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Year Round Nigel Slater discussion thread - Part 4

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RainbowZebraWarrior · 11/04/2026 18:58

Hello all and welcome to this lovely space for our continued chats.

A bit of background for anyone not familiar with this topic:

The Nigel Slater Christmas Chronicles readalong usually takes place here between November and February each year - the Christmas Chronicles being a book written by Nigel Slater full of winter recipes and anecdotes - It has been running for a few years, and the contributors collectively decided it would be nice to have it running all year round.

So here it is. It is a place to appreciate all things Nigel-esque. Think seasonal food and recipes, enjoyment of nature, gardening, appreciation of the weather, and sharing of news and small moments of joy. It's a calm, cosy space for gentle chat and merriment so pull up a chair, grab a drink and relax.

A very hearty welcome to friends new and old!

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martha79 · 14/05/2026 08:32

Aww, I think the swimming cap is very smart @RipplePlease

Cuddles to all the poorly doggles.

I think we have the AI 'receptionist' on the phone for the GP, but I always use the online contact form as they seem to get back quickly and so far with the right thing (whether that's an appointment, text asking for more info, phone call, fit note etc). I'm not the biggest fan of phone calls and can see me getting in a tangle with an automated bot thingy.

I bought new sandals the other week but I've only worn them once. Would very much like it to warm up a bit.

Today is work and getting the house ready for my dad's visit - I've been awake since 5am and have just got the spare room ready for me.. I'm quite tempted to go and have a nap in there now!

RainbowZebraWarrior · 14/05/2026 08:44

@RipplePlease I also meant to mention your friend with fibro. Finding the right meds is often a massive challenge as you (IME) end up having to choose between something that helps but gives you other side effects, or something stronger which then means you can't drive. There's so much out there thats also contraindicated with other meds and conditions that they are often also ruled out. Most meds are ruled out for me, or I find them so goddam awful that I just say Forget It!!

What I would say (having been part of fibro / chronic pain groups and specialist charity groups for years) is that fibro rarely presents on its own. There's usually somwthing else at play. Around 50% of people I know who were diagnosed initially with fibro, then found out years later that it was in fact something else. Often thyroid related despite having been 'checked before and told all ok' One of my good friends is now in pretty decent health after finally being diagnosed and medicated for her 'real' issue. This is after years and years.

It doesn't help that fibro is a diagnosis given when medics aren't necessarily sure what else it could be. It's all still rather vague. It's hard to keep fighting when you are utterly exhausted and feeling at rock bottom, but I have always believed in second opinions, asking questions and pushing for other tests and answers.

Miranda Hart's book 'I haven't been entirely honest with you' is worth a read if you think your friend may be interested. Miranda spent a decade of her life very poorly and in bed most of the time. She finally found out she had ME caused by an undiagnosed episode of Lyme disease earlier in life. Some of her 'Treasures' that she describes in the book (coping mechanisms) are actually really helpful.

I spent two years myself between 49 and 51 on the sofa (other than driving DD to school) and I do still have to spend a lot of time resting (I have to lie down between activities for 15 mins) but I finally worked out what did and didnt help for me and now enjoy life. I do run out of spoons at 6pm every day so cannot do evening activities, but I am living my most active life in six years. Pacing and diet are big ones for me. The biggest one though is focusing on myself. I mean really focusing on myself. Such a difference.

Once you a. Know and b. Fully understand exactly what you are dealing with, then you can work out what does and doesn't work for you. You can accept, adapt and adjust your life in a way that works for you. It often takes a lot of trial and error, some soul searching and some real radical changes, but it's so important to focus on yourself. I found my biggest barrier and the thing that exhausted me most was Other People Not Understanding. I bet if you asked your friend that, she would agree (it's often discussed in chronic pain / illness forums and webinars)

Knowing you aren't alone and joining a support group can be really helpful. I joined an EDS one when I was first diagnosed and it really helped me. There are always one or two folk who turn it into a possing competition, but I find that's more with the meet ups. At least online you can dip in an out.

Worth checking out this organisarion:

https://www.fmauk.org/contactsmenu/supportgroups

Sorry that ended up being rather long, but it's something I am passionate about and have thrown myself into researching for six years now.

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https://www.fmauk.org/contactsmenu/supportgroups

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piscofrisco · 14/05/2026 09:18

Hot next week according to the plumber who has must been, and taken all the air out of the system and fiddled about. We currently have one working radiator. He says he needs his ‘old man’ to come and look at the rest of it as he couldn’t fathom it.

Im currently sitting wearing a big coat, over three layers and a Dog who is at least warm .

smahsing doggy swim hat @RipplePlease. I sympathise with him. I get ear infections every time I swim which is so annoying as I absolutely love swimming. I’ve tried it all and need really to get some proper ear plugs made, but at £200 a go that’s not happening any time soon.

martha79 · 14/05/2026 09:33

I must give Miranda's book another go @RainbowZebraWarrior - I had the audiobook and despite really liking her generally, her narration annoyed me (but I think that may have been my state of mind at the time).

Someone shared this on another thread about chronic pain earlier and I thought it was really interesting - https://www.plymouthhospitals.nhs.uk/body-reprogramming - lots of similarities with what I've had from the LC clinic, but a slightly different angle. I loved the bit about making sure you have plenty of variety and don't do any one thing for too long.

RipplePlease · 14/05/2026 09:57

Thank you very much @RainbowZebraWarrior for taking the time to write that post, very kind of you.
Yes, she is already on high dose high blood pressure meds and has experienced lots of negative side effects from meds that she’s been able to trial.
Her partner has health issues of his own so is supportive and understanding of her needs and limitations.
She gets upset about what’s happening to her, but I think she’s learning how to manage it and, as you say, “pacing” is key. Eg she spent a day in London recently and knew her body would react badly to the exertion, so she earmarked the following day as a massive rest day.

EphemeraleEudemonia · 14/05/2026 10:13

Hard hail storms with intermittent sun here yesterday.
Am in the same position @Celiathebanshee; young veg are either thoroughly hardened off, or about to be dead.
@Bimblesalong Special provision resources that work well are something else and need all the good things that can be said about them, said loudly.
Sounds like a lovely birthday present, and yes, very well organized.
Lovely photo's from Flora day @CrushingOnRubies particularly love the one's of the children just being, regardless of camera's, and the keeping of traditions. Glad it stayed fine for you all, running red dyed headdresses on white costumes, sounds like a horror show in the making.
@piscofrisco I'm very exhausted, but doing OK considering, thank you.
Glad to hear doggo is home, and hope each day gets a little easier for all. (you probably know but expanding foam tape round the bottom of the cone, reduces scraped human skin if he needs lots of carrying) Poor sausage and you, are really going through it.
Hope the log burner promises came good and you get properly repaired soon.
Really shouldn't laugh but your Mum's determination and pre planning to use that cool box and feed you all is tickling me. I can hear her portioning that MN chicken out for the week, from here.
@petitpasta Love your watercolor and hope you continue with them when you get home. @martha79 Sorry you're suffering and hope some of it resolves soon. You definitely should get the Christmas present watercolors out!
I reckon if you post the chips photo three times in succession, any visitation will end up being Jack Monroe banging on about livening cheap food up with food coloring and it counting as a vegetable! 😂
@MrsJLevinson Hope puss is on the mend.
@Fillybuster glad you found thread.. No such thing as too much chutney here.
@RipplePlease Ripple dog looks like a bundle of fun. (apart from his NVN ideas on what's edible) I think the swim cap will be the equivalent of the cone of shame, but he looks robust enough to tolerate other canines sniggering.
Sorry about your friend No one plans for it to happen to them, but yes, half of coming to terms with all disabling conditions, is trying to accept the limitations, and learning the art of pacing.
Congratulations on your wedding anniversary, @leporello, Glad it went well after all.
@RainbowZebraWarrior Fabulous finding uranium glass, well done to DD.
I use shortwave UV light to tell which side of float glass was formed on molten tin, and which in air. (knowing matters if you're fusing, slumping, tempering, or bending it) Depending on what frequency her torch is, she might like to try turning off the lights, and rolling her UV light across the edge of a glass pane. If it's the right frequency, the tin side will emit a slight milky glow; air side won’t.
Finally managed to get to listen to you on the radio. You definitely need to get into podcasting.🙂
Belle looks gorgeous as always, (and no, not very gun dog like) despite Mr Darcy's oh so innocent 'pick me, i am the best' pose.
@EasterlyDirection me too, went into hospital minus laptop, and then wasn't allowed it and can't catch up. Doing nothing would definitely change my life, but I doubt I'd manage it for long, the desire to observe, draw, and make, is my excuse for why I'm behind on everything else.
@LillianGish That wisteria is lovely. Sympathies to your mum. A lot of the cost cutting automation measures feel like just shutting out whole sections of society.
I can't use half the automated systems the NHS are using. Internet is slow operating on a dongle, and so many of the patient touch screens GP and hospital use, are out of reach for wheelchair users. Their answer is I should supply a carer, mine is that of all institutions, they should be able to cater for independent disabled and older people properly.

Celiathebanshee · 14/05/2026 13:40

I quite like our GPs AI booking thing - I type everything into the top box then put 'see above' in response to all its stupid follow-up questions. BUT (i) it also closes outside office hours - why?? - and also closes when they get a bit full, so that's pretty useless. And (ii) I have never tried it when I've wanted a same-day appointment and I don't know how good it would be for that.
Sunny here today (crazy weather, will it really be 28 degrees next week?) so I am about to venture out and see if the cucumbers survived. Had my art class this morning and spent it drawing (trying to draw) citrus fruits.
Your Jack Monroe comment had me genuinely LOLing, @EphemeraleEudemonia
I saw Miranda when she was on the promo tour for that book @RainbowZebraWarrior and although I had always been a fan I found her a bit annoying and the book has sat unread in the pile ever since. (To be fair that doesn't really cast much shade on the book as it is an excessively large pile and lots of perfectly good books languish in it).
I think @RipplePlease 's DDog might set a trend in that very stylish swim cap!

RainbowZebraWarrior · 14/05/2026 14:52

Also LOLing at the Jack Monroe comment! 😁

Thanks for your expert knowledge as always @EphemeraleEudemonia

Miranda does seem to have become a bit annoying since she got married lately and I must admit I didn't enjoy the audiobook all that much either. It's just always good to read that other folk have been in similar situations like not being able to get up off the floor / out of bed and I perhaps deliberately search that out.

28 degrees? Next week? Wow! I mean we won't get that here, but I'll happily put in a sneaky request for 18/20 ish for my birthday thank you please.

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piscofrisco · 14/05/2026 15:19

What’s happened to Jack Monroe anyway? Was there some sort of fraud committed or something. I’ve heard anything much about Jack for years….
Doggle and I have just finished Legends (thing about under cover customs officers) It was very good!

Celiathebanshee · 14/05/2026 15:31

piscofrisco · 14/05/2026 15:19

What’s happened to Jack Monroe anyway? Was there some sort of fraud committed or something. I’ve heard anything much about Jack for years….
Doggle and I have just finished Legends (thing about under cover customs officers) It was very good!

I watched episode 1 last night! Looks like it will be excellent

martha79 · 14/05/2026 15:57

I'm enjoying Legends too!

Weren't there some claims that Jack Monroe was never as poor as she claimed to be, and a lot of the things she wrote about didn't add up? Not sure what happened with it all or if she just went quiet.

RainbowZebraWarrior · 14/05/2026 16:02

piscofrisco · 14/05/2026 15:19

What’s happened to Jack Monroe anyway? Was there some sort of fraud committed or something. I’ve heard anything much about Jack for years….
Doggle and I have just finished Legends (thing about under cover customs officers) It was very good!

There were some allegations from her Patreon clients of rewards(?) not materialising and therefore accusations of her being a grifter. Plus some potentially dangerous advice in her most recent book and her possibly exaggerating her own circumstances. Loads of drama ensued on X / Twitter which led to her deleting her account. She also seemingly had a major spat with Jamie Oliver who she apparently accused of stealing a programme she was going to make. She calls him 'That Man' As a result, it appears she's not really been booked on any TV shows in a while.

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RainbowZebraWarrior · 14/05/2026 18:58

Cross posts @martha79 about JM.

@RipplePleaseI am always happy to pass my phone number on via DM if you think it could be useful for your friend to chat / text with someone who is experiencing similar health issues (I am also on high dose BP meds)

Same goes for anyone else who would like to chat 😊

Swung by Tynemouth beach after dropping DD at school this morning. It looked glorious, unfortunately I find it hard to access these days, so I plumped for my usual Whitley spot. Also called by NT property Delaval Hall to see how the laburnum arch was doing. Coming along nicely. Another week I reckon, and it will be at it's peak. Rhododendrons also looking good.

Year Round Nigel Slater discussion thread - Part 4
Year Round Nigel Slater discussion thread - Part 4
Year Round Nigel Slater discussion thread - Part 4
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Markknopflersheadband · 14/05/2026 19:03

Ooh we started Legends as well yesterday, really liked the first episode. It's rare for DH and I to agree on a series to watch!
Cold here this evening. We have had such a nasty wind all week. My lovely much missed grandmother used to call it a 'treacherous wind', or in really severe weather a 'poisonous wind', both of which are phrases I now use all the time and they never fail to make me smile. Fingers crossed for some nice warm weather next week.
I'm off to London for a NVN girly weekend this weekend, it's looking a bit rainy. Also we seem to have planned our weekend to coincide with the FA Cup final and some big protests, but never mind. Despite rain, footballers and protesters I can't wait! We catch up once a year and always have the best time.
Sympathy for the boiler situation @piscofrisco we used to have the worst boiler in our old house and I felt as though the plumber was one of the family, I had to call him out so often. Hope it gets fixed soon.

martha79 · 14/05/2026 19:11

Oh yes, I'd forgotten about the Patreon side of it all!

sueelleker · 14/05/2026 19:31

Markknopflersheadband · 14/05/2026 19:03

Ooh we started Legends as well yesterday, really liked the first episode. It's rare for DH and I to agree on a series to watch!
Cold here this evening. We have had such a nasty wind all week. My lovely much missed grandmother used to call it a 'treacherous wind', or in really severe weather a 'poisonous wind', both of which are phrases I now use all the time and they never fail to make me smile. Fingers crossed for some nice warm weather next week.
I'm off to London for a NVN girly weekend this weekend, it's looking a bit rainy. Also we seem to have planned our weekend to coincide with the FA Cup final and some big protests, but never mind. Despite rain, footballers and protesters I can't wait! We catch up once a year and always have the best time.
Sympathy for the boiler situation @piscofrisco we used to have the worst boiler in our old house and I felt as though the plumber was one of the family, I had to call him out so often. Hope it gets fixed soon.

Mum used to call it a "lazy" wind. It goes through you, instead of round.

RainbowZebraWarrior · 14/05/2026 20:52

My Nanna called annoying winds 'chewy winds' (as in, it made her feel all chewed up, I assume)

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CrushingOnRubies · 14/05/2026 21:28

South west weather watch. It’s bitterly cold winds still, torrential rain showers, with hail this morning. 7degrees at 5pm this afternoon. It should be 12-15 degrees at this time of year!!

piscofrisco · 15/05/2026 06:48

Chewy winds is a great term, I’m stealing it.
DH is wfh today and Dog nursing, so back to work for me. Clover had her Lambs! Can’t wait to see them (and sad I missed it).
It’s currently 5 degrees and raining and I’ve no idea where my waterproof trews are.
have a good Friday all x

martha79 · 15/05/2026 07:10

Oh well done Clover, at last!

I've had quite a restless night due to being in the spare room - I always give visitors my bed as it's much more comfy. It's amazing how different all the sounds are at the other side of the house, plus it's much lighter with a blind instead of blackout curtains. Still, I've woken up to this nice sky and a background noise of combined gentle purring and snoring from all other current residents 😄

Off to the city farm today I think - they also had new lambs yesterday.

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leporello · 15/05/2026 07:30

Wind not quite chewy yet but the air has a definite sharp edge this morning. Gentle hugs to all with chronic health conditions, it must feel relentless 💐.

I LOVE the doggy swimming cap, adorable, needs a wheely trolley and big black handbag to accessorise 😂.

Dd1 made us a brilliant tofu, aubergine and pepper stew last night - like mine, her cooking is hit and miss, but this was a big hit.

I remember having a lot of initial admiration for Jack Monroe which slowly ebbed away over the years. She's a bit of a social media cautionary tale, I think.

RainbowZebraWarrior · 15/05/2026 07:36

Hurrah for Clover! (Pics of lambs would be a great Friday treat @piscofrisco )

Chilly but sunny, here. A 20mph NNW wind, so will hopefully be sheltered from some of that by the cliffs on the beach if start at the north end today.

Just been eyeing uo the Martha Brook stationery advent calendar. (Well, as much as one can when the design is yet to be revealed) It's on pre sale and usually sells out in 24 hrs. Was going to treat myself instead of beauty advents that dont get used but have decided upon reflection to buy a new diary and some of my favourite pens etc over the coming months. I will wrap and number them and put them all in a lovely advent box I have from last year. At least that way, I will get stuff I actually want.

Right. School run > beach > book sewing lesson > label honey for the shop > sow painted sage seeds before it's too late.

Happy friday all!

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MrsJLevinson · 15/05/2026 07:43

Morning all,

Just catching up….very grey here at the moment and I got caught in hail/sleet between visits yesterday!

About to enjoy a cup of tea before getting properly started with work, I’ve booked an admin day today so hopefully it will be a bit slower paced.

@EphemeraleEudemoniasenior cat is much more himself, slowly putting weight on and still needs a few teeth pulled. As soon as his weight is more acceptable we will book that in for him.

MrsJLevinson · 15/05/2026 07:48

I’m trying to work out how to post a photo of my cut glass creation….it says it is the wrong file when I choose it from my photo library and taking a picture of it via the app - it isn’t seeming to show up!

Maybe that’s for the best as it looks like something a toddler has done 😂 despite wanting to be artistic and creative my execution always falls short!

RipplePlease · 15/05/2026 07:48

@RainbowZebraWarrior
Thank you for your offer of a phone chat with my friend. I’m seeing her next week so will ask.

@Markknopflersheadband
Also watching, and loving, Legends here. Anyone watching The Testaments?

Our recent daytime temperature has been 9C so I mustn’t complain!
Taking DD17 to get her veeeery long hair cut today in preparation for her prom next week.
Her dress arrived a few days ago. It’s floor length, baby pink, beautiful. When I asked her which shoes she’ll be wearing, the answer was White Stilettos….are these truly back in fashion?!

I’m aware I’ve not done/offered anything remotely Nigel since joining this thread but I’m aiming to do some baking this weekend and we’re visiting somewhere beautiful this weekend so will get on it!

PS Daisies on the lawn…MIL and DH are strongly opposed to them but I think they look wonderful. Thinking Nigel would agree with me?