagging pain in the right of my pelvis for about 3 years when I was a child. It turned out I had a grumbling appendix, which was subsequently removed!

hairylights · 06/02/2011 20:15

I get pain just before ovulation (same day?) - it tends to be a feeling as if I have a bruise one side, then, some months, I've had a stabbing pain for about three minutes (I've read that sometimes you can feel the moment of ovulation!).

OADCB · 06/02/2011 20:16

I have had both types of coil. Copper and mirena.

With both I have had an episode of major pain like something was going to burst. Left side- where I assume ovaries are. Last time (with mirena) doc poked me and I cried out. She then proceeded to removed coil.

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KnackeredCow · 06/02/2011 20:18

Did you speak to GP about it. What did she think it was?

OADCB · 06/02/2011 20:19

Actually when I found out at barely 4wks preg I was referred for suspected eptopic because of these pains.

Think I will make a note and go to docs.

Dragging, nagging alot of times. Random episodes of stabbing and can't bare being touched there.

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OADCB · 06/02/2011 20:20

The family planning doc said if coil removal didn't alleviate it maybe need a scan to see what's going on.

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OADCB · 06/02/2011 20:23

Feck- I have just remebered (I swear my memory is getting worse!)

A decade ago I had similar. Gynae consultant mentioned pcos but was sent away with a flea in ear as you are only young and not got regular boyfriend.

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KnackeredCow · 06/02/2011 20:26

Sounds sensible to go back to the GPs. Really unlikely to be ovulatory pain if you had it at 4wks pg. Ovulation during pregnancy would be very, very unusual.

I'm sure it's nothing to worry about, but perhaps worth getting it checked out if it's causing you so much discomfort.

Good luck!

OADCB · 06/02/2011 20:28

Thanks knackeredcow I will- seeing it in writing has made me think about it and realise I get it too often!

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OADCB · 07/02/2011 19:19

Went to see a doc today. Very dismissive but I requested scan to see what's happening.

Still no sign of Ovulating- 1 test stick left

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