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Ideas for an old-fashioned Irish Christmas

105 replies

AVeryIrishChristmas · 11/11/2024 17:53

We are hosting MIL for Christmas this year.
She has dementia and is very confused/forgetful, but she loves talking about and remembering her childhood.

Unfortunately she can’t remember enough to tell me herself, but I’d love to include some little touches at Christmas that might remind her of her childhood celebrations.

She grew up in rural north-west Ireland in the 1940s.

Does anyone have any ideas of things like food, drink, music, decorations, games etc that might spark a recollection?

OP posts:
mathanxiety · 11/11/2024 20:29

For.decoration - mum doesn't recall a Christmas tree until about the late 50s.

They decorated with holly sprigs above the windows and tucked in at the top of the pictures - one of the Sacred Heart and one of the Pope, which after rural electrification had a permanent little light glowing under it.

They also made simple paper decorations, and always had a Nativity/ crib and on Christmas Eve set a candle in each window to light the way for the holy family passing by.

Countmeout · 11/11/2024 20:48

Yes @mathanxiety I don't even remember a turkey in the 60’s.
My mother also came from a very small farm, a few cows, chickens, a pig or 2. Very little probably bought in. Made their own butter etc. Only water from the well. No electric. No gas even from a bottle at that stage. Some of these descriptions of a Christmas dinner must have been very well off.
And to make matters worse no drink no dancing (Presbyterian) 😬

SingingSands · 11/11/2024 20:57

OP, I think it's a lovely thing you're doing for your MIL. You're being so kind.

I can't think of anything other than paper chains and bringing in some holly.

I hope you give your MIL a lovely Christmas, bless you.

Carriemac · 11/11/2024 21:08

What a lovely idea OP you are great daughter in law.

Can I suggest the 'faith of our fathers 'album of old Irish hymns my dad loves it ( he's 89)

open.spotify.com/album/6vwC2oWlqXLmIjGil16vJc?si=cisw2ZzsRrqRSV1Smd91RQ

Maverick66 · 11/11/2024 21:19

Mass
Crib
Stocking as in an pair of socks or tights with orange in it and a few coins like 50 p talc like Lily if the valley maybe bar of soap .
Tinsel on tree. And paper decorations. Christmas cards on a string across fire breast wall.
Val Doonican .....probably can get him on You Tube to show on tv
Val Doonican show was a big part in my mother's Christmas.
Agree with turf fire/turf candle
Christmas dinner would not have been like it is now . I would say a simple dinner of turkey and ham with stuffing and Brussels sprouts and carrots and potatoes. Huge knob of butter with the spuds.
Christmas pudding rather than fresh cream desserts.
It would most likely have been a glass of milk served with dinner or dilute juice.
Then perhaps a small sherry or snowball drink after dinner.

OdileO · 11/11/2024 21:22

My parents a bit younger but agree with ham, turkey and bread sauce. We always have cranberry sauce too. We quite often have soda bread with butter and smoked salmon earlier in the day. When my mam makes the Christmas cake everyone has to ‘turn’ it, I.e. give it a stir. A single candle in the window to light the path home (this is what I was told, someone upthread mentioned letting Mary and Joseph in). Jameson and 7Up! Of course mass 😅

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 11/11/2024 21:26

This is a lovely thread.
My grandad was from Ireland and my English Nana really embraced all things Irish and I have really fond memories of her being in charge of the fire when we went on holiday there.
I've just bought the peat burner as I think it will bring back some lovely memories for her as my grandad died last year.

ForPearlViper · 11/11/2024 22:14

There's a book called Forgotten Skills of Cooking by Darina Allen, of Ballymaloe fame. She has lots of old recipes in there from her childhood in Ireland with stories about them. My very senior Irish mum has enoyed dipping into it and might give you ideas for food.

That being said, Ireland, like any country is diverse and what my 90 year old Mum remembers from her area may not match what your Mum remembers. There's a thread on Reddit called Ask Ireland where the people are very helpful and might give more specific replies if you tell them exactly what where your Mum is from.

Wayk · 11/11/2024 22:29

I am irish. Traditions would be turkey, ham and spiced beef. Mass Xmas eve, usually mid night which can also be watched on TV. Decorations up including ceiling. Going to Carol singing service. Buy hollybough paper. For new year beating bread off the next door neighbours door to keep poverty away.

vladimirVsvolodymr · 11/11/2024 22:36

HiGunny · 11/11/2024 19:04

I'm Irish. We would always have turkey and ham, roast potatoes, stuffing and brussel sprouts on Christmas Day. I think goose was more common back in the day - my granny always mentioned it. Pigs in blanket are not an Irish thing, we would have sausage meat stuffing instead. Dessert would be Christmas pudding or sherry trifle. My town granny would also have a glass of sherry on Christmas Day and country granny would have a glass of whiskey 😂
And midnight mass was always the highlight for many to show off their finery!

This reminds me of the city mouse and the country mouse nursery rhyme 😂😂😂
No offence intended and apologies if it comes across that way ☺️

Cantdecidewhere · 11/11/2024 22:45

There's an author called Alice Taylor who writes about growing up in Ireland and I think she has a book about an Irish Christmas. I read them years ago and my parents agreed with how accurate it all was. She's a great storyteller, so worth a read, or maybe read some aloud to your relative?

OneAvidPanda · 11/11/2024 22:58

Bread sauce?! Certainly not in our Mayo household.

My dad was born in 1943. He said they sometimes had goose at Christmas? Though it's turkey now, and ham if there's a big group of us. No pigs in blankets, I didn't try these till I moved to England.

You need mash AND roasties, sausage stuffing, veg in our house was boiled only. Has anyone mentioned sherry trifle? Only ate these at Christmas.

Dad says the biggest treat for them at Christmas was having lemonade as kids, but has to be Irish red lemonade. Am sure red lemonade would be nostalgic for your MIL too.

LuluBlakey1 · 11/11/2024 23:05

Marblesbackagain · 11/11/2024 19:05

Any chance you can get your hands on some turf? Or a turf scented candle?

Do you mean peat?

HiGunny · 11/11/2024 23:08

@vladimirVsvolodymr 😂 no offence taken 😁

Crispynoodle · 11/11/2024 23:13

Consider a hot bush? Hot whisky made from bushmills whiskey (north west) hot water a lemon slice studded with cloves. Or a hot port they do that here. We will have traditional turkey and ham with a layer of stuffing in between then all the trimmings. We will 💯 have a peat fire too

Crispynoodle · 11/11/2024 23:16

Livelaughlurgy · 11/11/2024 19:28

I think mass would be lovely, bread sauce, putting Jesus in the crib on Christmas Eve, lighting a candle to let Mary and Joseph know they're welcome. (I'm sorry if this is all English stuff too) Make the pudding or cake now and are you supposed to bless it? Or everyone make a wish? Isn't that a thing?

It's called stir up Sunday!

Crispynoodle · 11/11/2024 23:18

Wendysfriend · 11/11/2024 20:01

I'm Irish back in the 40s, 50s and 60s the food was quite different compared to other years.

The one thing that hasn't changed is that we have a turkey and ham, stuffing can add sausage meat if preferred, Brussel sprouts, roast and mash potatoes, carrots. Obviously with different preferences you can leave out or add in what you like for vegetables.

Cabbage isn't always served, in early years it was, also some people had kale instead of cabbage and the leftovers were made into colcannon.

Now a days we have a variety of vegetables and some roasted instead of boiling.

Starters were served, usually soup, prawn cocktail or melon, this was I think from late 60s early 70s (my own memories) don't think there were starters before that

Dessert was Christmas pudding (the fruit one) trifle (it does have custard) later years minced pies, people made all these themselves.

Even with changing foods and different likes and dislikes and people eat all different things now, the one thing an Irish person will tell you is that we love our turkey and ham, stuffing, mash and roast potatoes and gravy.

Decorations, everyone went over the top, mixed coloured lights on the tree, shiny decorations, tinsel everywhere, walls, ceiling, around picture frames, it wasn't Christmas unless you were sitting down and a decoration fell down on your head ..

Music, from what I remember and I'm old as fuck was Christmas songs from pop singers, I don't ever recall sitting listening to hymns, I'm sure there were some that did. Abba was always playing in our house and maybe a bit of Cliff and bay city rollers.

It's tradition in most houses to have a drink Christmas morning, whiskey, port, sherry, now a days whatever you fancy whether it's alcohol or soft drink.

Daniel O'Donnell music from Donegal

healthybychristmas · 11/11/2024 23:21

There's a huge difference between the 1940s and the 1960s! It's very likely that her family was very poor and Christmas presents would have been few and far between.

I would focus on the music and old songs.

I wouldn't focus on hymns or mass if she is a lapsed Catholic. Every lapsed Catholic I know would hate that!

Orders76 · 11/11/2024 23:21

No starters
Boiled ham and a roast turkey with the stuffing inside
Sprouts, carrots and every type of spud imaginable. Gravy, mustard
Whiskey and red lemonade
Dessert instead of starters, for us that was a very alcoholy aged pudding, Christmas cake with marzipan, icing and ribbons or sherry trifle.
Much later in 70s/80s, Watching Rte and BBC in the evening as we were beside the border.

Orders76 · 11/11/2024 23:25

And turkey curry, sandwiches or stuffing sandwiches on Stephen's day.

Garman · 11/11/2024 23:27

LuluBlakey1 · 11/11/2024 23:05

Do you mean peat?

Peat is turf, turf is peat

853ax · 11/11/2024 23:27

Big red Christmas candle in the window & holly decorations
Christmas or porter cake
Whiskey

TheYearOfSmallThings · 11/11/2024 23:28

Get her a Christmas Ireland's Own, an Old Moore's Almanac, a box of Black Magic, and get someone to smoke a Romeo Y Julieta in the background mixed with the smell of ham in a pressure cooker.

Vissi · 11/11/2024 23:28

Decorhate · 11/11/2024 19:19

i think that’s accurate enough as far as it goes, but many people were poor. My mother’s (born 1946) Christmas childhoods were very plain and poor. No tree, obviously, holly and Ivy behind the pictures to decorate, some simple paper chains, the ‘treat’ food would be fruit and buts and dates, and the cake, clothes tended to come out of ‘American parcels’ and were kept for mass. Country people went to town on December 8th to do their shopping. The candle burning in the window (lit by the youngest in the house) might be the only thing that might prick her memory. ‘Santy ’ presents were likely to be humble, and midnight mass much more central. The treats were having visitors around, unusual food, and things being more sociable.

Vissi · 11/11/2024 23:31

TheYearOfSmallThings · 11/11/2024 23:28

Get her a Christmas Ireland's Own, an Old Moore's Almanac, a box of Black Magic, and get someone to smoke a Romeo Y Julieta in the background mixed with the smell of ham in a pressure cooker.

That would have been about a million times more sophisticated than my mother’s childhood Christmases! More like someone coughing up a lung on Woodbines and necking Powers! Agree with Ireland’s Own and the smell of damp ham.