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rainbows40 · 17/11/2025 11:26

My Primary school age child would like a pc. He will use it for gaming primarily.
His gaming buddies have told him anything under £1000 is not worth it, but I suspect they're part right but mainly being ridiculous.
My budget is under 300. Is this doable? I don't want it to be laggy and it must be accessible with an Xbox.

Any ideas?

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VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 17/11/2025 11:48

rainbows40 · 17/11/2025 11:26

My Primary school age child would like a pc. He will use it for gaming primarily.
His gaming buddies have told him anything under £1000 is not worth it, but I suspect they're part right but mainly being ridiculous.
My budget is under 300. Is this doable? I don't want it to be laggy and it must be accessible with an Xbox.

Any ideas?

What sort of games would he be playing?

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 17/11/2025 12:08

Basically, you're going to struggle to get any kind of PC for under £300. His friends are talking rubbish that you need to spend a grand, but you going to be looking at about £600 when you include all the peripherals like a monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers, controller etc.

For gaming you're looking at 2 factors, screen resolution and frame rate. Resolution is how many pixels are on the screen. You're going to be looking for 1080p, and 60fps. His friends will tell him that it's pointless going for anything below 4k and 120fps, but again, that's rubbish. It's barely noticeable and won't affect how he can play the game. So for the monitor, don't bother spending extra money on a 4k one, you don't need it.

For the PC itself, there's 4 components you need to focus on.
The CPU - I'm running an i5-8400k at the moment, and it's showing its age a bit. I'd be looking at an i5-10000 series for this.

RAM (Random access memory) - You want at least 16GB. 8GB will do in a pinch, and it's really easy to upgrade so you can always buy another 8GB stick later on.

Graphics card - This is the really important one. Unfortunately it's also the most expensive one. I'd look for a GTX 4060. Or you can go for one that's a bit older but more powerful, like the 3070.

Finally, the hard drive. Makes sure it's a Solid State Disk (SSD) rather than a regular hard drive.

If you're lucky, you may be able to find a PC with all that, and the monitor etc, for around £600, that'll play pretty much all current games at 1080p.

Good luck!

Whichone2024 · 17/11/2025 12:13

Could you find something refurbished?
the only person I knew who got one for that amount got it from a relative who fixed it up then sold it too her parents

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 17/11/2025 12:35

I've heard good things about this lot - and the specs on this machine aren't bad -

https://www.stonerefurb.co.uk/stone-core-2025-gaming-pc

Bear in mind, that's just the machine itself, you still need a monitor, mouse, keyboard etc.

Stone Core Gaming PC - Intel Core i5-8400 - 16GB RAM - 500GB SSD - RTX 3050

https://www.stonerefurb.co.uk/stone-core-2025-gaming-pc

WeepingAngelInTheTardis · 17/11/2025 12:37

For £300 you wont be able to get fuck all.
His friends are correct at least £900 minimum. Ds14 had one for £900 and it runs well but not everything.
I have my own that cost £3,000 that ds14 sometimes needs to use as not all games run on his smoothly but mine was that much as its all set so I can upgrade the parts over the years, wont need upgrading for at least 6-7 years.

rainbows40 · 17/11/2025 18:11

Amazing thanks guys

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rainbows40 · 17/11/2025 18:11

WeepingAngelInTheTardis · 17/11/2025 12:37

For £300 you wont be able to get fuck all.
His friends are correct at least £900 minimum. Ds14 had one for £900 and it runs well but not everything.
I have my own that cost £3,000 that ds14 sometimes needs to use as not all games run on his smoothly but mine was that much as its all set so I can upgrade the parts over the years, wont need upgrading for at least 6-7 years.

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Jeesh, that's no good. Thanks though.

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rainbows40 · 17/11/2025 18:12

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 17/11/2025 12:08

Basically, you're going to struggle to get any kind of PC for under £300. His friends are talking rubbish that you need to spend a grand, but you going to be looking at about £600 when you include all the peripherals like a monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers, controller etc.

For gaming you're looking at 2 factors, screen resolution and frame rate. Resolution is how many pixels are on the screen. You're going to be looking for 1080p, and 60fps. His friends will tell him that it's pointless going for anything below 4k and 120fps, but again, that's rubbish. It's barely noticeable and won't affect how he can play the game. So for the monitor, don't bother spending extra money on a 4k one, you don't need it.

For the PC itself, there's 4 components you need to focus on.
The CPU - I'm running an i5-8400k at the moment, and it's showing its age a bit. I'd be looking at an i5-10000 series for this.

RAM (Random access memory) - You want at least 16GB. 8GB will do in a pinch, and it's really easy to upgrade so you can always buy another 8GB stick later on.

Graphics card - This is the really important one. Unfortunately it's also the most expensive one. I'd look for a GTX 4060. Or you can go for one that's a bit older but more powerful, like the 3070.

Finally, the hard drive. Makes sure it's a Solid State Disk (SSD) rather than a regular hard drive.

If you're lucky, you may be able to find a PC with all that, and the monitor etc, for around £600, that'll play pretty much all current games at 1080p.

Good luck!

Thank you for this! Such alot of good information. I will have a look and see what I can find. May have to go halves with his dad. Thanks again!

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rainbows40 · 17/11/2025 18:15

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 17/11/2025 12:35

I've heard good things about this lot - and the specs on this machine aren't bad -

https://www.stonerefurb.co.uk/stone-core-2025-gaming-pc

Bear in mind, that's just the machine itself, you still need a monitor, mouse, keyboard etc.

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So if I was to get this, would any monitor do? Or would I need this to be good spec also?

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VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 17/11/2025 18:41

rainbows40 · 17/11/2025 18:15

So if I was to get this, would any monitor do? Or would I need this to be good spec also?

No, you wouldn't need to go for a particularly good monitor.

I mentioned in a previous comment that with that computer, you'll be looking to hit 60fps and 1080p

What that means is 60 frames per second (so the number of pictures the monitor shows per second.) When you're watching TV or a film you're usually only seeing 24fps. That's fine when you're watching a film, but when you're actually controlling what's happening, 24fps feels very sluggish. 60fps is usually considered the sweet spot.

1080p is the screen resolution, basically how detailed things look. Very old TVs showed 480p, current HD ones are 1080p, and more expensive 4k ones are 2160p. The higher the screen resolution, the more power the computer needs to have in order to churn out those 60fps.

Pretty much every monitor on the market these days will do 1080p 60fps. The most basic ones will be about £60, but I'd look at something that's about £80 - £90, just so it's a bit higher quality.

If your budget will stretch to it, you can look at a monitor that does 1440p (halfway between HD and 4K). The computer I linked should be able to handle that. A monitor that does that will be about £120 though, and all you're doing is making the games slightly prettier, it won't affect the gameplay experience at all, so don't stretch to it if you can't afford it.

Whichone2024 · 17/11/2025 18:46

I think it’s a good idea to go halves with his dad!

rainbows40 · 17/11/2025 19:12

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 17/11/2025 18:41

No, you wouldn't need to go for a particularly good monitor.

I mentioned in a previous comment that with that computer, you'll be looking to hit 60fps and 1080p

What that means is 60 frames per second (so the number of pictures the monitor shows per second.) When you're watching TV or a film you're usually only seeing 24fps. That's fine when you're watching a film, but when you're actually controlling what's happening, 24fps feels very sluggish. 60fps is usually considered the sweet spot.

1080p is the screen resolution, basically how detailed things look. Very old TVs showed 480p, current HD ones are 1080p, and more expensive 4k ones are 2160p. The higher the screen resolution, the more power the computer needs to have in order to churn out those 60fps.

Pretty much every monitor on the market these days will do 1080p 60fps. The most basic ones will be about £60, but I'd look at something that's about £80 - £90, just so it's a bit higher quality.

If your budget will stretch to it, you can look at a monitor that does 1440p (halfway between HD and 4K). The computer I linked should be able to handle that. A monitor that does that will be about £120 though, and all you're doing is making the games slightly prettier, it won't affect the gameplay experience at all, so don't stretch to it if you can't afford it.

You really know your stuff, I'm impressed. Thanks for all that. I now know what I'm looking for instead of fumbling about in the dark!
Cheers guys!

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slipperypenguin · 17/11/2025 21:22

Also use chat gpt, we just bought one here too and found a couple that seemed to be okay within price range and chat got helped us compare then in really understandable terms and advised on the best depending on our priority

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 18/11/2025 01:19

rainbows40 · 17/11/2025 19:12

You really know your stuff, I'm impressed. Thanks for all that. I now know what I'm looking for instead of fumbling about in the dark!
Cheers guys!

No worries. Shout if you need a sense check on anything before buying!

lxn889121 · 18/11/2025 03:11

300 is only do-able either with second hand components/refurb, or if you already have stuff (monitor, speakers, mouse etc.) And even then it would be a challenge these days.

I would talk with your son about what games he plays, because that does impact things a lot. If he is only playing basic games, you don't need too much. But if he and his friends are playing more modern/demanding titles? that is hard.

Also - maybe take a look at handheld gaming PCs, they weren't a thing when I was a kid, but I would have loved one. They can range in price, but most can play (almost) all pc games to some degree, and as a child being able to play them on my bed, in the car, etc. would have been great.

rainbows40 · 18/11/2025 09:51

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 18/11/2025 01:19

No worries. Shout if you need a sense check on anything before buying!

I have purchased the one in your link, along with the mouse, keyboard and headset. I had to buy it asap as I felt that was such a good price for what it does.l and didn't want it being sold out.
Thanks again.

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VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 18/11/2025 10:57

rainbows40 · 18/11/2025 09:51

I have purchased the one in your link, along with the mouse, keyboard and headset. I had to buy it asap as I felt that was such a good price for what it does.l and didn't want it being sold out.
Thanks again.

Yay!

One last bit of advice. If he's looking to play with his friends, then there's a good chance a lot of those games are free, like Fortnite (they make their money selling ways to make your character unique, rather than charging for the game itself)

If he does want any games that do cost money to buy though, it's worth waiting to buy them until just after Christmas. Steam, which is the most common online place to buy games, does a massive New Year's sale, usually starts around the 28th December.

rainbows40 · 18/11/2025 16:32

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 18/11/2025 10:57

Yay!

One last bit of advice. If he's looking to play with his friends, then there's a good chance a lot of those games are free, like Fortnite (they make their money selling ways to make your character unique, rather than charging for the game itself)

If he does want any games that do cost money to buy though, it's worth waiting to buy them until just after Christmas. Steam, which is the most common online place to buy games, does a massive New Year's sale, usually starts around the 28th December.

Thankfully he is quite happy with Fortnite and Roblox for now
But, I will bear that in mind
Thanks.

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LeftBoobGoneRogue · 18/11/2025 21:56

@rainbows40
Why would you encourage your primary school child to be gaming? It’s asking for trouble. So many people get addicted to gaming. My nephews both got very poor exam results because they spent too much time gaming when they should have been revising.
We had a complete ban on gaming in our house for this reason.
Also there are potential safety risks to your child from online gaming.

puffylovett · 18/11/2025 22:04

If you know anybody tech savvy it’s worth chatting to them. My eldest son recently sourced all the parts and built a gaming pc for my youngest by himself. Only cost us about £700 but he knew exactly what he was looking for and did all the graft of putting it together.

rainbows40 · 24/11/2025 17:12

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 18/11/2025 01:19

No worries. Shout if you need a sense check on anything before buying!

Omg I need help 🥴
I have the pc. I have it all wired up and plugged in. Now what? I am a complete idiot, I have no idea what to do.

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VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 24/11/2025 17:48

Ok, I'm going to assume you're telling the truth when you say "complete idiot",😂 so we'll start with the very basics. Have you managed to turn it on? There should be a button on the front or the top of the tower, if you push it, what happens?

If something comes up on the screen, let me know what it is, if the answer is absolutely nothing, then there's a few troubleshooting steps we can do.

rainbows40 · 24/11/2025 22:34

Sorry I didn't get back to you.
I have been able to turn it on. Took me a while to find out how to turn the monitor on too but managed
The pc wants me to download/upload/install a driver. I have no idea what that is. However I may have sussed out where to find one. But I need the pc to connect to the WiFi to be able to download it from a website first.
Do you think I can get it to link to the WiFi?? 😩
So as with any normal device you can go to WiFi and select what internet you want to connect to. With this pc there isn't even that option - it just isn't there when I click on 'connrct to WiFi'. It comes up with other options but nothing remotely to do with the WiFi. It does, however have greyed out words saying to connect to the ethernet, but I absolutely refuse to believe this pc which boasts built in "WiFi" in its mark uk description together with it being 2025 and not 2002, that I need to use a lead to connect the router which is downstairs. There has to be another way.
I will call the suppliers tomorrow and see if they can help me. Although I may wait until weds when I have the day off and then they can walk me through it step by step. Meanwhile middle son (teenager) thinks he will be able to sort it out by himself tomorrow. I hope so because my brain is fried.

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rainbows40 · 25/11/2025 10:30

I've ordered a WiFi dongle. Who knew... lol

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