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Budgeting - how!

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HarkTheHeraldAngels · 23/07/2024 16:33

Friendly replies only please! I really don't want arguing or boasting over how much everyone spends on Christmas presents or Christmas in general but...

How do you budget for Christmas? Do you look at what you take home after bills etc and work it out from there or do you pick a number you feel is realistic and save/look for bargains under that.

I usually budget for gifts but never sit down and work out what I can spend on everything else but this year it is becoming a necessity that this is done. I'm talking the food, decorations, days out etc.

Thank you!

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PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 25/07/2024 08:56

I save all points and use at Christmas. Morrisons and sainsburys mainly. Makes a big dent in the food shop.
I buy presents all year round when I see them (make sure you size up pj’s etc!) including January sales when they sell off Christmas stuff. If it was Christmas tomorrow I could give all 3 of my DS’s presents.
charity shops / Vinted.
and knowing when enough is enough!

Autumnbees · 25/07/2024 09:00

I also wrote in my notes last Christmas that my in laws seemed to prefer size over quality when it came to gifts.

Big cheaper thing - lots of joy & thank yous
Tiny expensive well thought out thing - meh

Weird isn’t it. But at least I know for this year!!

eryuod · 26/07/2024 14:39

When I had a family my mum said to me to open a Christmas savings account and put a set amount each month into it. At the time £50 was what we chose, so £600 by December for presents and food. As our children have gotten older our budget has incrementally increased, based on how much I know I want to buy the kids, the kind of food we want, day trips, so the budget is bigger now (but so is our income).

ChristmasIsComing2024 · 26/07/2024 15:12

I tend to budget as I go so the money that I had this month went towards a gift for my partner for our anniversary and some smaller gifts for my son for his birthday plus a Parkdean holiday later in the year. I’ve also picked up a few gifts for my dad from charity shops as he will be 60 this year and I’m planning to get him 60 gifts for his birthday 🤗 I’ve also got party supplies for son’s birthday party and booked a family day out for us on his actual birthday and after all that there wasn’t any money left to save for Christmas or anything else 🤷‍♀️

Next month I will be buying my sons main birthday gift, cake and paying off his party and that will be his birthday all sorted other than the party food which will probably come out of Septembers money.
I’ll probably book a day out or 2 and a couple of meals out depending on how much is left as well.
There’s probably more that I can’t think of right now but the basic idea is that there will be nothing left to save for Christmas next month either 🙈

September will be party food if it didn’t come out of last months budget then I’ll hopefully be able to save about £200 towards our little holiday for food and days out. I owe my dad some money and I’m hoping that I can give him £100 back this month 🤞 Then I can probably afford to spend/save £100-£200 on Christmas presents/activities but it all depends on what is needed in September really.

October will be pretty much the same as September but some of the possible Christmas money will be going towards my mum’s birthday presents and the party food money will be Halloween costume and activities for my little boy.

November will be for buying my dads birthday gifts and whatever is left over and isn’t needed for anything else will be for Christmas gifts and activities.

December will be for any more Christmas gifts that I need to get but it will hopefully be mostly all done by then so mainly for days out and food (Toby Carvery on Christmas Eve and a takeaway on Boxing Day or the other way around if my partner is working one of them and a buffet at home on Christmas Day). I might get some of my partners birthday presents from his month too if I can afford to 🤔

Theothername · 31/07/2024 11:27

I found that looking at what we do spend rather than thinking about what we should spend, was more helpful and realistic. It’s very easy (at least for me) to gaslight myself about money so the more cold, hard facts the better.

Also have a think about when and why you spend money. Companies work really hard to pressure us to spend and this ramps up exponentially at Christmas. When your good intentions fly out the window, stop and consider what’s going on in the moment.

eg I noticed last year that grocery shopping was a problem for me, because I’d see something lovely in the homewares aisle and initially I’d say “oh that’s nice, but no..not in the budget this year” but then I’d see it still sitting there, week after week and it would start to feel like each sensible “no” was a separate no, and after I’d been good so many times it was time for a treat, and then it ends up in the trolley!

And that was more likely to happen if I was stressed and unconsciously reaching for a quick dopamine hit, or when I’d just been hit by a couple of unforeseen expenses (new school shoes) that knocked my careful budgeting and had a “what will one more thing matter” moment. Or was buying fun stuff like sweets and biscuits.

It’s just a small example but when you pay attention to what’s happening when you spend foolishly, it’s much more helpful than beating yourself up for lack of willpower. Because budgeting is more about behaviour than it is about intention. I have adopted a policy of reviewing my shopping trolley and trying to put something back before I head to the checkout. That saved me loads - it also can soften a “no”, to a “maybe next week”

The worst year for me, was the one where I set a strict, unrealistic budget, I couldn’t stick to. I’ve had some really frugal years since but because I understood where the pressure points were, I could put plans in place to avoid them (eg organising lots of free and cheap activities for the dc to avoid succumbing to guilt that they were missing out)

In terms of savings, I do a mix of saving weekly (my revolut account lets me create separate funds for different things and I save for holidays and Christmas year round). In Ireland we pay a deposit on plastic bottles which is refunded when you recycle and I pop that in a little savings tin in my car.

I keep a running list of gift suggestions year round, and jot ideas for gifts when I think of them. It often allows me pick up a bargain earlier in the year. But it also means I usually have a couple of ideas so I don’t panic buy at the last minute and spend more than I’d have liked.

Budgeting time at Christmas is important too because we often end up paying more for things if we’re rushed, or stressed - extra fuel, parking costs, grabbing a takeaway all add up too. Everything takes longer in December and there’s always more to do. Anything you can do ahead of time (or not at all) helps too.

BiddyPop · 31/07/2024 12:16

I have an excel spreadsheet as I have a lot to buy for, tend to buy when I see things they'd love during the year if possible, and also make things sometimes. There is a budget and a spent line in that for each person.

I have a separate budget for my actual spending normally, and I guesstimate amounts for travel, socialising, events, winter clothes, gifts, extra food etc as part of looking at my October-Dec months.

The gifts one has a new sheet per year so I can remember what I bought before (have given someone the same thing years 1& 3 in the past and they remembered! Oops), and how much I actually spent. While I have an archives doc for the regular budget one to save what I actually spent on a yearly basis.

I started small, so while it looks complicated, it's actually only a very small amount of updating and adding new worksheets when necessary.

In terms of saving for that budget, I have always put money from my paycheque into the credit union at work as I get paid - which I use for holidays and Christmas. Even when on rubbish money, I put away a small amount and as I got pay rises, I let myself a couple to enjoy and then increased the credit union as I was managing fine on what I had before - trying to avoid lifestyle creep and frittering away the extra €5 a fortnight on an extra coffee, when €130 saved in a year felt like a lot more to use and enjoy.

2AND2GC · 06/08/2024 20:23

Here's my approach:

  1. WAY in advance (so as to take the emotion out of it and avoid any logistical cock-ups) have conversations with everyone to suggest and agree that you're ditching present exchanging with/ for everyone except your own husband and kids.
  1. Have the conversation with your husband that you're just going to exchange minimal, token gifts. Eg he buys you a posh bottle of bubble bath that you would never buy for yourself and some nice chocolate. You buy him a special bottle of whisky and some nice chocolate. Work out a budget for this, eg £50 in total.
  1. Open a special, dedicated account for Christmas Savings. Eg a Monzo current account if you haven't already got one.
  1. Decide how much you are going to spend per child on three presents each for under the tree and how much for the stocking. Eg £200 per child x 2 children = £400
  1. Allow extra £ for Christmas food and a few treats (eg family meal out at some point over the Christmas period?) and for the tree/ replacing any decorative bits.
  1. Add in whatever you need for cards and postage. Stick a note in this year's cards forewarning everyone that you are going to stop doing Christmas cards next year and will make a charitable donation instead.
  1. Tot all this up. That's your total sum. That's what you need to save between now and Christmas so divide it between the remaining months.
  1. Also divide the total sum between 12 and as soon as Christmas is over (eg 27 December 2024 payday) start saving for Christmas 2025.

Honestly, honestly recommend this approach. I did this years ago and can't tell you the peace that it brings.

Good wishes to you 🎄

Sprogonthetyne · 06/08/2024 20:47

I have a rough budget for each person, add it up, then save 1/12 of the total each month. TBH, it's no were near the maximum I could afford, it's more
the maximum I want my kids to be use to receiving.

caringcarer · 06/08/2024 21:18

I saved my TopCashBack money until Xmas and get about £250-£300 each year. If I see something through the year I know someone will love I pick it up if it's a good price. My DC are adults now but still like their stockings. I look out for offers buy one and get one half price on stuff like toiletries I know my 2 d's like. I start buying food shopping in October and buy a couple of things each week with my shopping. I buy Xmas cards, wrapping paper and crackers after Xmas in the sales and put away for the following year. I only buy things I know people will like. If I'm not sure I don't get it. I give my DC a budget and ask them what they want. Sometimes they send me a link. My DD lets me know what to get DGC but it's usually a zoo membership or similar and one toy gift eg Lego. I never go over my budget. I think it's very important to stick to what you can afford. I'd never get into debt over Xmas. When my DC were small I often bought them second hand gifts in good condition. I'd buy some Duplo sets and run them through the dishwasher and they were as new, just not always in a box. Small DC don't care.

StopInhalingRevels · 06/08/2024 22:33

I've used the bargain thread religiously for years.

Definitely money saved there. With £11 monster truck bargains and the like, I tend to pick up a couple of things a month, and they have filled the bulk of the presents for each DC. I know which child is essentially guaranteed to like each thing, and probably only purchase 10% of the bargains listed, but it soon mounts up.

Then in December, they get something off their list to Father Christmas bought as well.

I'd done all three stockings, fancy adverts, plus DH stocking, plus around 10 great presents for each of 3DC (bar the Father Christmas one) for £198 thanks to the thread.

I also make a note of what was successful and not so much. And having spent years being poncetastic and an absolute Christmas obsessive who made ten elaborate sides to accompany Christmas dinner, fancy starters, three show stopper desserts (and spent all day hovering in the kitchen because of it) I decided one year, sod it, I'm doing a much more basic version. We had peas, broccoli, cauli cheese, parsnips, stuffing, pigs in blankets and that was it for the sides. Delicious roasties and excellent meat and gravy, and it was probably the nicest Christmas dinner we'd ever had. Without all the fuss and extra ingredients it rendered the meal a third of the previous cost.

The vastly cheaper dinner and the need to only really buy one more present for each child by December, means we don't really have to save up through the year.

caringcarer · 06/08/2024 23:11

StopInhalingRevels · 06/08/2024 22:33

I've used the bargain thread religiously for years.

Definitely money saved there. With £11 monster truck bargains and the like, I tend to pick up a couple of things a month, and they have filled the bulk of the presents for each DC. I know which child is essentially guaranteed to like each thing, and probably only purchase 10% of the bargains listed, but it soon mounts up.

Then in December, they get something off their list to Father Christmas bought as well.

I'd done all three stockings, fancy adverts, plus DH stocking, plus around 10 great presents for each of 3DC (bar the Father Christmas one) for £198 thanks to the thread.

I also make a note of what was successful and not so much. And having spent years being poncetastic and an absolute Christmas obsessive who made ten elaborate sides to accompany Christmas dinner, fancy starters, three show stopper desserts (and spent all day hovering in the kitchen because of it) I decided one year, sod it, I'm doing a much more basic version. We had peas, broccoli, cauli cheese, parsnips, stuffing, pigs in blankets and that was it for the sides. Delicious roasties and excellent meat and gravy, and it was probably the nicest Christmas dinner we'd ever had. Without all the fuss and extra ingredients it rendered the meal a third of the previous cost.

The vastly cheaper dinner and the need to only really buy one more present for each child by December, means we don't really have to save up through the year.

Wait until your DC grow up and invite you to Xmas dinner it is heaven not having to cook. I do an early Xmas each year for all DC and DGC together. I usually do that the weekend of the second week of December and treat DGC over the weekend to visit Santa, painting a Xmas baubles, then walking around looking at the lights near out home and hot chocolate with squirty cream and with little marshmallows and chocolate powder on top. Then I just relax for the 2 week run up to Xmas. Very different from when my DC were little.

BiddyPop · 07/08/2024 12:27

Another useful way to save for the food shopping (both the big meal and seasonal goodies, and seasonal bargains on items you use anyway to stock up on for the coming months), is to use your favoured supermarket's savings scheme.

Mine still does €2 stamps, and the full book requires €98 from me and they give the final one if you fill the book. But you can spend what you've saved anytime. So when I have spare change during the year, I add a few stamps and aim to have 2 books for the big Christmas shop. Makes a big difference and I hardly notice it during the year.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 09/08/2024 22:05

Absolutely work out what you don’t need.I have a hard backed book that I write notes in.
Foods I will buy especially if I forget where I bought things.
Foods I definitely don’t need .Not making a Christmas cake this year, only I eat it and last year it didn’t get finished.

If I see something that I can tick off my list then I buy it and put it somewhere safe
Aim to have it done by December.

Plan and pay for days out in good time

Sainsbury’s Nectar Points pay for the Big Shop

housethatbuiltme · 24/08/2024 15:43

I start buying early to spread the cost, buying in sales and off Ebay/Vinted etc...

Spend the same every year but our income doesn't really change hugely and when it has changed things like meals out etc... have gone before the xmas budget would get effected.

My budget is £150 per child and then its £50 for the pantomime and our xmas dinner is very cheap compared to others as we don't eat meat so the main stuff only costs about £30. Presents for others comes under £100 all in probably so the budget is about £600 spent over 5 or 6 months.

MzPixie · 29/08/2024 14:36

So come October I start planning for Christmas budget but it is only Myself and husband
We don't buy presents for family or friends we budget for a meal out and a few small treats we wouldn't usually indulge in like a Costa gift card and use it leading up to Christmas food wise over Christmas probably spend £80 including biscuits chocolate etc but this year were going away for Christmas as I'm the cook haha

YousayPassataISaypeastta · 30/08/2024 09:06

We just put money aside for Xmas each year every month on payday. Each pay day all money gets assigned somewhere, saving here, Xmas there, and so on.
When we were poor it was about 2 per week! Topped up with freecyle stuff fir the children and now we can put away a lot more.
Sometimes we don't spend it all sometimes go over what we have saved but of course having at least 800 saved is wonderful to break the back of the expense.
Our biggest expenses are days out.
It also means because it's rolling and always there we can pull on it for sales and days out to buy in say August.
Obviously we save what's left after bills, childrens stuff eg school expenses /clubs/ holidays / car work money and so on.

Op even if you put 20 away a month it's something.

YousayPassataISaypeastta · 30/08/2024 09:21

@HarkTheHeraldAngels

Martin Lewis does enveloped system.
Just add up all your bills what's left, what do you need? Eg petrol for the month?
How much? Divide by 4.
Food shop
Whatever is actually left look at what you what to save for.
Usually actual savings.
Car stuff
Holidays
Children's school expenses
Children activities, classes

Christmas.

As I said in the early days we saved a few pounds a week and put it into actual tins in real life then actual envelopes. It was a wonderful feeling to have money for anything we wanted on a weekend knowing That wasn't going to rob food money or leave us short for petrol. That was soley for fun stuff.
It wasn't much but it's grown over the years.

Once you have got that habit of the envelope system you will assign money specifically everywhere each month so nothing is left to waste or fritter.

MrsSunshine2b · 03/09/2024 16:18

I worked out how much I spend on special occasions throughout the year, including a family holidays, mothers/father day, birthdays, Christmas, Valentines, anniversary etc., and divided it up by 12 and came up with £500 per month which goes into a separate account and I withdraw money when it's coming up to those occasions.

I keep track of what money is going where on a spreadsheet and have a separate tab where I track what's been bought and still needed for Christmas.

BellaBobbins · 03/09/2024 16:40

We save £100 a month towards Christmas, so have £1100 to spend on presents, days out, food etc. Whatever we don't spend we put into next year's pot.

I shop throughout the year for DD's stocking - a strict "NO TAT" rule, so her stocking is all stuff I know she will use (book, socks, felt tips, hair bobbles).

DH and I do a stocking each, and again, it's things we will use, socks, toiletries, fancy chocolate.

We don't go overboard with food - we'll buy a tun of quality street, a few boxes of mince pies, a few treats, but nothing hugely out of the ordinary. Christmas Dinner is just a slightly fancier roast dinner.

A chunk of our budget is spent on activities, like santa visits, trips to London, panto etc

I save up supermarket and loyalty points, and use them for stocking fillers - even £10 in superdrug makes a difference, it's £10 I don't need to spend out of our budget.

So far this year, we have £90 of Asda Pounds, £160 Nectar Points so our food shop is paid for.

Generally we spend around £500 on presents, DD probably £200. Making a note of everything this year will help you plan for Christmas 2025.

BellaBobbins · 03/09/2024 16:41

A tin of quality street! Not a tun 😁

Autumn1990 · 03/09/2024 17:30

I start buying/planning in August.
i have an app that you can put present ideas in, then mark when bought with price (then when wrapped as well because that usually goes pear shaped at the end)
I don’t buy the children’s main presents until December incase they change their minds
I will start buying long life Christmas food soon, so I will have the tin of quality street, a couple of tins of biscuits, fancy crisps etc. these never all get eaten over Christmas but I like some to last into January as otherwise it feels like a long miserable month.
My mother also has a really old fill your freezer for Christmas booklet I think it was a mary berry one, and you start making in September and putting in the freezer and then it you’ve got your meals for Christmas. So I’ll do that as well

MrsSunshine2b · 03/09/2024 20:11

Autumn1990 · 03/09/2024 17:30

I start buying/planning in August.
i have an app that you can put present ideas in, then mark when bought with price (then when wrapped as well because that usually goes pear shaped at the end)
I don’t buy the children’s main presents until December incase they change their minds
I will start buying long life Christmas food soon, so I will have the tin of quality street, a couple of tins of biscuits, fancy crisps etc. these never all get eaten over Christmas but I like some to last into January as otherwise it feels like a long miserable month.
My mother also has a really old fill your freezer for Christmas booklet I think it was a mary berry one, and you start making in September and putting in the freezer and then it you’ve got your meals for Christmas. So I’ll do that as well

I love that idea! I've just Googled the book but a used copy is selling on Amazon for £32, which doesn't help with budgeting much.

BiddyPop · 04/09/2024 08:26

@MrsSunshine2b
Usually Christmas magazines have sections on food to pre prepare and freeze for Christmas Day. I tend to do things like sausage meat (to squeeze onto pre-rolled puff pastry for HM sausage rolls), mince pies, cookie dough (to cook quickly without the mess of making the dough), pie crusts and crumble mix (to make pies or crumbles easily), etc. I usually also have some fruit from summer like rhubarb and I try to have some of that already stewed to make a quick crumble.

The other thing to think about is family dinners in the really busy weeks of December. So favourites like a shepherds pie - make 2 in September/October and freeze 1 for December. Lasagna, spaghetti Bol, chilli, curries, etc. Do extra portions of lovely veg that will freeze (I do roasted Mediterranean veggies and serve as a side dish or thrown into tomato sauce (and possibly some bacon or chicken) with pasta etc).

moppety · 04/09/2024 08:36

I use digital envelope budgeting, so I already have a sizeable chunk of money in the Christmas gift 'envelope' and same in the Christmas events and Christmas food ones. I do this for all predictable expenses in a year. Every month money is allocated to the different envelopes.

Sockmate123 · 04/09/2024 09:06

We save €200 euro per month and at end of Oct we do Santa shop, tbh once that's done I relax because once kids happy that's the main thing! Then with whatever is left we buy from mother/in laws/nieces/nephews etc
I do a collection from the class for the teachers, everyone throws in a tenner for that. Food wise I just assign an extra 200 in December for groceries. We book an experience or two, could be ice skating/Xmas market/Santa and pay that maybe in Oct. We do very little going in Oct/Nov so any disposable income in those months is used to book stuff for December.

Anything left over then is used for gifts for eachother. I worked out the 200 per month based on average of what we spent previous years.

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