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Year Round Nigel Slater discussion thread - Part 4

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RainbowZebraWarrior · 11/04/2026 18:58

Hello all and welcome to this lovely space for our continued chats.

A bit of background for anyone not familiar with this topic:

The Nigel Slater Christmas Chronicles readalong usually takes place here between November and February each year - the Christmas Chronicles being a book written by Nigel Slater full of winter recipes and anecdotes - It has been running for a few years, and the contributors collectively decided it would be nice to have it running all year round.

So here it is. It is a place to appreciate all things Nigel-esque. Think seasonal food and recipes, enjoyment of nature, gardening, appreciation of the weather, and sharing of news and small moments of joy. It's a calm, cosy space for gentle chat and merriment so pull up a chair, grab a drink and relax.

A very hearty welcome to friends new and old!

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RipplePlease · 01/06/2026 08:55

Morning all.
Feeling a bit low, DD left to go interrailing yesterday so no DCs in the house apart from the furry brown one.
I know she’ll have a great time but will miss her.
She and her friends arrived in Italy last night at 11:30pm and went straight out…exhausts me just thinking about it!

I loved The Split too and met Stephen Mangan (my second husband) last year at a book event. He was genuinely lovely, as I’d hoped!

Celiathebanshee · 01/06/2026 09:41

@RipplePlease I also love Mr Mangan and keep recommending 'the island' on bbc sounds to people - the premise is he wakes up on the desert island the morning after appearing on desert island discs and finds he's there with everybody else who has been cast away, with all their records and luxury items, all gone a bit lord of the flies. 15 minute episodes and really fun.
I'm also back to work today, and DD3 back to school for a fun physics revision session - and I'm back in my jeans although I am retaining a short sleeve (cannot guarantee I won't need a sock later). I had hoped to peg the washing out but the forecast is pretty grim.
I'm planning a few days in Amsterdam with DD3 after her exams - let's hope she is sweet and chatty as she can be, not the child I had yesterday who growled at me to stop asking stupid questions when I enquired whether she had had any lunch (they are a joy) - so if any of you know it well I would be very happy to hear your top tips. I have been, but only for half a day when I was just passing through, and that must be nearly 30 years ago. We've booked a bit last minute (Anne Frank house already fully booked, sadly) because we realised that with one of her sisters in Asia, the other in Africa and DH heading to the US for the world cup, we were going to feel a bit cheated if we stayed here!

RipplePlease · 01/06/2026 11:32

@Celiathebanshee
Oohh thank you for the recommendation of The Island, sounds great!
I often listen to bbc sounds, mainly drama, along with my audible books whilst walking the dog.
I also went to Amsterdam many years ago. It was as part of my Art History course. Unfortunately, the Van Gogh Gallery was closed but I think I can remember going to the Rijksmuseum…just worked it out, it was 37 years ago!
DD is currently at the Coliseum in hopefully bearable temperatures.

Bimblesalong · 01/06/2026 13:26

@piscofrisco , freshly washed and ironed tea towel?

Reading all else with interest - busy times with work and treatment visits here. Waving not drowning!

RainbowZebraWarrior · 01/06/2026 16:33

Hello all.

Sorry I have been AWOL for a couple of days. Many more hospital visits and more scans and tests with Dad. I'll do a separate post about this (good news we hope, fingers crossed!)

Gorgeous rose @MrsJLevinson and peonies @LillianGish I was going to cut my peonies and make a bouquet for my Mum yesterday, but ran out of steam. I now fear they may have been a bit battered by today's rain. I shall go out an inspect them shortly. I will try and take some pics of my emerging roses, too.

Counting down to the summer holidays here too @CrushingOnRubies 7 weeks, I think.

ahh I think I am going to end up missing The Sheep Detective at the cinema @piscofrisco I just cannot make it work timing-wise.

Sending love regarding the work and treatment balance @Bimblesalong my lovely

Also sending hugs to you @RipplePlease that must be a huge wrench!

Oh that sounds tough barely getting any time to yourself @leporello but yes to the summer holidays being on the horizon!

I get that about ATF @Comtesse regarding the lack of recipes. It's still a beautiful book, and maybe I need to revisit via audible, but interspersed with favourite recipes would have made it even better. Still waiting for that news of the new book release... Speaking of books, we have Val McDermid visiting one of our local bookshops this week. On her birthday no less. And in conversation with her great friend Nicola Sturgeon. I would love to have gone along, but can't make it.

My top tip for Amsterdam @Celiathebanshee is definitely book the Van Gogh museum. You must book ahead, but there are loads of slots, and they are very efficient entry proceds. The gift shop is immense and we spent over €350! Check which works are currently there as they do loan some out at times. DD was gutted as Skeleton of a skull was on loan to Oslo when we were there. There are also some free art galleries / installations around the VG museum. We loved Moco which is literally next door. There's also the Banksy museum (although we ran out of time for this, it gets fab reviews) Also, hop on the train and visit - or even stay as we did - in Zaandam if you can. Only 15 mins from Amsterdam and a lovely place. A bit quieter than Amsterdam itself. Lovely, quirky hotels including this one.

www.inntelhotels.nl/amsterdamzaandam/en

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RainbowZebraWarrior · 01/06/2026 17:47

Please skip / ignore if you don't want to read about medical episodes relating to a parent, however, my reason for posting is that it could be informative and possibly sight-saving if anyone ever encounters similar symptoms.

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My Dad has presented for the past 20 days with severe muscle pain, exhaustion, blinding headaches, eye sensitivity, dizziness, vomiting, dull jaw pain and significant weight loss (largely due to only having eaten one meal in said 20 days) His CRP levels were off the scale at 136 and rising - anything above 10 is considered high if you know anything about inflammation - He has also slept for full days to the point of barely being able to wake him.

The hospital terrified him by convincing him that the only possible reason for such high inflammation was seriously advanced and / or secondary disease. They were thorough, but also, I think, a little over zealous. I appreciate that it's a tricky balancing act.

I kept asking about a possible serious infection or autoimmune disease as an answer to the inflammation.

As I have previously said, he's had a brain scan and CT. He was told these were clear. I had to take him back today for 'more tests and another scan' Now, the problem here is that he doesn't like to be accompanied. He's also rather deaf. Me? I think four ears are better than two, and I absorb the detail. I am also a ferocious advocate. Anyway, I waited in the hospital car park today for 3 and a half hours for him to come out with news. He eventually emerged saying he hadn't had the scan, but had more bloods and had been referred to see to see a Neurologist tomorrow for another brain scan and biopsies. He couldn't understand this as he was told his brain scan at the weekend was clear. He assumed they had had a further look in more detail.

With his permission, I went through his medical record and discharge notes. I noted he's been referred to Rheumatology tomorrow not Neurology.

The hospital did start him on 12 steroid tablets a day two days ago as a precaution. He feels better already and they said today that the bloods shower his CRP levels are finally falling.

In short, this appears to be Giant Cell Ateritis. An auto immune disease whereby the arteries in the temples become inflamed as the body attacks them. The biopsy tomorrow is not to look for tumours, but to confirm this condition. It is treatable. In the first instance, with steroids, and then longer term, with biologicals. This is something I know plenty about, from my own experience of having been treated with both.

One more day of his severe symptoms without steroids and he may have lost his sight due to the severe pressure building up in his temporal arteries.

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martha79 · 01/06/2026 18:49

Evening

Gosh, your poor dad @RainbowZebraWarrior, but glad to hear it's treatable.

@Celiathebanshee I'd forgotten about 'The Island', that was fun.

I don't think I have any Amsterdam advice not yet mentioned - also feel like I've been recently when it was in fact 2016.

Been an OK day back at work and it's been raining a bit, so much cooler. Had my first counselling appointment this afternoon which was... a lot, but I think she's very good.

Only vaguely Nigelly bit of the day is that I've got some very nice raspberries at the moment!

petitpasta · 01/06/2026 23:12

I was also a fan of 'The Split'!

I had the first of two interviews this week today and I was offered the job this evening. I still want the other job, so I am trying to stall accepting this job until I know the outcome of Friday's interview.

It doesn't mean that I will be on garden leave over the summer and will have a small (but useful nonetheless) redundancy payment. Can't decide between new sofas or a river cruise! Choices, choices!

EasterlyDirection · 01/06/2026 23:32

Well done @petitpasta hope you hear from the other one soon.

@RainbowZebraWarrior your poor Dad, he's lucky he has you to look put for him. Have he and your mum set up lasting powers of attorney? I am acting for my parents now, only for finances at the moment but medical professionals definitely take me more seriously / tell me more when I say I've got them.

We found a showing of The Christophers at a local independent cinema and went at the weekend. I really enjoyed it, thought the two leads were excellent and loved the visuals. DH wasn't so keen but it's not really his type of film, Marvel etc are more his cup of tea.

Other than that I have been spending a lot of time at the allotment, here are my California poppies self seeded from last year

Year Round Nigel Slater discussion thread - Part 4
Confusedmeanderings · 02/06/2026 01:36

Wow @RainbowZebraWarrior your Dad is going through a lot at the moment. I hope things improve for him.

Well done @petitpasta on getting the first job. Fingers crossed for the second!

@EasterlyDirection what lovely poppies!

Markknopflersheadband · 02/06/2026 03:55

What an ordeal your dad has gone through @RainbowZebraWarrior I hope he starts to improve now. It sounds like you are being a wonderful support and advocate for him. Don't forget to look after you too!
Can I admit that I gave away my Thousand Feasts book? I found it was almost Too Nigel, if that's possible! Some recipes might have helped break it up a bit. DH and I did get quite a lot of amusement reading bits out in our most pretentious voices! I left it in our phone box library so hopefully someone else will be enjoying it. I get lots of interesting books from there which I wouldn't think of trying otherwise, most recently a brilliant ghost story called Dark Matter, set in 1930s on a scientific expedition in the Arctic. So atmospheric and not a book I would normally read, but as it was free it was even more enjoyable!
On my break on night shift listening to heavy rain outside. So pleased it's not so hot now. I was very grumpy all last week! I used to love the heat but with hindsight that was when I was single and child free with no responsibilities, and could just lie about in the sun enjoying it. Those days are long gone!

martha79 · 02/06/2026 04:09

Waves at @Markknopflersheadband on the nightshift. I'm awake after weird and disturbing dreams, and the rain sounds seem to have given way to the dawn chorus here.

I haven't got a physical copy of A Thousand Feasts but did enjoy listening to it as a bit of "lovely background Nigel".

Congratulations on the job offer @petitpasta - keeping fingers crossed for the second one.

EasterlyDirection · 02/06/2026 07:09

@martha79 same re A Thousand Fesats, I listened to it and found it very enjoyable that way. Hope you got some sleep, you were awake in the small hours.

We had several inches of rain last night, I was in the kitchen in the evening with the patio doors wide open listening to the cool loveliness of it, then again with the window open in bed.

@RipplePlease I feel a bit odd when both my DCs are away, it’s rare as DS went to uni and came back, then DD went and both are homebodies who don’t go away with friends much just the odd night wehn both have been away so far. I’d love to go interrailing again.

leporello · 02/06/2026 07:33

Adding my congrats on the job offer @petitpastaand hoping everything works out the way you want.

What a scary time for your dad and your family @RainbowZebraWarrior, great news that the condition has been identified and is treatable.

My Amsterdam experience is even older but my chief advice would be to stay far away from the railway station 😄. Not a cheering environment in 1989, of course it might have changed by now...

Thunderstorm forecast here, for the very hour I will be walking from work to a pre-op assessment because lo the end of the dodgy gallbladder is finally nigh. Booked in for Saturday, can't wait (weirdly).

RainbowZebraWarrior · 02/06/2026 07:44

Morning all.

The hospital we are at today is at least close to DDs school as it's our little local one. Yesterday was quite the scarmble getting her to school and Dad to his appointment at the big Northumberland hospital on time. There is only me to look after myself, DD and Mum and Dad. I have no partner or siblings. It is what it is. Today is going to be tricky timing wise, but I can always whizz for DD then come back for Dad.

Pleased you also enjoyed The Christopher's @EasterlyDirection and yes, the POA is the very next thing on my list for both my Dad and Mum.

Sorry I haven't really taken in much of whats being discussed, so sorry if I've missed owt. I did like "Almost Too Nigel" (ATN) for ATF. He sure lives in a totally different galaxy to me that's for sure!

Oh, my experience from Amsterdam as detailed yesterday was this time last year BTW so pretty recent.

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petitpasta · 02/06/2026 08:02

@RainbowZebraWarrior I missed your post about your dad. I'm sorry he is going through this and, as others have said, he's lucky he has you to help him navigate this.

@Markknopflersheadband Dark Matter was a book club read a few years ago. It's definitely got an unsettling feel to it. I loved the fact that you weren't quite sure whether it was supernatural or descent into madness. A book I remember even though I read it possibly 10 years ago.

RainbowZebraWarrior · 02/06/2026 08:10

petitpasta · 02/06/2026 08:02

@RainbowZebraWarrior I missed your post about your dad. I'm sorry he is going through this and, as others have said, he's lucky he has you to help him navigate this.

@Markknopflersheadband Dark Matter was a book club read a few years ago. It's definitely got an unsettling feel to it. I loved the fact that you weren't quite sure whether it was supernatural or descent into madness. A book I remember even though I read it possibly 10 years ago.

I think I also missed your post about a job offer. Well done, but also fingers crossed for the other one!

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RipplePlease · 02/06/2026 08:49

@EasterlyDirection
I went interrailing when I was 22 with my then boyfriend. I loved it!
Not sure if I’d do it now…

RipplePlease · 02/06/2026 08:50

Luckily took this photo of my 2 peonies before the downpour!

Year Round Nigel Slater discussion thread - Part 4
Bimblesalong · 02/06/2026 08:55

Lovely flowers @RipplePlease Fingers crossed for everyone’s with the rain due. My rose arch is just bursting and the roses along the front of the house are in full swing. It’s a beautiful time of year.

congrats, @petitpasta , hope the one you really want isn’t long in responding.

Amsterdam - go to see Rembrandt’s House, so atmospheric.

EasterlyDirection · 02/06/2026 09:11

RipplePlease · 02/06/2026 08:49

@EasterlyDirection
I went interrailing when I was 22 with my then boyfriend. I loved it!
Not sure if I’d do it now…

I went with a friend when I was about 22 too, we did Germany and Scandinavia, it was fabulous. If I did it now it would be sleeper trains, hotels, a much more deluxe experience. I follow a FB group for midlife interrail people and do like the idea a lot. DH not so much though. Last year I had to travel to Newcastle, York and Edinburgh all for short visits, all by myself and in the space of about 6 weeks (we live in the SE) and I really enjoyed all the train travel, I used an app to get cheap first class upgrades and it was lovely. But then it can be hellish as I found last week.

martha79 · 02/06/2026 09:29

I've never done actual interrailing but did an amazing trip one summer - it was my friend's 30th birthday and she was living in Switzerland but had a birthday trip to Sorrento. Two of us flew from UK to Rome (extremely cheap Easyjet at the time) then got the train down to Sorrento - I remember it cost us 19 euros each and took forever, was boiling hot but otherwise comfy! We had a long weekend in Sorrento including trips to Amalfi and Pompeii, then train back to Naples. From which the two of us went to Milan for a day/ night, then to Basel by sleeper (where birthday friend was back home and we spent another couple of days with her)... then a day in Prague and I think another sleeper across to Krakow for a week. Other than the showers/ toilets on the sleeper trains it was fantastic. I believe I saw a tiny bit of Germany when I went to the loo in the middle of the night at some point, but have never been otherwise!

LillianGish · 02/06/2026 09:43

I must confess, I absolutely love ATF. The chapters are short and you can open it at any point and immediately get a sense of what it is to be completely and utterly Nigel and at the same time realise that this is a completely unattainable state, no matter how many Trudon candles you light. His calm, ordered, tastefully styled and accessorised life is so far removed from the chaos of family life with demanding kids and ageing parents and yet there is a calm simplicity underlying it all that feels tantalisingly attainable if only we could just carve out a few moments - collecting sea glass on a deserted beach, growing peonies, picking the first salad leaves from the garden, a picnic in the shade of a cathedral or a choral concert inside one. That is what this thread is all about. I have just been reading the Packing a Suitcase chapter to DH who is packing for his World Cup trip LA and laughing at a tracksuit so smart you can wear it for breakfast or for a drink at the smartest hotel bar and Underwear? A pair to wear, a pair for spare and one for the wash. I do however wish DH could be the guy who can pack for a long-haul journey, with nothing taken unnecessarily and nothing forgotten, in a matter of minutes - it is taking him several days, with much putting stuff in and taking stuff out and last minute laundry, not to mention the ensuing chaos in the bedroom while this process takes place.

Celiathebanshee · 02/06/2026 10:03

@LillianGish my DH is also heading to the states for the football, but he's much more the type (after 30 years of travelling every week) to throw a few pairs of pants and a toothbrush into a bag the morning he is leaving! And I'm not sure he has any clothes as smart as Nigel in a tracksuit (really? I cannot imagine it).
Congrats on the job offer @petitpasta , even if it isn't the one you want it is always good to be wanted
@RainbowZebraWarrior hope dad starts to feel better soon - he's lucky to have you, I think. I've just been chasing up my referral for shoulder surgery - the consultant at the time said it would be 'a matter of weeks' and even then I thought huh but you don't control your own diary do you. I rang today having heard nothing for 3 weeks and I appear to have been forgotten about - no record of said referral in the system - so it's a good job I did - with all the stories about waiting lists, somebody less impatient than me might have waited a really long time before following up.
I quite fancy mid-life inter railing (and if anybody is keen, they are having a sale today, I just got the email!). I don't want to stay in hostels with young backpackers but would enjoy the travel time. We went to Berlin by overnight train last year and had a ball (but zero sleep).
Pretty grey and damp here but no actual rain forecast. Have not risked pegging out though,

piscofrisco · 02/06/2026 11:16

I loved Dark Matter @Markknopflersheadbandand also recommend her other book that’s set on an Everest expedition but for the life of me I can’t remember what it’s called!

Glad your dad is getting answers and more that he has such a strong advocate in you @RZW.

good luck for the gallbladder @LillianGish

Excellent news on the job offer @petitpastathats a weight off-and if you get the other one-even better!!

I went interrailing twice. Once on my own and once with a boyfriend. Loved it. Would go again like a shot! My DD is off to Taiwan for a month in three weeks. I’m always nervous about it. I’ve just about got used to her being in Bristol. Taiwan feels scary to me as it’s so far. But she is so excited and it’s such a great thing to do.

rain rain overnight. Much needed but feels weird to have to put wellies and Mac back on after so long.

Im in something of a quandary. I’ve been offered a job. It would be working for a friend, distantly-pretty much self managed, setting up new care services. 20 grand more than I make now, plus a car and I can do quite a bit from home. So an end to the hour and 45 min journey to work and ticks all boxes. Except that I Love the farm so very much and it would be so horrible to leave it.
I have to let them know today and I can’t remotely decide what to do :(