Charter's Anonymous: Volume 5, those BFPs are ours!!

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Well here we are on volume 5!! Plenty of room for growing bumps and stashes of Thermometers and pee sticks!!

This thread WILL bring BFPs, everything crossed ladies apart from your legs!!

100% beautiful clear line on a First Response this morning ladies!

DH is now in the know, and is very excited, once he had got over his annoyance at being woken up early

congratulations Tory!

Fantastic news Tory, congratulations! xx

Hooray for tory! You got there much faster than me, I still don't have a stonking positive line yet... must have slower hcg production or something. Is steadily getting stronger tho.

Hope you get some more sleep soon jaggy!

Fingers crossed AF turns up soon for you ifatfirst

xx

Great news Tory - congratulations

Ladies sorry to crash your thread to ask questions but your reputation as the charting oracles of MN goes before you I'm afraid. My question is about my luteal phase. I OV on CD19 or 20 of a 30 day cycle. Is ten days long enough?

Thank you in advance.

I'm certainly no expert, but from what I've read amanda 10 days is about the minimum you could get away with. Is your cycle regular in that you ov pretty much the same time each month? Might be worth talking to your GP if it is. Having said that, I ov'd on 24 Jan, and got my first positive result (very faint) on 4 Feb, which is 10 days, with implantation spotting 2 days before that, so I guess it depends on how quickly the bean gets over to the uterus and implants?

HTH

i could take the lack of sleep if it was a happy toddler waking me up. he doesn't seem to know what he wants, so is a bit hard to settle. i did draw the line at getting the crayons out at 4am...

has been given antibiotics by the doctor today, hopefully it is actually a bacterial infection and not another virus so the medicine will sort him out.

Congrats Tory, I knew it looking at your chart a while ago!

Ladies, I am withdrawing from the thread.

I went to the docs this morning and she was lovely. I had a really good long talk with her about all sort of things going on in my life (and happening over the last year) and she thinks my conception problem is stress.

Her advice to me was:

• don't chart

She asked me why I did it (I said to find out when I ovulate) and she thinks I am a bit bonkers if I have regular cycles (I ovulate CD15-17 religiously), have charted a couple of times to confirm I ovulate and LP is ok. She thinks the pressure of doing this outweights the benefits (for me).

• have less sex

I described my SWI pattern and she thought a) we did it too much and could impact sperm quality b) as we were doing it primarily to baby make we were putting pressure on ourselves which adds to stress.

She didn't want to do the blood tests on me and says she is 99% sure there is nothing wrong homonally but will do them in a couple of months together with a sperm analysis for DH if I want and am still not pg. She also thought the pressure of going through these tests will add stress and will outweight the benefits of doing them just now.

• try and remove stress sources

Work/ moving home etc etc, some of which will naturally happen, others I will work on.

She pointed out that we concived over Xmas when DH and I were both on holiday (we both have stressful jobs, and very soon after we sold our house and moved which was a horribly stressful salem and very soon after a particularly horrible time DH had at work had ended)

I daren't tell her I also surf MN and google conception realted stuff for many many hours a week and I am sure if I told her that she would have told me to stop!

So doctors orders I am packing away my BBT thermometer and going to stop surfing (I may have to do a staged withdrawal from MN though).

I have learnt so much from you guys, this has been a great thread. Wishing you so much luck and many BFPS!! XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

raven goodbye and good luck - we will miss you but your reasoning sounds very sensible, maybe it just took an outsider who is not obsessed charting to point that out. Please do come back and share your BFP with us when you get it!

tory do I have to say congrats for every test well ok because I'm sure you're not tiring of hearing it - CONGRATS!!

jaggy sorry for lack of sleep, I can emphasise although DS sleeping much better now.

woo hoo super +ve OPK for me today. Glad DH and I finally managed to SWI this morning whilst DS was shoved in front of In the Night Garden! DH was hungover after his work trip last night and as you can imagine I was NOT impressed. Right, sperm meets egg plan means tonight and tomorrow for us too - FX!!

Wow Raven you sound very sensible and I'm really pleased you had a good meeting with your GP, she sounds great! Good luck with your new approach, hope it wins you your baby!

Great news Tory and also brilliant that your DH can now get excited with you! Here's to a boring and uneventful 8 months IYKWIM

Kaytee ha ha about the 2WT, on another thread I post on we refer to it as the 2WOOFL (2 weeks of obsessive Fing lunacy) so I refer to woofling a lot on there! I'm glad my DH has never come across my MN log on, he would think I am even more crazy than he already does!!

Jaggy I'm sending you deep sleep vibes (and your DS) and hope you can catch up soon ((hugs))

I knew I would struggle with cold turkey on MN!... Missing you all already! Just popped back to say thanks to terrys and truffkin.

I know the feedback was in essesnce - "relax and it will happen" (which is like a red rag to a TTCer!) but going to try to give it a go. Not easy though as already thinking... will I just temp tomorrow so I can get my FF crosshairs and then stop after that!?! I am 2DPO today, but going to try to resist!

Hope I don't offend anyone, I am not saying charting is a bad thing or detrimental - just for me at the moment.

raven I need to know more about the less sex thing... I'm worried OH and I have too much, we often do it more than once a day... do you think this is impacting sperm quality? ummm...

Good luck raven! Please come back and tell us once you've got your BFP. Of course you haven't offended anybody!

I have not been on MN as much this cycle as I think it is adding to the stress, trying to occupy my mind with other things instead.

I am going away this weekend for my birthday so I won't be around for a few days. By the time I come back I will either have a BFP or AF. Judging by the way I just yelled at DH for no reason I suspect it will be the latter!

Good luck Raven xxxx

Kateepie2 thanks, I do have a very regular cycle. 14 days must be about normal I guess so 10 is a bit short. Still don't know whether to worry, I guess time will tell, it will be a starting point if we have trouble. Followed by obsessing cold turkey as above!

Thanks for all the congrats everyone. How long does it take to sink in? I feel like I must be talking about someone else! Have just got home and dh has bought me some lovely flowers, so at least he is starting well!!

Kateepie I think you are a few days behind me anyway aren't you? I am 16dpo today, and today officially late, I had a relatively variable lp of 11-15 days so it was a bit hard to tell! So I am sure that line will be darker very soon!

Congratulations Tory! Sorry, I forget, is this your first pg? If so, enjoy it and indulge yourself!

Raven I think I know what you mean, it is hard not to obssess and being told stress is stopping you conceiving causes stress!!
Have you thought about withdrawing slowly rather than cold turkey and perhaps stopping temping once ov is confirmed?
I've thought about that cos the stress of the last few days pre af is not nice.
Or you could just go off you CM
It's all very well docs saying just swi every other day but when you have a toddler, a fulltime job and a partner wh works away, its not that easy!

My acupuncturist did say to make sure we were making love, not just swi and that can stop conception due to stress! Can't win!

Hi Tory I', 18dpo, not sure what usual lp is as I just started charting this month, but the previous 2 cycles since coming off the pill were 28 days, so 14-16 days lp I guess. I may just be producing hcg more slowly, I've heard some people do.

I think it will properly sink in to me when I have a bump!

How are you getting on mrsa?

Good luck to amanda

for me, not to me. Durr!

Hello everyone! Long time no speak. I have been ordered back to say hello by terrys

So, lots of new faces here, hello and welcome to you all!

tory congrats on your BFP and your rather lovely sounding DH

Amanda I noticed your question on LPs. If you ov on CD19-20 of a 30 day cycle then you have a 10-11 day LP which should be absolutely fine. Normal is 10-16 days. I have a 9-10 day LP and have conceived easily twice (getting to the other end though I am still waiting to achieve... NOT related to my LP though). Less than a 10 day LP CAN cause problems but is certainly not a reason to assume it will never happen. Lots of MNers who have LPs around 8, 9, 10 days and conceive so no reason to despair.

terrys looks like you are just coming into the interesting zone. The very best of luck to you.

battery how are you enjoying your new CBFM? Fab news that you and DP will be able to live in the same place in just a couple of months. I hope they fly by and he is then there to hold your hair during all the morning sickness that is hopefully coming your way!

MrsA I'm so sorry last month didn't happen for you, ((hugs))

mouse and If how are you both?

Much love, spilt xx

Hello

I have a charting question for you experts. I have only started charting this cycle and am on CD5, but my temp has been quite flat with a big spike one day. The spike coindiced with me having a drink the night before, but I also had a drink last night and there was no spike this morning. Have any of you experience of the impact to temp of alchohol?

Also I have been pretty much sleep deprived since I started thanks to DD (18moths) who suddenly developed sleep troubles, so a few of the mornings I have not had a very long block of sleep before temping at 6.30am. I know this can impact too - anyone have any idea how much?

Any ideas appreciated.

ThePippy yes both things can affect your temps. I never bother temping the morning after I've been drinking because the result is always skewed.

I do still temp if I have broken sleep as I find it throws things out less, but I make a note that that's what happened. I don't know what effect it would have if it was a regular occurrence.

Spilttgeteaagain thanks for the reassurance, I think it's probably nothing to worry about. Very sorry to hear you have MC.

Thanks again everyone.

Kateepie I am not sure it will sink in until I am in labour

MrsA yes this is our first, so I am now uber paranoid about anything/everything - what to do, what not to do.......

Thanks Amanda. I did tell FF to ignore the high reading as it was just too high. Problem is I tend to have a drink a bit too frequently at the moment (yeah I know I shouldn't) so maybe I will have to give it a break to get to know my cycle a bit better.