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Climate Change

Labour’s plans to build thousands of new homes

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dnac · 08/07/2024 22:57

Anyone else feeling dismayed at the plans announced today to build huge numbers of new homes on the “grey” belt? Why not just concrete over the UK? It’s not just the homes, it’s the infrastructure that will need to go with it that will almost certainly involve cutting down trees, spoiling natural habitats and losing more green space. Plus the boundary between grey and geeen belt will blur over time. Why can’t we put more effort into refurbishing existing properties (or just rebuilding on the same sites?). So much for refreshing, positive ideas from the new administration. Just more of the same ill thought out sound bites that make me despair for the future of the planet.

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justasking111 · 12/07/2024 00:13

Tryingtokeepgoing · 11/07/2024 23:00

Vertical farming might have a place in replacing veg / salad crops, but at the moment, and for the foreseeable future, it doesn’t make sense for arable . Wheat is currently at a 10 year high, but even if you take the current £260 odd a tonne, and manage to achieve a yield of 10 t per hectare, at £30 per tonne margin then you are looking at a tiny return on the £2m plus it costs to build a hectare of protected growing. We are miles away from that being commercially viable.

We're buying wheat at £168 a tonne was over £200 last year

Badbadbunny · 12/07/2024 09:38

BurntBroccoli · 11/07/2024 15:37

Plus wheat and rape every single year will have a ton of chemicals sprayed on it.
If the grass is planted up with different species of wildflowers, it will offer much more biodiversity.

We can't live on wildflowers for our food supplies!

BurntBroccoli · 12/07/2024 10:47

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Plus wheat and rape every single year will have a ton of chemicals sprayed on it.
If the grass is planted up with different species of wildflowers, it will offer much more biodiversity.

"We can't live on wildflowers for our food supplies!"

Of course not!
I'm not saying that at all. We need to invest into more modern techniques for farming (and stop eating so much meat!).
Vertical farming, as already mentioned, plus AgriPhotoVoltaics as someone else has already mentioned. This combines solar with traditional agri practices:

Holland is already making good use of this and is one of the world's largest exporters despite being a relatively tiny country.
BurntBroccoli · 12/07/2024 10:50

We also need to be using things like rooftops of buildings in urban centres to install solar panels.

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