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The Autumnal Christmas Chronicles Preamble thread

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RainbowZebraWarrior · 26/08/2024 10:22

Hi, and welcome to the Nigel Slater appreciation society Christmas Chronicles Premable thread.

The thread will start proper in late October where we begin our annual journey of reading the Christmas Chronicles in real time. It is a cosy, heartwarming event that one can dip in and out of as life allows. Think flickering candles, woodsmoke, delicious recipes, the odd home made tipple, and bucket loads of touching Nigel-esque anecdotes. It is a veritable Hyyge of a thread.

This thread is to see us through until that time. You will find me, like a squirell, checking on my store of candles at the back of the cupboard.

It's also worth noting that Nigel's new book; A Thousand Feasts is out on 26th September. (with a deliciously Autumnal cover)

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Taytocrisps · 21/09/2024 13:12

@MontyVerdi Dunnes Stores is definitely NVN. But if you call it Dunnez, it sounds a lot posher 😀.

UnimaginableWindBird · 21/09/2024 13:22

@MontyVerdi @Taytocrisps I am also Irish. I am hoping that this means this autumn thread will be positive about traditional Halloween things, and that there will be a lot of barmbrack.

Greaterthanthesumoftheparts · 21/09/2024 13:29

@UnimaginableWindBird oh my word that looks amazing!!! Enjoy. I bought some autumnal flowers in the supermarket and there were a couple of bits of spare foliage so here are the pumpkins on the table, which I’ve managed to find time to lay. Also some pictures of venison in the slow cooker, red cabbage underway and creamy mushrooms. Unfortunately I didn’t forage mine and almost needed a new mortgage, they’re so expensive @IngenTing must be saving a fortune with all that foraging.

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RainbowZebraWarrior · 21/09/2024 13:37

What a stunning place @UnimaginableWindBird

How lovely to have so many Irish posters. I'm all for Halloween and very interested to hear of any traditions; Irish or otherwise. I'm of Welsh heritage myself, and whilst I've never made brambrack, I do regularly bake a bara brith which, on the surface, seem very similar with the fruit being soaked in tea or alcohol. I love the idea that a charm is hidden in barmbrack, which I guess is like the sixpence in the Christmas pudding.

Very happy to join in with any Halloween festivities. We always decorate, and Trick or Treat, but sharing of Halloween foods and folklore would make it even more magical.

(Halloween is my DDs favourite time of year. She's Autistic and gets overwhelmed by Christmas festivities, so I'm all for embracing anything that helps her enjoy her favourite celebration)

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MontyVerdi · 21/09/2024 13:42

UnimaginableWindBird · 21/09/2024 13:22

@MontyVerdi @Taytocrisps I am also Irish. I am hoping that this means this autumn thread will be positive about traditional Halloween things, and that there will be a lot of barmbrack.

I think barmbrack would be very Nigel indeed - very comforting. Halloween marks the end of Autumn in the Celtic calendar and the start of winter - it's a real transition phase and I treat it as such rather than the trick or treat phenomenon.

It also gets very dark where I live in Scotland - light disappearing slowly at 2.30 and a sea fog often descends. A local writer George MacDonald was the father of fantasy fiction, influencing Lewis Carroll, Tolkein and CS Lewis - you can see how he might have been informed by the area.

MontyVerdi · 21/09/2024 13:45

Just a beautiful table @Greaterthanthesumoftheparts ❤️ what a delicious autumnal feast.

Rainbow My great, great grandmother was Welsh from Holyhead and I thought just now of Bara Brith and Welsh cakes too. I'm sure she made them.

Autumnspices · 21/09/2024 14:04

I’m in Paris this weekend and Autumn is slowly happening, plenty of conkers on the ground in the jarden des Tuileries, although the weather is lovely and warm today

Bubblesbythesea · 21/09/2024 14:22

@Greaterthanthesumoftheparts what a lovely table, and the food looks delicious - sharing a meal with friends is one of life’s greatest pleasures. Enjoy!

Taytocrisps · 21/09/2024 14:32

We celebrated Hallowe'en with gusto when I was a child. I must admit, I was a bit taken aback at the sneeriness about Hallowe'en I have encountered on MN over the years and I was also rather amused to see it described as a tacky American tradition.

In the days leading up to Hallowe'en, we would do Hallowe'en arts and crafts at school - we might make a witch's hat or a cat or paint a Hallowe'en picture to hang in our window at home. We made a turnip lantern once but it took forever - turnips are really hard to carve. We learnt about Hallowe'en traditions at school. We'd also learn Irish words associated with Hallowe'en - Samhain obviously but also words like taibhse (ghost), tine cnámh (bonfire) and cailleach (witch).

We dressed up for Hallowe'en but they didn't sell costumes in the shops at that stage, so we made them ourselves. They were very simple costumes. We might dress up as a witch, using the hat we made at school and borrowing a broom from the kitchen. Or we'd make a ghost costume by cutting eye holes out of a sheet don't tell Mam or she'll kill us. My brother was usually a farmer (he'd borrow Dad's big boots) or a coalman (he'd rub coal all over his face). In later years, plastic face masks appeared in the shops.

The shops had very impressive fruit displays at Hallowe'en and Mam always bought extra fruit, along with monkey nuts and mixed nuts and a coconut. There were some unusual things we didn't see the rest of the year, like wine apples and toffee apples. I reckon I was in my thirties before I realized that wine apples and pomegranates were the same fruit.

On the day itself, we'd be soooo excited. If we were at school that day, we'd spend ages discussing what costumes we planned to wear, even though 95% of the girls were dressing up as witches. Mam always cooked colcannon at Hallowe'en - potato mashed with kale and onion. She'd wrap up coins in tin foil and hide them in the colcannon. As soon as it got dark, we'd get changed into our costumes and head outside. The air would be very smoky from bonfires and there would be fireworks whizzing around everywhere. We'd knock at doors and say, "Please help the Hallowe'en party". We'd get monkey nuts and the occasional mandarin or a small apple. The local shopkeeper gave us a free tenpenny bag of sweets.

When we came home, we'd eat some of the monkey nuts and fruit and sweets (from the shop) and then we'd play party games. Dad would hang apples from the top of the door with a shoelace or length of wool. He'd put some coins into slits in the apple. We had to put our hands behind our backs and try to extract the coins with our teeth. We also had a go at bobbing for apples. Dad would put two or three apples into a bowl of water and we had to try and take a bite out of one. Your face and hair would get wet but sure, that was all part of the fun. There was also a game that involved putting a mound of flour on a plate, with a grape in the middle. Everyone would take turns at cutting off a 'slice' of flour, working their way in from the edges. Eventually the grape would fall off and the person responsible would get their face dunked in the remaining flour. There was another game called Long John Silver but I'm a a bit hazy on the details. You'd be blindfolded and you'd be told you were being taken to meet a pirate called Long John Silver. You'd be told to have a feel of his wooden leg (a sweeping brush) and his lost eye (a grape) etc. As a small kid, you'd be nearly believing there was an actual pirate in the room.

We'd eat some of the mixed nuts. Dad would try breaking them with a hammer but they'd fly all over the room and we'd find some of them weeks later, when we'd be doing the big Christmas clean up. We'd drink some of the coconut milk but it was nowhere near as nice as we'd been led to believe by eating Bounty bars. We'd also have slices of barm brack with butter and there would be great excitement about who'd get the ring. Eventually bedtime would roll around and we'd reluctantly toddle off to bed.

MontyVerdi · 21/09/2024 14:47

I don't think my childhood Halloween was quite as much fun as yours but I remember a lot of what you say.

Collecting lots of coppers, monkey nuts, mandarins and the occasional penny sweet. No pumpkins at all. Barmbrack. Back then peat fires 🔥

Raiding my mother's makeup for green witchy eyeshadow.

Two weeks off school (or was it just one?)

UnimaginableWindBird · 21/09/2024 15:06

I was often a vampire. I feel that a lot of costumes involved the creative use of bin bags, or maybe that was just a practical touch given the virtual certainty of rain at that time of year..

Taytocrisps · 21/09/2024 15:46

Ha! I'd forgotten about bin bags.

IClaudine · 21/09/2024 16:49

@Taytocrisps what a lovely post. It made me very nostalgic for my 70s childhood Halloweens. My best friend and I spent days preparing and making various things. The swedes were a bugger to carve!

LillianGish · 21/09/2024 17:14

An autumn shot at last in the grounds of the Chateau de Fontainebleau - still warm today, but rain forecast from tomorrow. Glad to know you are home safe and sound @Bimblesalong - thanks for the Edmund de Waal Insta tip, I now have lots of lovely posts popping up in my feed.

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Bimblesalong · 21/09/2024 17:28

That’s a lovely photo - it’s been a while since I was there.
you might also enjoy the account “princeletdrift”. The chap now lives in the country and is known for careful under restoration. If you scroll back to at least a year, you’ll see the beautiful property he occupied in Princelet Street, Spitalfields.

huge thunderstorms here in the uk and reports of a tornado in Aldershot. Definitely a day for lighting a lovely scented candle and sitting in with a mug of tea.

MistyMoonlight · 21/09/2024 17:50

The sun has decided to come out here, after I've been out all day in the rain sorting out new fencing in the fields... I am soaked through to the bone! None of the promised thunder though. A hot shower needed, and then a mug of tea, seasonal smelly candle and cwtch with the dog I think. I am hoping with less to do next year I'll be able to be organised and have more time to make some of these lovely soups I'm seeing on here

Bubblesbythesea · 21/09/2024 18:22

I did enjoy reading about your Halloween celebrations @Taytocrisps, some lovely memories of your childhood. I don’t remember anything happening at Halloween when I was a child living in a small town on the Yorkshire north east coast. But what we did look forward to was 4th November, the night before bonfire night - Mischief Night - when we were allowed to go out after dark and get up to mischief! This consisted of knocking on doors and running away, smearing treacle on doorknobs, and taking garden gates off their hinges and swapping them with a neighbour’s gate. This we considered the height of naughtiness, and was (mostly) tolerated by the grownups on that one night. It doesn’t happen any more, it’s been taken over by Halloween and ‘trick or treat’. We made turnip lanterns every year for Bonfire Night, with a grownup’s help to carve out a face, the turnip was so tough. Bonfire Night was the time for roast potatoes baked in the bonfire, usually half charred, half raw, but delicious, and sticky Yorkshire Parkin and maybe a toffee apple if we were lucky. Catherine wheels whizzed on a wooden post, Roman candles lit up the garden, and sparklers were waved around excitedly - happy days!

Taytocrisps · 21/09/2024 19:05

I put in a solid three hours in the garden this afternoon and it looks a lot better. There's something nice about putting the garden to bed for the winter. It was perfect gardening weather - overcast but warm. Very comfortable for working outdoors. I was going to reward myself with a lovely Thai take away but it's closed today. So I'll have to cook after all. I stopped for a quick cuppa and then I'll put away my tools and peel some spuds. I've some pork steak with stuffing which I'll bung in the oven.

Next weekend I'll plant some daffodils and tulips in tubs. Every spring I regret not planting them and I say, right, this autumn I'm definitely planting some bulbs. My neighbours are out walking their dogs at present and the tree opposite my house has some yellowy brown leaves and it's all looking rather autumnal. My neighbour has a lovely navy gilet - is gilet envy a thing?

RainbowZebraWarrior · 21/09/2024 20:03

Gosh, how many lovely posts and photos have there been lately? I don't know where to start. I keep wanting to thank and reply to each and every one of them. This has been a wonderful extension of the main CC threads.

@Taytocrisps loved your account of Halloween's gone by. I was another with a turnip lantern (NE England, here) Many folk on MN have never heard of such a thing. I carved one a couple of years ago to show my DD what it was like in the 'Olden Days' my goodness, it hurt as much as I remembered. I have a Pinterest account with pics of the late 70s / early 80s cardboard black and orange witches hats that we used to wear with our bin bag dresses. Can't believe we used to be let loose outside with a candle in them at the age of about 8 or 9. The smell of burning turnip / swede was The scent of Halloween from my childhood. (No posh scented candles back then)

Very cloudy here, so no chance of seeing any celestial activity tonight. I've lit the stove to warm the house, and put a new crochet blanket down for Mr Darcy (our cat) He seems most pleased with my efforts. (I am his slave after all) Autumn is most definitely here.

Here he is, snoring away. Apparently, it is bed time already.

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narniabusiness · 21/09/2024 22:24

What a wonderful bedtime read today’s posts have been. I loved reading your Halloween reminiscences. I hadn’t realised how important it was in Ireland. Perhaps it came too close to bonfire night in England as many of the food traditions of soup and baked potatoes and sticky gingerbread are more associated with that celebration in my mind. I do recall bobbing for apples and making a mix of supermarket and homemade costumes with our kids when they were young. Plenty of ghosts made from sheets and making a mummy by wrapping the child in lots of toilet roll bandages.

Confusedmeanderings · 22/09/2024 02:31

I've been enjoying reading all the Halloween reminiscences. It reminded me of the impact one particular Halloween party in the late sixties had on the folklore of our tiny village. You see, one year my Mum decided to host a Halloween party for the children in the village. It was a tiny village, more of a hamlet really, so it wasn't a large affair. We did the apple bobbing, carving lanterns, trying to eat a sweet buried in a plate of flour without using your hands ..... we were having a wonderful time! Mum loved story telling and she often made up her own stories. She settled us down and made up a story about the witch of W.....L Lane, who stole lambs from the fields in spring and hung their tails on a tree, which is why you see catkins in trees in the Spring. I know the witch got her comeuppance in the end, but I don't remember how! Anyway, we were all suitably enthralled and enjoyably spooked. Fast forward about 50 years and I was reading the village newsletter of my former home. It contained a very interesting article about the myths and legends of the local area, including a mention of the witch of W......L Lane stealing lambs. Mum's story has taken on a life of it's own and has become local history! I debated writing my own article revealing the origin of the so called legend, but decided to let the story continue to evolve. Mum would have been tickled pink!

Greaterthanthesumoftheparts · 22/09/2024 07:24

@Confusedmeanderings thats brilliant, your mum is a legend. DS is 6 and has just started to talk about trick or treating this year. We live in a village and I was surprised last year at the effort some people go to here. I’ll try to get pictures this year if I can. Going to have to start thinking about costumes…

HannahDefoesTrenchcoat · 22/09/2024 07:27

EternallyDelighted · 21/09/2024 06:59

Glad you're safely home @Bimblesalong

I got woken at 5 by another massive thunderstorm and haven't been able to get back to sleep but I did find this interview with Nigel in The Times
Nigel Slater: ‘I love food. We need to eat better, but less’

https://www.thetimes.com/article/41aea595-5c38-4e2d-94db-5ff1efcd82da?shareToken=d48b7ed4aa2f8ac27877408dc9bf1aee

Loved this. Thanks for sharing it.

IClaudine · 22/09/2024 07:54

That is a lovely article. Thank you for the share token @EternallyDelighted

MistyMoonlight · 22/09/2024 07:59

That was a lovely article! I haven't read any of his books, and realise that this thread is based off one of them... Could I have the name again please? I have looked back through the thread, but can't see the wood for the trees at the minute so it's probably staring me in the face but I've missed it... Apologies. Tempted to get his new one and Toast too